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This Month in Education: January 2020
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- There is a new version of the Wikimedia Commons app for Android. It should fix the failed uploads problem. [1]
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- There was a problem with the new MediaWiki version last week. It deleted some messages by accident. The new version was late because it was stopped to fix things. [2]
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- The MediaWiki action API is used by various tools like bots and gadgets. Some error codes will change. Some parameter values that do not follow the standard will no longer work. [3]
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- Pages on Wikidata and Commons now load faster. You can read more about page load performance. [4][5]
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February 2020
Hi DMacks. Thanks for being vigilant. As to the changes I made to the profile, that is actually me updating my own personal data. Please allow the changes I made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ACD6651 (talk • contribs) 07:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Then surely it's published somewhere (maybe at least some reporter saw and mentioned something about it?). Otherwise it's not really valid content (WP is not facebook or a social/tabloid site). But be sure before you make even one more edit you comply with the mandatory WP:COI disclosure policy. DMacks (talk) 07:36, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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20:59, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
"See Also" link validity
Hi. You reverted my "see also" link at The Thing for RAGEMASTER. WP:SEEALSO says, "One purpose of 'See also' links is to enable readers to explore tangentially related topics; however, articles linked should be related to the topic of the article." The only restrictions ("should not," not "must not") is red links and disambiguation pages. It doesn't really matter if the link is there or not, but I'm not sure why you say it's "not a valid WP:SEEALSO entry." Would you please clarify what makes it invalid? Thanks. Dsm (talk) 23:23, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note. As the annotation on the link article was written, it seemed too far afield. That's why I mentioned WP:WTAF, so get an expanded target for link. Looking more closely at the NSA ANT catalog entry for RAGEMASTER, I can more clearly see how it's related. I re-added it to The Thing (listening device) with an alternate annotation. DMacks (talk) 19:14, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
Advice on removing file from category on Commons
Hi DMacks. See File:Jomfruland_farm.jpg. This file is in Commons:Category:Lighthouses in Telemark. Evidently a farm is not a lighthouse. What is the best way to remove it from the category? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 16:48, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
- You should be able to edit the File: page on commons, just like you edit any other page (article, file, etc) on en.wp. I agree with your understanding of architecture and land-use:) However, that file's description notes (according to Google's translation from Norwegian) "Top of the Virgo lighthouse to the right over the roof." I do see a lighthouse peeking out, but I'm not sure if it's Jomfruland_Lighthouse (compare to other images in commons:Category:Jomfruland Lighthouse) or just one in the same utilitarian style. DMacks (talk) 17:01, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
- So, not a very good picture of a lighthouse, but at least it's there! Thanks for checking. EdJohnston (talk) 01:56, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
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- Readers who were not logged in briefly saw the interface in a language decided by their browser. It should normally be in the language of the wiki. This happened for a short period of time last week. This was because of a bug. [6]
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- If you forget your password you can ask for a new one to be sent to your email address. You need to know your email address or your username. You will now be able to choose that you need to enter both your email address and your username. This will be a preference. This is to get fewer password reset emails someone else asked for. [7]
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00:35, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
This Month in Education: February 2020
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Zwitterion
The version you have restored contains serious factual errors which I had corrected.
Formation of a zwitterion is a chemical reaction, in the class of reactions known as isomerization.
- Isoelectric point involves dissociation, not isomerization.
- Multiprotic systems: The contents of section have nothing at all to do with the title subject.
- Resonance structures are irrelevant.
- The phospholipid that was shown exhibits positional isomerism, not zwitterion formation.
