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Senior Editor II

textual.ru & maps.rosreestr.ru

Hello. Please make bot don't touch that links.

textual.ru have broken WebCite archives, they deserve removing, not "fixing". Example: ru:Большая Копса, url, broken archive (пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ is not Russian, it's a trash). Also, this website is database extract, which is already archived, so its archivation is not needed also because of this reason.
maps.rosreestr.ru archives are useless. This website was offering an interactive map, archive services can't capture that functionality. Example: ru:Воль (приток Вычегды), archive.

Thanks. — Vort (talk) 21:14, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Vort - I can help some.

There are 7616 entries for textual.ru and only 16 are non-webcitation .. Since archive.is can capture textual.ru example it would make sense to try and convert if available and delete otherwise. This would for both the IABot database and enwiki.
There are 752 entries for maps.rosreestr.ru .. webrecorder.io can capture interactive JS content, but since the site is dead, too late. Existing archive.org captures don't work, and archive.is doesn't seem to have captures. Maybe delete these and blacklist the site. -- GreenC 01:53, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

This is done for enwiki and iabot database. Most of #1 converted to archive.org links, and #2 archives deleted. I can't help with links on ruwiki which is where the webcitation links originated. -- GreenC 12:42, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2018).

Administrator changes

Sro23

KaisaL • Ymblanter

Guideline and policy news

After a discussion at Meta, a new user group called "interface administrators" (formerly "technical administrator") has been created. Come the end of August, interface admins will be the only users able to edit site-wide JavaScript and CSS pages like MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css, or edit other user's personal JavaScript and CSS. The intention is to improve security and privacy by reducing the number of accounts which could be used to compromise the site or another user's account through malicious code. The new user group can be assigned and revoked by bureaucrats. Discussion is ongoing to establish details for implementing the group on the English Wikipedia.
Following a request for comment, the WP:SISTER style guideline now states that in the mainspace, interwiki links to Wikinews should only be made as per the external links guideline. This generally means that within the body of an article, you should not link to Wikinews about a particular event that is only a part of the larger topic. Wikinews links in "external links" sections can be used where helpful, but not automatically if an equivalent article from a reliable news outlet could be linked in the same manner.

Technical news

The WMF Anti-Harassment Tools team is seeking input on the second set of wireframes for the Special:Block redesign that will introduce partial blocks. The new functionality will allow you to block a user from editing a specific set of pages, pages in a category, a namespace, and for specific actions such as moving pages and uploading files.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:31, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

FYI

Jzsj editing education-related article, again.96.127.243.251 (talk) 22:44, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Not even close to an educational article.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:45, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Please identify who you are before I suspect you are socking.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:47, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Just an IP user. There is no requirement to identify oneself on Wikipedia.96.127.243.251 (talk) 22:50, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Your very first edit is to an AFD, that's a bit suspect.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:53, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

not really. I am an IP editor, and my IP resets at least once a month. Totally allowed and normal.96.127.243.251 (talk) 22:55, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Very well then. Carry on.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:56, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Back to that edit. You banned JZSJ from education article "broadly construed", IIRC. the edit above is to an article on an organization that operates a "Pre-School. Education and nutrition program for those under 6.[4]" and "After-school and skills classes, for children and young people, as well as skill training for women". Sounds like education to me.96.127.243.251 (talk) 22:59, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
It seems more like an article about a charity organization that has education in a small portion of it. I think that falls just outside of the scope of the ban. It's not on an educational subject itself.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:02, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Okey-dokey. FWIW, he's also been soliciting people to edit education articles from inside of the AfDs as well, but I imagine that is allowed too.96.127.243.251 (talk) 23:08, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Oops, proper diff. 96.127.243.251 (talk) 23:10, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

@Jzsj: Please don't do that. It could be seen as circumventing your ban.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:15, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

@Cyberpower678: Agreed. I can say what would improve the article but not go on to ask that someone make the change, is that the distinction? Like may I say that it would improve the article if certain citations were removed, or added, or a certain section removed, but not specifically ask that someone make the changes? I know that I should not ask specific editors to make changes for me but I'll include also making general requests that go beyond what needs to be done. Is that the distinction? The only thing I found was at WP:PROXYING: not "at the direction of a banned or blocked editor ... unless they are able to show that the changes are either verifiable or productive and they have independent reasons for making such edits." I've been wondering how far I should go in suggesting that they do this. Please advise, thanks! Jzsj (talk) 02:09, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

