User talk:Davnik66

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Hello, Davnik66, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as User:Davnik66/sandbox/Dave Nicholas, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Davnik66/sandbox/Dave Nicholas

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A tag has been placed on User:Davnik66/sandbox/Dave Nicholas, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Dave Nicholas (December 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Legacypac was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Previously deleted from mainspace same issues

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Legacypac (talk) 00:49, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Davnik66! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Legacypac (talk) 00:49, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, thanks for message. You can sign your comments automatically using four tildes ~~~~. Note also that links to Wikipedia articles should be done like [[XTERRA Triathlon]], to give XTERRA Triathlon, not using urls, and that Wikipedia can't be used as a reference anyway.

I deleted your article because

it did not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that you meet the notability guidelines for sport or in general. It is now Wikipedia policy that biographical articles about living people must have independent verifiable references, as defined in the link, or they will be deleted. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the subject or his organisation, press releases, Wikipedia, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what he claims or interviewing him. You gave some references, but some were not acceptable, such as Wikipedia and your own or your friends' sites or blogs, or they didn't actually verify what they were referencing. For example, Nicholas started competing in 1963 at an SCCA is referenced to this scca page, which doesn't appear to even mention you. Also In 2012 Nicholas returned to racing in a vintage MGA known as Honey Bee. Since then the two have won 5 SVRA is again referenced to a svra page that again doesn't verify that claim. You can't just add random links, they have to be independent third-party sources that actually support what you are claiming, otherwise you could just write anything.
Unless we can verify what you claim, you cannot meet our notability criteria linked above
it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Examples of unsourced or self-sourced claims presented as fact include: champion race driver... The event was successful... his life long passion... Copies of the BARC Gazette are now available in the auto racing reference library.
Note that there shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
For completeness, note that copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial, and text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.
You have an obvious conflict of interest and you must declare it.If, after reading the information about notability linked above, you still believe that you are notable enough for a Wikipedia article (and that there is significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources), you could, if you wish, post a request at Wikipedia:Requested articles for the article to be created. See also guidance for editors with conflicts of interest and writing about yourself. If you chose to write about yourself, you must make your COI clear on the article talk page.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article.

I don't object in principle to restoring the text, minus some of the promotional bits and all the "references", but if you can't find independent third-party sources to verify what you are saying, it will just be deleted again. I suggest that you look to see if you can find proper references before you ask me to restore. Also see Michèle Mouton as a sports person bio. You don't need that level of detail, but just to give an idea of referencing and layout. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:21, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]