You also removed the quantitative statement regarding the isomerization constant which I had added. It needs to be corrected. Replace
- CH2NCH2OH ⇌ CH3N+CH2O- in my last edit by
and
- by
Petergans (talk) 10:39, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
- I'm always happy to see mistakes corrected. But you introduced substantial new ones in the lede, where the lede had at least the correct defintion of the whole topic, which is not a good way to start. Maybe go slowly, fixing individual mistakes in smaller commits? The idea of resonance is not the same, but the idea of charge separation (which is an aspect of zwitterions) does appear in that idea, but the content was written in a way that did note the differences. IMO, non-experts should be warned and instructed about the contrast of things that have similar appearance. DMacks (talk) 02:50, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- Please stop doing so much damage to the article in your attempt to fix what you see as wrong with it. Go slow. Fix one thing at a time. Your full overhaul inserted multiple mistakes and removed major chunks of cited and/or useful content that you do not seem to dispute. DMacks (talk) 03:22, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- I won't participate in an edit war. You have re-introduced a serious error: isoelectric point has nothing to do with zwitterions. It's the pH value of a solution that contains equal total concentrations (weighted by charge values) of positively and negatively charged species. A zwitterion and its isomer are micro-species, of the same stoichiometry, that carry the same overall electrical charge, usually zero. The relative proportion of the micro-species is independent of pH. This is shown by the expression which you have also removed for no good reason. I ask you to correct these errors yourself by removing mention of isoelectric point and putting back the deleted expression and associated text. Petergans (talk) 14:28, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Please stop doing so much damage to the article in your attempt to fix what you see as wrong with it. Go slow. Fix one thing at a time. Your full overhaul inserted multiple mistakes and removed major chunks of cited and/or useful content that you do not seem to dispute. DMacks (talk) 03:22, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
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17:14, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Catholic Memorial Crusaders
Why do you keep removing the reference to the Crusader mascot being controversial? It is controversial. Like the Redskins mascot. Whether you like the mascot and the school or whether you don't is irrelevant. Many schools have discussed this issue, some have changed the mascot, some have not. Nevertheless it is controversial. Uofcphd (talk) 14:24, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Indeed anything about what "I think" is irrelevant. That's why here on Wikipedia, we need sources (the verifiability policy and reliable-sources guideline). And we function on discussion and consensus for content, not edit-warring. Given there was a recent discussion that apparently had consensus to remove it (on article's talkpage, the usual place for public discussions related to article content), it's on you to start a new discussion to get a new consensus with a different outcome. DMacks (talk) 03:17, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Join the WikiProject Chemistry
Hello DMacks, since I mainly work in the German Wikipedia, I'm not quite sure how some things work here in the English Wikipedia. As I'm sure you know, I primarily work in the field of chemistry and I intend to contribute here on the English Wikipedia as well. Therefore I want to join the Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry and the Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemicals. Is it okay, if I just join these projects by signing my name to the lists? Or do I have to apply with a form? Best regards, Chem Sim 2001 (talk) 15:44, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Just add your name to the list. It's very informal. And you do not need to join (your name on the list) in order to participate in any activities. I just realized I have not listed myself at either, despite many thousands of edits to those types of articles and working on some major project activities. I'll go fix that now:) DMacks (talk) 20:28, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your answer! I have just added my name and the description of what I intend to do here to the list. :-) I also would like to say thanks for the good cooperation on Wikimedia Commons regarding the deletion of files (thanks for your support there!). Have a nice evening & a good start into the new week, Chem Sim 2001 (talk) 21:29, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Spectrum
Thank you for flagging that issue; I've changed them both to dagger footnotes. Nate • (chatter) 17:57, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
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21:17, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
shaun
hi I started a new draft for shaun the sheep: A Winter’s Tale and wonder if you wolud like to come over and help edit it Fanoflionking 15:28, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Regarding Platform Calgary Page
Dear DMacks,
"Calgary Platform" is a public/govt. incubator program. Please re-consider about the deletion of the page. Its from educational body "University of Calgary" to support the start-ups. https://www.platformcalgary.com/about-us/our-shareholders/
Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bsidhu.sait (talk • contribs) 04:18, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- That may well be true, but the article that was written about it was not acceptable per WP standards. Do you have some personal connection to this program? DMacks (talk) 15:26, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
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- Some development will be slower than planned. This is because of the current pandemic. You can see the new deployment guidelines. This is to avoid risks when some persons could be unavailable.