@Jzsj: I personally don't see issues with making requests to edit on your behalf, but others may take issue with it, and can land you back at ANI where someone will call for an indef of you. If the consensus is to actually indef you, I will be forced to block you, which I don't want to do. So I will advise against making general proxy edit requests, and stick to facts that can improve the article without explicitly requesting changes be done to it.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 13:46, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, sounds like good advice. I think that was the only time I asked for such help, and can leave off doing it in the future. Jzsj (talk) 15:02, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

@Jzsj:, why don't you try following advice and going by the community rules? It's very simple. Do not edit or request edits on education articles. Stay away from them. Above all, make an effort to show us all that you are willing to go by this rule, and the others like making articles on notable subjects, no promotion, use independent sources and so on. It's time to stop feigning ignorance and play by the community rules. You re at 25K or more edits, you know the rules very well by now. It really could not be any simpler. Stop trying to find a way around the simple rules that are laid down for us all, and for you in the case of your topic ban. This is pretty much all that every editor who complains about your actions is looking for. We want to see that you are willing to play by the rules, rather than try to circumvent or ignore them as you have in the past. 96.127.243.251 (talk) 07:02, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

This discussion shows that sourcing in Wikipedia is not a clear-cut issue. We need to tolerte discussion to get at the whole truth. Jzsj (talk) 10:35, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Your reply is just another version of "special rules for Jzsj", and more proof that you continue to ignore community consensus on notability and sourcing. You do not get special rules for your agenda-pushing.96.127.243.251 (talk) 18:23, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Jzsj ban and COI discussion

To what extent may I defend myself in this COI discussion, or does the ban forbid my defending myself at all here? Jzsj (talk) 22:53, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Jzsj, I personally think responding would be acceptable, but will leave Cyberpower to answer your question directly. For what it's worth I have responded in your defence. Primefac (talk) 23:00, 11 August 2018 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

What Primefac said.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:07, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

IAbot doesn't work for me on Chinese Wikipedia

Hi Cyberpower678,

I use IAbot to archive the references recently but when I check the Add archives to all non-dead references (Optional) box and click ANALYZE, it doesn't archive any links or modify the page. Take the article zh:她和他和她的澎湖灣 for example, the Run statistics shows:

Run statistics:
•Page title: 她和他和她的澎湖灣
•Run duration: 6.0596671104431 Seconds
•Page modified: No
•Links analyzed: 0
•Links rescued: 0
•Links tagged: 0
•Links archived: 0

This bug also occured on some of other Wikipedians. Here are the logs: User:dqwyy, User:Jyxyl9, User:Cohaf.

Regards,
dqwyy (talk) _{from zhwiki} 06:53, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't realize that there has been a thread on zh:Wikipedia:互助客栈/技术#IAB好像又有bug. --dqwyy (talk) _{from zhwiki} 07:20, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

@Dqwyy, Jyxyl9, and Cohaf: I believe I have identified the issue and it should be fixed in beta7.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 21:40, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Good job! Thank you very much. --dqwyy (talk) _{from zhwiki} 13:57, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Cydebot

I was issued a level one warning on closing of AfD by a not owned by you,Cydebot,could you explain what this means? secondly the claims made by your bots are not fully true.As I restored the deleted comments after I noticed that was not the way to go.Thank you .User:Ataavi Ataavi (talk) 13:13, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't own Cydebot. You should contact Cyde (talk · contribs)—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:18, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Timeframe for new jobs

Hi! Not sure where I should put this, so I'll put it here (and if I'm not putting this in the right spot, please point me in the right direction). I submitted a bot job in the early hours of 16 August (GMT -5). I noticed that, by going back through past job data, that some of the submissions were suspended by you (those were submitted a few spots before my place in line). The reason was that it was a "bot bug". Will this bug force my job to be suspended, or will my request go through without a problem? Thanks! Mandoli (talk) 15:40, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

All workers are currently suspended due to a critical bug in beta6. That means all queued jobs will sit there until the workers are unsuspended, which I will do when I have deployed the fix.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:42, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. That bot is amazing, regardless of status. Mandoli (talk) 15:48, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

DAV Public School Waidhan

sir I request to please donot remov DAV Public School Waidhan page from Wikipedia Bhanwar singh vaish (talk)Bhawar

IAbot in ruwiki

Hello. [1]? --Dima st bk (talk) 12:15, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

It's under investigation.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 13:40, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Bots Newsletter, August 2018

Bots Newsletter, August 2018

Greetings!

Here is the 6th issue of the Bots Newsletter. You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future newsletters by adding/removing your name from this list.

Highlights for this newsletter include:

ARBCOM

Nothing particular important happened. Those who care already know, those who don't know wouldn't care. The curious can dig ARBCOM archives themselves.

BAG

There were no changes in BAG membership since the last Bots Newsletter. Headbomb went from semi-active to active.
In the last 3 months, only 3 BAG members have closed requests - help is needed with the backlog.

BOTREQs and BRFAs

As of writing, we have...

24 active BOTREQs, please help if you can!
5 open BRFAs and 3 BRFAs in need of BAG attention (see live status).
54 approved bot tasks since the start of 2018. Of note, Community Tech bot 5 (the #10 Wish on the 2017 Community Survey) was approved to notify users concerning problematic images and files from Wikimedia Commons.

Also

If you're a bot operator that can help with Tidy/Linter error cleanup (see discussion, discussion), please file a BRFA!
8 inactive bots have been deflagged (see discussion, discussion, discussion).

Discussions

These are some of the discussions that happened / are still happening since the last Bots Newsletter. Many are stale, but some are still active.

Use of tags by bots – Exploring the use of a new 'bot' tag.
Mass page moves – Bot policy question/clarification about mass moves.
Creation of redirects – Bot policy question/clarification about the creation of redirects.
Guidance on disruptive use of semi–automated tools? – Related to meatbots (see also MOS discussion, which resulted in small addition to MOS:VAR).
Discussion concerning WP:BOTFLAG/WP:RC – A reminder that bots should use the bot flag when it makes sense to use it (see also VPT discussion and CREATEBOT update).
Out of curiosity... (to all bot operators) – BotPasswords vs OAuth usage amongst bot operators.
Introducing Toolhub – Toolhub is looking for feedback.

New things

{{Automated tools}}, a new template linking to user-activated tools and scripts has been created. It can be used in articles previews, and can be placed on any non-mainspace page/template (e.g. {{Draft article}}) to provide convenient links to editors.
AWB 5.10.0.0 is out, after nearly 20 months without updates. If you run an old version, you will be prompted to install the new version automatically. See the changelog for what's new. Note that the next version will require .NET Framework 4.5. Many thanks to Reedy and the AWB team.
BotWatch, "a listing of editors that have made >2 edits per minute [without] a bot flag", is being developed by SQL (see discussion).
Massive updates and improvements have been made to Citation bot in the past few months (see discussions, discussions, discussions). You can activate the bot here, amongst other methods.
HTML Tidy has been phased out (see Tech News #28).
{{Newbot}} has been reorganized a bit (diff). In particular, it links to previously approved BRFAs (see discussion).
Wikipedia:Bots#See also has been reorganized a bit (diff).
The bot dictionary has two new entries, context bot and context-sensitive edit.
The bot request header has been updated to include better guidance (see discussion).
The subcategories of Category:Wikipedia bot requests for approval have been sorted in a consistent manner to make past BRFAs easier to find.

Thank you! edited by: Headbomb 15:04, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

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Cyberbot I and admin stats

I've noticed the Cyberbot I has been updating admin stats again. Is it on a test run? It hasn't updated mine since June. — Maile (talk) 18:58, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Seems up to date this morning. — Maile (talk) 11:09, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Status of fiwiki integration to IABot

Hi! I'm just checking in what is the status for Finnish Wikipedia integration to IABot :)? Here is a link to old discussion from February for context. Tell me if you need anything! Best, --Olimar (talk) 16:42, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

@Olimar: Unfortunately, I completely forgot about fiwiki, as I have no Phabricator task for it. Can you create one with a link to the consensus discussion. You can file the request most easily by going to https://tools.wmflabs.org/iabot?page=reportbug. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:17, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot. Again.