- There was a problem when adding interwiki links. The tool you use to add interwiki links could suggest the wrong project to link to. This has now been fixed. [19][20]
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17:07, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Defending incorrect dogma on Glucose
Hello DMacks:
You have deleted brief, relevant, correct scientific statements I had added to the article on Glucose, writing: "this is interesting and novel and published in a good journal, but it's novel primary research and therefore we would have do give it at most only scant mention for now because it is primary-sourced and goes against decades of conventional knowlege and secondary/tertiary sources."
Scientific arguments should count more than incorrect dogma or the rules of Wikipedia, which were not made for this unusual situation. The "conventional knowledge" in bioenergetics is really just "conventional assumptions", which turn out to be wrong. David Nelson, one of the authors of the famous Lehninger Biochemistry textbook, has conceded in an email to me that "My first look at your work made it clear that this is a major change in thinking about bioenergetics." and will discuss with his coauthors "whether to incorporate your concepts in the next edition of our book".
The paper which I quoted was peer-reviewed and quantitatively explains several important observations regarding glucose that the conventional description cannot account for. So the conventional dogma is disproved and cannot be supported any longer. Please note that the geocentric universe, the phlogiston, and the ether as the medium for electromagnetic waves were also once scientific dogma.
Please reconsider, as a scientist, your decision to delete correct scientific content in favor of incorrect dogma. Thanks, Klaus Schmidt-Rohr (talk) 22:24, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Hi, Klaus Schmidt-Rohr. The thing for you to do is start a discussion on the article's talk page and attempt to gain consensus for your changes. As you've condemned them above, you must be aware of our sourcing guidelines for medicine related subjects (WP:MEDRS, among others), but we also have policy regarding citing your own work. Sorry, don't recall the link for that. Even though DMacks is an administrator here, he cannot change policy. The community sets policy, in much the same manner as we decide article content. By consensus. Hope this is helpful. John from Idegon (talk) 08:16, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
- I have looked up the policies and cannot confirm what you claim:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_and_using_primary_sources is headlined "Primary does not mean bad". and goes on to say: "Primary" is not, and should not be, a bit of jargon used by Wikipedians to mean "bad" or "unreliable" or "unusable". While some primary sources are not fully independent, they can be authoritative, high-quality, accurate, fact-checked, expert-approved, subject to editorial control, and published by a reputable publisher. Primary sources can be reliable, and they can be used. Sometimes, a primary source is even the best possible source, such as when you are supporting a direct quotation. In such cases, the original document is the best source because the original document will be free of any errors or misquotations introduced by subsequent sources." By the way, chemical energy is a chemistry-, not a medicine-related topic.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Attribution#Citing_yourself: confirms that my citations were perfectly fine. It says: "You may cite your own publications just as you would cite anyone else's, but make sure your material is relevant and that you are regarded as a reliable source for the purposes of Wikipedia." The publication is in a respectable, peer-reviewed scientific journal, directly addresses the question, and I am a world expert in chemical energy while biology and biochemistry textbook authors are not. Klaus Schmidt-Rohr (talk) 10:15, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
- Primary doesn't mean bad, but it also doesn't mean a single example of it can overturn a massive amount of other primary/secondary. What you cited is an explanatory note, so it doesn't have the power of a more-authoritative guideline (WP:SCHOLARSHIP) or the WP:RSPRIMARY policy. It's not that what you have written is unreliable, but Wikipedia is definitely conservative/mainstream not cutting-edge/against-convention. Regardless of personal communications and the amount of analysis included in a single primary source, we have to give it due weight vs other sources. DMacks (talk) 17:17, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Attribution#Citing_yourself: confirms that my citations were perfectly fine. It says: "You may cite your own publications just as you would cite anyone else's, but make sure your material is relevant and that you are regarded as a reliable source for the purposes of Wikipedia." The publication is in a respectable, peer-reviewed scientific journal, directly addresses the question, and I am a world expert in chemical energy while biology and biochemistry textbook authors are not. Klaus Schmidt-Rohr (talk) 10:15, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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This Month in Education: March 2020
Zwitterion (part2)
The reasons for reversion are given on the article talk page. In particular, why the current Gold book definition is unacceptable is detailed there. Petergans (talk) 11:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- You need a cite to overcome a cite, not a personal assertion. DMacks (talk) 12:25, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- In principle, I agree, but what is needed in this instance is a correction, done by an expert, to the IUPAC page. Once that has been done it may be cited in WP. Petergans (talk) 11:02, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- Now that you have identified the chronology, please double-check that you don't jump the gun by changing the article before IUPAC does. Go lean on IUPAC. WP by site policy cannot lead the charge ahead of citeable reliable sources, and can lead to editors being blocked altogether for contradicting reliable sources without having actual sources to support the alternate position. DMacks (talk) 16:11, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- In principle, I agree, but what is needed in this instance is a correction, done by an expert, to the IUPAC page. Once that has been done it may be cited in WP. Petergans (talk) 11:02, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
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17:25, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Edgar
I just figured out what happened to Edgar. I realize that messing with elections sounds pretty serious. He was exclusively an agent for good as Edgar181. A big loss for the chemistry project. --Smokefoot (talk) 23:36, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah:( Definitely unexpected and disappointing IMO. DMacks (talk) 23:38, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
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19:02, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Response to frogman
Hey, i got back to you on the antifrogman article on my talk. - AH (talk) 15:07, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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- You can now use the
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- You can see edits from the Wikimedia Cloud Services in a new dashboard.
- When you use filters on a history page you sometimes don't see any edits. There is a text explaining this now. Before it was just empty. [28]
- There is a new Wikimedia Technical Blog. [29]
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- There was a problem with the Wikidata database last week. Some wikis went down for twenty minutes. Wikidata and other projects showed error messages. Interwiki links were not shown, some tools did not work and other problems. Some of this was fixed quickly. The developers are working on fixing the rest. [30][31][32]
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15:30, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
The Triflers and It's Author are Notable, You Have Falsely Undone my addition.
First I would like to state that the book is released and has been for a couple of years. Evidence being its store page on Etsy: The Triflers Ebook. Don't forget the hardcover and paperback editions on Lulu.com. Though I don't have exact sales numbers I will like to point out that the author under his pen name Mumkey Jones runs a successful Youtube channel, of 300,000 Subscribers. Though for transparency he has much lost of that subscriber account due to conflicts with Youtube, and now only has 150K but that doesn't matter since the book was released far before said conflicts. He has collaborated with respected and well-known YouTubers with cult followings such as Emplemon and Rusty Cage. Review wise the book averages 4.34 stars on good reads with 59% out of the 80 reviews/ratings being 5 stars.
I'll be reverting your erasing of my addition to the article, I hope I have understandably explained how The Triflers is a notable inclusion to the contents of the article.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34371109-the-triflers
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilly-of-the-Bracken (talk • contribs) 23:23, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- See WP:GNG and subpages to learn what wikipedia means by "notable". It has nothing to do with popularity. See also WP:WTAF. DMacks (talk) 03:34, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Working on a new version of the Resonance article
Hi DMacks,
From the page history it looks like you've been maintaining the Resonance article. I wanted to give you a heads up that I'm working on a rewrite of that article over in my sandbox and figured I'd give you a chance to preview it before making big changes to the actual page. As of today I think the simple harmonic oscillator section and the RLC circuit section are about ready to drop onto the actual page. The linear systems section is close, though I'd like to add a specific example to it later.
The draft has a rough outline of the other content I plan to include as well as some notes in italics. So far it's light on sources and graphics.