Individual page analyses are working, but the jobs certainly aren't. Just take a look at this. Large backlog, completing jobs out of order (though that might be normal), and apparently half the wikis are disabled. I'm not sure, but the disabled wikis may be the problem. I can't enable anything, but an administrator can. Can you help? — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 18:49, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Please don't touch the runpages of wikis you don't work on. The runpages have no effect on the bot jobs. I'm still investigating the cause.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:26, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Issued improper warning

I was issued an improper level 1 warning for removing an AfD template. I closed a discussion that I started after reviewing policies that would allow the article to be kept. Any way to solve this? It also says I removed comments from others, but I didn't do that. Redditaddict6 9 15:29, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

No bot malfunction here. You removed the tag from an article with a still open AfD.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:28, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

http://blog.163.com website to be closed

I think the site (http://*.blog.163.com) should be marked as dead in advance so that the robot can archive the content. Although it is a blog source, there are still 328 articles (zhwiki) & 93 articles (enwiki) involve, archiving the web pages will help to verify and external links.

The website will go offline on November 30, 2018. Announcement: http://blog.163.com/bearer.do. --YFdyh000 (talk) 21:35, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Reported to the Wayback Devs.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:31, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikiwix

Do you see my last message : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Pmartin#19/07 ? Pmartin (talk) 16:40, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

No I did not. I was never pinged.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:57, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Could you add my talk page to Wikipedia:Facto Post mailing list? --Donald Trung (talk) 19:34, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Done—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 20:15, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. --Donald Trung (talk) 20:29, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Bot can't tell HTML apart from PDF?

So, IABot decided to do this on my test run on the Cantonese Wikipedia:

加咗存檔 https://www.webcitation.org/616llZVOw?url=http://www.fraserinstitute.org/ 落 http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/admin/books/chapterfiles/1EFW2006ch1Rev.pdf

(yue:Talk:香港)

Should it try to detect that the original URL is a PDF but the archive clearly isn't giving us a PDF, so the archive didn't manage to rescue the link? Deryck C. 17:11, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

No it can't actually detect that, especially with WebCite. That link is there because someone associated that URL with that archive somewhere else on Wikipedia. You can change the link info at https://tools.wmflabs.org/iabot/index.php?page=manageurlsingle&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fraserinstitute.ca%2Fadmin%2Fbooks%2Fchapterfiles%2F1EFW2006ch1Rev.pdf —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:15, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

When does IABot leave a talk page message?

Thanks. I've marked that link as dead and removed the wrong archive. Also, how does the bot decide whether to leave a talk page message? Deryck C. 14:07, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

@Deryck Chan: Generally if it adds/modifies an archive URL. However the verbose option in the configuration has the bot leaving a talk message all the time about every action it does.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 20:42, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh I see. This edit (without an accompanying talk page message) made me think IABot had some clever feature to tell that an act of rescue was of such high confidence that it doesn't ask for human review. Then I found out in this case "rescued" meant reformatting the citation but it still linked to the same archive page. Deryck C. 11:29, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

some problems

Hello, i deleted bn:ব্যবহারকারী:InternetArchiveBot for now and I want report some problems.

I'm having problem with https://tools.wmflabs.org/iabot When log in & select bnwiki, it shows me that i need to accept 'terms & service', when i click 'accept' it took me here to save preference and after selecting my preference when i click save, it took me here & shows a blank page. Currently i am unable to edit on bnwiki via this tool. Although i did a test edit in this wiki via this tool. I'm not sure what is the problem with bnwiki. Could you accept my account manually or do something?
I saw InternetArchiveBot did three test edit. I found two error. Firstly typo mistake. অকার্যকর-ইউআরএল=হাঁ (dead-url=yes) here হাঁ is wrong. it should be হ্যাঁ. Secondly bot didn't provide title. Instead of title bot added {title} as title.

--আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 20:57, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

@আফতাবুজ্জামান: Regarding the tool, you should go back and try again. I understand there is an issue with the preferences panel that causes a blank page to load, but I haven't enough information on reproducing the problem. Can you tell me what you did on the preferences page before clicking save? It would help a lot. Even though it loaded a blank page, you should still be able to use the tool now as long as the ToS page took you to the preferences page. For the second issue, I saw that as well, and thus stopped the bot as I work on beta9.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 21:49, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

I clicked 'Run Bot → Fix a single page' then accept then save then this. Maybe this is problem with my username, my username doesn't have latin character. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 22:06, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

It shouldn't be. Usernames are just for the frontend. It identifies you based on your user ID. Try 'Run Bot → Fix a single page' again. It should work for you now. I'll poke into the interface to see what happened.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:22, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Still not working. I tried with other wikis but same thing happened. Only if i change to enwiki then it works. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 23:50, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

I still can't replicate this on my end. Everything works as it should on my end. Let me see if I can drudge up some log info.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 01:13, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

@আফতাবুজ্জামান: I'm not seeing anything significant, in the logs other than some OAuth errors. I would try logging out, wiping all cookies, and logging back in to see if that fixes your problem. If that doesn't work, let me know, and I'll have to try something else.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 02:34, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Still same. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 03:24, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Then I will need to think of something else.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 20:12, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks. Another thing, here you can see that bot used english permeter for {{ওয়েব আর্কাইভ}} (Template:Webarchive). Is it possible to use bengali parameter for this template as well? Please add ইউআরএল for "url", তারিখ for "date", শিরোনাম for "title". --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 22:17, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

@আফতাবুজ্জামান: Can you file a Phabricator task so I don't forget about it. I'll have to come back to that one.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 20:43, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

done --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 22:34, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

I just noticed another spelling mistake here. Month name অগাস্ট should be আগস্ট. Should i fill another bug? Can i see source code of "bn" file for IABot? so i can see if there are any other spelling mistake. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 20:45, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

I updated the source, and will push it soon.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:44, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks again. Here (first 12 line) you can find all the translations of the month name. Kindly match them before push it live. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 22:51, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

I checked it, and it looks like the remaining spellings we're correct.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:35, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Wordpress whitelisting

While examining Wikipedia:Teahouse#Blacklist? I found [2] and [3] which may be of interest to you. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:04, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Just remove the tag.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 01:11, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I posted because you might want to revert [4] considering [5]. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:31, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

You can't revert something that doesn't exist anymore. :p—CYBERPOWER (Around) 01:39, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't know how MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist is parsed but I still see the line \bfiles\.wordpress\.com\b, now near the top instead of the end. Was it deactivated by moving it to another place? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:59, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Ah, there it is. It doesn't really make much of a difference, but I've removed it.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 12:34, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2018).

Administrator changes

None

Asterion • Crisco 1492 • KF • Kudpung • Liz • Randykitty • Spartaz

Optimist on the run → Voice of Clam

Interface administrator changes

Amorymeltzer • Mr. Stradivarius • MusikAnimal • MSGJ • TheDJ • Xaosflux

Guideline and policy news

Following a "stop-gap" discussion, six users have temporarily been made interface administrators while discussion is ongoing for a more permanent process for assigning the permission. Interface administrators are now the only editors allowed to edit sitewide CSS and JavaScript pages, as well as CSS/JS pages in another user's userspace. Previously, all administrators had this ability. The right can be granted and revoked by bureaucrats.

Technical news

Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour.
Some abuse filter variables have changed. They are now easier to understand for non-experts. The old variables will still work but filter editors are encouraged to replace them with the new ones. You can find the list of changed variables on mediawiki.org. They have a note which says Deprecated. Use ... instead. An example is article_text which is now page_title.
Abuse filters can now use how old a page is. The variable is page_age.

Arbitration

The Arbitration Committee has resolved to perform a round of Checkuser and Oversight appointments. The usernames of all applicants will be shared with the Functionaries team, and they will be requested to assist in the vetting process. The deadline to submit an application is 23:59 UTC, 12 September, and the candidates that move forward will be published on-wiki for community comments on 18 September.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:23, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

A possible problem and a general inquiry

Hi. I just spent a good bit of time on the IABot FAQ and hope you like the result. I think archiving is important work.