Error9312 (talk) 01:57, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Nebraska State Capitol edits
About your recent reversions re: "Penis of the Plains" (sic), the purpose of my edits was not to censor the article due to content, in spite of your claims to the contrary. The purpose was to remove non-notable trivia from the article, per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. The removal of such trivia would be justified even if the content itself were not offensive, objectionable, or controversial. It's not a censorship issue, it's a notability issue. Also, you mentioned that "Two editors" agreed with your reversions, but as seen on the "Revision history" page, there are a lot more editors who disagree with your reversions than agree with it. Even if their motives for removing the content were driven by censorship, that does not mean that they were wrong to do so. Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons does not change the fact that it's the right thing to do. Perhaps you could visit the Talk page to discuss the notability of the content in question. Greggens (talk) 03:34, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- I mentioned NOTCENSORED when undoing a removal whose edit-summary indicated that the reason for removal was that the content was vulgar/obscene/etc. I did not mention it when undoing your edit, as you did not mention that specific concern. Instead, this specific bit of content has been debated for 11 years, and the constant back-and-forth editing is a poor substitute for a talk-page discussion that was already started. WP is not a vote or about personal knowledge, but instead a discussion based on sources and content guidelines is the way to go. I'll check the talkpage later today. DMacks (talk) 08:17, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- You're right. It wasn't you who mentioned WP:NOTCENSORED when reverting one of my edits. I had you confused with another editor. Nonetheless, the content in question is still an issue of notability and not censorship. Greggens (talk) 21:40, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Please explain
Please explain your 3 posts [34] [35] [36] that I don't understand? I [37] already directed the OP to the area rule article and I don't see why you calculate Mach 13.25. DroneB (talk) 13:20, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- First, I was noting that "Whitcomb area rule" was directly linkable. I didn't notice that it was a redirect to the simple-named "area rule" you later advised the OP to see. Sorry about that! I usually try to include links along the way as I discuss instead of later instructing where to look (habit from editing articles I guess). Second, Mach 13.25 is the vector addition of 53 cars at Mach 0.25 each. I stopped at that point because car 54 is missing, according to the Car 54, Where Are You? TV program--that's where my "the next Mach 0.25 increment is missing" text links. Third, as any scientist, I can wave my hands to make complications, like combined effects or complications of scale, simply go away by assuming "everything is as simple as a first approximation" or "let's only think about one factor for now". That's why I linked my final comment to Spherical cow. DMacks (talk) 15:51, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- First, my response that directed the OP to area rule article came before your responses and not "later" as you suppose. Second, the Quiz question specified 4 cars not 54. That number has no relevance apart from your retention of an obscure American TV program aired some 57 years ago. Third, my opinion is that irresponsible comments added at the Ref. Desks should be kept in small text. It's not too late for you to make that adjustment if you so choose. DroneB (talk) 21:27, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Later advised" was within the timeline of your own message itself (you talked about a topic by one name, and then later in that same message of yours advised OP to read a page that was on that topic but not quite same name). Because of the way I read your message, I misread that it was the same ultimate target article when I later posted my response. I have small'ed my attempt at humor. You are welcome to your opinion obviously. DMacks (talk) 02:26, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- First, my response that directed the OP to area rule article came before your responses and not "later" as you suppose. Second, the Quiz question specified 4 cars not 54. That number has no relevance apart from your retention of an obscure American TV program aired some 57 years ago. Third, my opinion is that irresponsible comments added at the Ref. Desks should be kept in small text. It's not too late for you to make that adjustment if you so choose. DroneB (talk) 21:27, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
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18:44, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
Payal Rajput Page
Sir, I had reverted the changes in Date of Birth made by an IP user '157.39.112.2' in Payal Rajput Page, Just because in both sources provided by the IP user has a clear disclaimer at the end of the article 'No Deccan Chronicle journalist was involved in creating this content. The group also takes no responsibility for this content" and 'No Asian Age journalist was involved in creating this content. The group also takes no responsibility for this content.'. So, I took them as unreliable for change in date of birth. Hence, I had reverted those edits by IP user . I saw your notes in edit summary, So I thought, I should share the reason behind reverting those edits. Thanks Divyam Seth (talk) 13:18, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the followup. What you found does seem concerning. The two refs we have are the same content just in different imprints of the same publisher's family of news sites. Deccan Chronicle seems to be considered a generally reliable source. It sounds here like they are just parroting a press release or other content supplied by some uncited sources? It's better than our previous situation, where our content wasn't cited at all. I'll put a tag there asking for a better ref. If you think it's bad enough that we should say nothing rather than this content cited to an uncertain-reliability source, or have any other source for any alternate birthday, we can figure out how go further. DMacks (talk) 15:24, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
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Bullying in Wikipedia and BAN Request
Hi DMacks,
I have seen User:Tiven2240 is bullying me on different wikipedia. i.e. Marathi, English, Wikimedia, Wiki Data. Also I got message he suggested my name to BAN mentioning, I'm doing paid edits. I already conveyed this to Marathi Wikipedia Bureaucrat User:अभय नातू, User:V.narsikar about this. This has all started with Article in Marathi Wikipedia [| योगेश दत्तात्रय गोसावी ]. He called me sock-puppet of someone. I had edited and updated article with fresh references and if you could check it neatly its clearly written in forms accepted by Wikipedia Norms also I have seen and check if he fits in WP:Author, WP:Director criteria!!! The article recreated with valid references which is accepted by Wikipedia's Notability policy. I herewith request you kindly look forward in this and stop this bullying from Mr. Tiven. Kindly had word with Marathi Wikipedia's Bureaucrat to understand its notability and after all this if you found me guilty feel free to BAN me but if I didnt stop this bullying from Mr Tiven by BANNING him please. Looking forward to hear from you.