Specifically, in looking at the FAQ, I was trying to understand this edit. As you will see on the article page, the section in question is about various archiving domains being blocked in China. Perhaps the bot was confused by archive snapshots about archive snapshot sites?

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1 https://archive.is/OvwZi

2 https://archive.today/20180812150852/https://en.greatfire.org/https/archive.is

3 https://archive.fo/20180812150852/https://en.greatfire.org/https/archive.is

IABot replaced #1 with #2. #1 works fine, yielding the same result as (the much longer) #2, and the latter actually redirects to #3. ??? Maybe this is not important; I'll leave that for you to decide. My bias is shorter over longer.

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More generally, I am pretty familiar with archive.org, somewhat familiar with webcitation.org, and very little familiar with archive.is (which appears to be in mirror relation to archive.today, archive.li, and archive.fo). Based on your work with IABot, I'm guessing you're pretty interested in archiving. I see you have a financial relation with archive.org but still would be interested to know if you have opinions or insights about these various services? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dayirmiter (talk • contribs) 14:42, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@Dayirmiter: The bot is enforcing a policy on Wikipedia forbidding shortened URLs. So it automatically expands them to their long-form equivalents.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:08, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Very good. Thank you. Dayirmiter (talk) 04:10, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

ruwiki2

Hello. [6]? --Dima st bk (talk) 21:39, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

IAdmin

Hi Cyberpower678, following the support consensus at Special:PermaLink/857930829#IAdmin_temporary_access_request_for_User:Cyberpower678, I've added temporary IAdmin access to your account. Please keep in touch with the developments at Wikipedia_talk:Interface_administrators for an option to change to permanent access in the future. Best regards, — xaosflux ^Talk 23:39, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Malfunction

Hi Cyberpower678, we've noticed several bot malfunctions on kowiki. Please refer to the ko:위키백과:사랑방 (기술)/2018년 9월#InternetArchiveBot의 작동에 따르는 날짜 오류의 발생에 대해서. Thank you. --Ykhwong (talk) 03:55, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Userpages of community banned editors

I have updated userpages of two community banned editors which you had blocked after ANI consensus.[7][8] The recent discussion here and here suggests that the standards are same for both community banned and community indeffed editors. Lorstaking (talk) 02:48, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at WT:INTADMIN#Alternative proposal, quick expiry only

You are invited to join the discussion at WT:INTADMIN#Alternative proposal, quick expiry only. Enterprisey (talk!) 22:38, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

IABot ruined Russian article

IABot ruined Russian article «Города-побратимы Москвы» by declaring more than a hundred links dead (which are not). Sorry I have no time to explore interwiki markup, so I just leave this link here: [9]

145.255.11.144 (talk) 20:20, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Two more things:

- IABot selectively and therefore inconsistently and incorrectly removed spaces in some {{cite web}}s;

- IABot replaced Cyrillic characters in some links with code values.

145.255.11.144 (talk) 20:36, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the ArchiveBot

Nothing here, I just wanted to say thank you for your ArchiveBot. Saving external links is extremely important for Wikipedia, I'm really grateful that someone took the lead in managing the software that allows us to verify the sources even if their websites are long dead. Katkov Yury (talk) 10:36, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Concerning the "energy meter" and "stress thermometer"

...What does it do? Ryan (talk) 22:19, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

auto creation of "archiveurl" fields linking to "archive dot org" pages

Please forgive me if this comment really belongs at some other place -- such as User talk:InternetArchiveBot.

Sometimes, there can be a situation where a certain URL (example: http://www.scientomogy.com:80/ytmnd.php) may "seem" to work OK (especially "as seen by" some script, or robot...!) because it does not -- ["exactly"] -- get a "404" error, ... nor something like that which could easily be "detected" (checked for) by a robot, but rather, ... it takes one to ... (e.g.) some "temporary"-looking web page (is it called a domain "parking" page?), which suggests that the owner of the domain name is perhaps hoping that ... one of these 2 things will someday happen:

The former owner will decide to resume paying money, for the web hosting or whatever it is, -- probably to restore the erstwhile OLD web site to its former name (and its former glory... haha)

OR ... maybe

Someone else will [perhaps] be willing to pay, either for the use of that domain name, or for web hosting (maybe both). (right?)