Sunita — Preceding unsigned comment added by सुनीता पडबिद्री (talk • contribs) 13:18, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- You and your organization have a long history of abusing several different sites on the Wikimedia/Wikipedia realm: violating their Terms of Service and other policies. That is not acceptable. It no longer matters whether it is "you personally" or different individuals working in the same way. You and your edits are no longer welcome here and will be instantly blocked across all sites every time you pop up with a new account. Repeatedly creating new accounts when old ones get blocked is just one of the ways you are violating our policies. DMacks (talk) 17:15, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Seems another account created User:AnishJog. Kindly take appropriate actions --✝iѵɛɳ२२४०†ลℓк †๏ мэ 04:34, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- On it. Could you pleaes use {{noping}} or some variant when talking about an account? The link is easier for me to follow than having to cut'n'paste:) DMacks (talk) 05:01, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
About Deletion of Yogesh Dattatreya Gosavi
Hi I've seen you have recently deleted article which has been submitted for creation. I want to mention few things as I guess you haven't checked it neatly before proceed for deletion! First I didn't understood what is Xwiki Spam and Sockpuppet as I neither know any such person name Ivan or nor I've ever heard or connected to such person. About article I found it passes WP:Author and WP:Director so I've putten request for creation as sources I found was genuine and reliable as per WIKI Rules, which is is of Times Of India and many reliable sources and the person in article has seem to be got award from times group. If you found him non reliable kindly give me reason as well. Sharing you again a link of his Award News kindly see neatly then decide apart it was well written not in any kind of advertisement or not for any publicity all things mentioned was having Valid references and was on Digital News media!!! I request again kindly rethink on your decision and check this link once.... [1] AnishJog (talk) 05:27, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Give it up for these gen-next leaders!". Times Of India. 26 February 2020. Retrieved 6 May 2020.
- Once it becomes a pile of sock-puppetry evidence, I do not care about the article's content. Abusing our servers cannot be tolerated. DMacks (talk) 06:18, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
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20:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Question about copyright message and links
Close Wikipedia and copyright
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DMacks. Thanks for your guidance. Please we should add these organic compounds (Nigellicine , Nigellidine , Nigellimine, Carvacrol , α- Hederin , Thymol , Thymoquinone , Dithymoquinone ,thymohydroquinone )into page of Nigella sativa or black seed.If you have proper education in chemistry especially in "organic chemistry "then you will understand. I respect the senior editors but page of Nigella sativa is missing organic compounds.Thousands research papers of journals of high impact factor carrying information about Nigella sativa. But if you see page of Nigella sativa, it seems an agricultural or forestry page. If you don't mind may I ask your specialization in chemistry? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chemistry Online1 (talk • contribs) 10:35, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
DMacks Please update your knowledge. Always go for research and read publications. Now Wikipedia needs updated persons. I edited the page Nigella sativa with that reference which was already mentioned there. For support of that reference I am giving you this link, please visit this site. https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/cfrsearch.cfm?fr=182.10 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chemistry Online1 (talk • contribs) 12:55, 17 May 2020 (UTC)