I think this may be what happened with the URL in footnote number [21] here. Please (feel free to) see the edit comment -- especially the "PS:", which is about the second half of the edit comment -- at https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=YTMND&type=revision&diff=860142283&oldid=858231683 there.

This might be a known issue already, among those "in the know" about User:InternetArchiveBot. Thanks for your patience if this is something that [almost] everyone except me already knows about.

...and, Thanks for listening. --Mike Schwartz (talk) 17:46, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

There's nothing that can be done here to the bot. Only humans can detect those at this time.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 13:40, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Adminstats elsewhere

Hi Cyberpower, when you have time, can you help me getting {{Adminstats}} (& co.) on kowiki? I guess we obviously need that template but I don't know what other templates need to be ported over there. (kowiki does not require bot approval for all the tasks: you can safely run the task without local discussion provided speed is 1 edit per 60 secs (per m:Bot policy). — regards, Revi 18:28, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Request

Please, save links into archive from this article. I'm afraid some of them would be not available during one or two days because of political censorship. — Дмитрий Кошелев (talk) 07:35, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Bug in your bot operation

Hi, I have just found a series of mistakes in your bot operation. Can you please check this as an example? As you can see your bot left this: "[[Nemes Marcell" without properly closing the brackets. Can you please update your bot? Thanks. Csigabi (talk) 08:52, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Bot is disabled in pt wiki?

Hi. After the bot was approved in pt wiki (discussion, request) it seems to have run for 2 days and then stopped. I tried using the interface to see what was going on, to no avail. Could you take a look? Saturnalia0 (talk) 13:55, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Typos correction for IABot talk messages in gl.wiki

Hi Cyberpower678, my fellows from gl.wiki have detected a couple of typos in the messages left by IABot in the talk pages of the modified archives, which is totally my fault for not asking a review from the community when I translated them initially. If possible, we would like to correct them for future messages. Using as reference the list of messages that I translated in the Phabricator related task, the needed corrections would be the following (marked in bold):

2nd message:
- Ola compañeiros editores,\n\nAcabo de modificar {linksrescued} ligazóns externas en [[{namespacepage}]]. Por favor tomádevos un momento para revisar [{diff} a miña edición]. Se tedes calquera pregunta, ou precisades que o bot ignore ben estas ligazóns ou ben a páxina por completo, por favor visitade este FAQ para máis información. Fixen os seguintes cambios:\n{modifiedlinks}\nPor favor revisade o FAQ para máis información sobre como corrixir erros do bot.\n\nSaúdos.
4th message:
- Ola compañeiros editores,\n\nAtopei unha ou máis ligazóns externas en [[{namespacepage}]] que precisan revisión. Por favor tomádevos un momento para revisar as ligazóns que atopei e corrixilas no artigo se fose necesario. Atopei os seguintes problemas:\n{modifiedlinks}\nUnha vez rematados os cambios necesarios, por favor visitade este FAQ para máis información sobre como arranxar calquera tipo de problema coas URLs mencionadas enriba.\n\nEste aviso só se fará unha vez para estas URLs.\n\nSaúdos.
12th message:
- Corrixiuse o formato ou uso da ligazón {link}

I hope these changes are not much of a hassle. It's not an urgent request by any means, but we'd appreciate if you can take some time to correct these. My apologies for the added work caused, and thank you. BTW, the bot's been running smoothly since you implemented it, and it has been a great addition to our Wikipedia, thanks for all the effort on this awsome tool. Cheers! Banjo (talk) 21:14, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

@Banjo: Did you know you can do that yourself as well as any admin on Wikipedia? Just go to https://tools.wmflabs.org/iabot/index.php?page=wikiconfig&wiki=glwiki to make the changes. :-)—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 13:50, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

My bad... I had indeed seen that page, but did not scroll down enough to see the messages part. Will do so, thanks a ton! :) Banjo (talk) 18:11, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Question about InternetArchiveBot in pt-wiki

Hi Cyberpower678! I just noticed that a few months ago you created InternetArchiveBot for the Portuguese Wikipedia. I really like what your bot does, since it helps a lot with references. I was wondering one thing, is https://g1.globo.com/ one of the domains listed in it? It is one of the most accessed news portal in Brazil, controlled by Rede Globo. I was wondering if you can archive their links. Thanks! User:Tetizeraz. Send me a ✉️ ! 20:37, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

IABot don't tagging as dead in description.

Hello. The bot marks the "dead link", but does not report it in the description. [10]. Iniquity (talk) 16:58, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Unfit url

At Nefertiti there's a citation that was changed by Cyberbot II to move a Wayback Machine URL from |url= to |archiveurl=. This is obviously correct, but it set |deadurl= to unfit rather than yes (the URL in question really is dead). I don't really understand the significance of this. Is it safe to change it to yes? It's an Egyptian government site so the link doesn't seem unfit per se. Hairy Dude (talk) 00:12, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

That’s an ancient edit. Do what you feel needs to be done.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 00:15, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to hear you are stressed, though at least you have lots of energy...

...

Qwerty number1 has given you a kitten! Kittens promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Your kitten must be fed three times a day and will be your faithful companion forever! Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a kitten, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

Spread the goodness of kittens by adding {{subst:Kitten}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or kittynap their kitten with {{subst:Kittynap}}

You will have less energy with this cutie about, though perhaps you will be able to relax more! Qwerty number1 (talk) 20:50, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Interface admin

Hi Cyberpower

Thanks for your close at the long-running discussion on granting interface admin permissions. There was a lot of discussion to wade through there, and it seems like your close is a fair summary of the consensus. Just one question though, on your point "Re-admin requests, not under a cloud, will not have a waiting period" - was that something you picked up from the discussion, because I'm not seeing that. As far as I can tell the primary reason for the 48-hour window is to prevent outsiders maliciously compromising an admin account and then requesting the privelege. That means the 48 hour period should apply to any request, whether it's the first one or not. Perhaps I'm missing something though. Cheers! — Amakuru (talk) 22:25, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

It was mentioned in the ~~second~~third proposal. I may have misread it though. I will go back and take a look.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:27, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes, it's in there. administrators whose permission was removed within the last two years for inactivity or voluntarily can be re-granted the permission without a waiting period.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:29, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Oh I see, yes. Sorry, I failed to spot that the first time going through. So you're not worried about the above issue then? That a compromised admin account for someone who held the permission a year ago could apply for and be immediately granted the permission? Nobody really addressed that issue in the discussion... — Amakuru (talk) 22:37, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

It is worrying, but I can't just arbitrarily change what people supported in a close statement. That's kind of like an AfD with only keep votes getting deleted by the closer. Unfortunately in this case, a new RfC is required. I may have added some extras that were a little vague in the proposal, based on my best interpretation of what the user's want, to help complete the close, but nothing there is a direct contradiction of community consensus.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for closing, Cyberpower678. I'm a little confused about the non-admin bit. If non-admins cannot currently request the right, then why was a process for requesting it included as part of the closing statement? Mz7 (talk) 23:14, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Killing two birds with one stone to save the effort of yet another RFC of establishing process for non-admins. The only RFC needed now is the one to decide if non-admins can request access now.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 00:37, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

IABot Management Console, broken title when archiving bare link.

I recently saw that the Management Console is sometimes unable to parse the title of a webpage it is trying to archive and instead places {title}. Cf. [11]. Regards Lordtobi (✉) 14:30, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

your poll

Now there are more options to vote for. You should take a look at Wikipedia talk:Interface administrators#Allow non-admins to request access? —usernamekiran(talk) 00:59, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Minor bot coding fix apparently needed for minor Linter error

Can you please adjust the bot's code so that it closes the italics on this page? Thanks. It's very minor, but the error is transcluded on many pages. – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:39, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot on fawiki

Hi,

About a year ago, you proposed to deplay InternetArchiveBot on fawiki; it was approved with unanymous vote, but we all forgot to follow up on it.

Yesterday I read in the news that this has been successfully ongoing on several other Wikipedias so I mentioned it on fawiki Village Pump and there was interest to revisit the idea. What steps do you need us to take (from help with translation, to testing, etc.) so we can deploy it there as well?

Please {{ping}} me in your responses.

Thanks! huji—TALK 18:07, 4 October 2018 (UTC)