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Speedy Deletion

I need some help. My Account of 7 days is trying to be deleted. Can you help? ThePresidentoftheworld (talk) 00:58, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Donald. ThePresidentoftheworld (talk) 00:59, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@ThePresidentoftheworld: Your user page has been proposed for deletion because Wikipedia is not the place to promote your personal fantasy. - Donald Albury 01:19, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Loftus Edit

Hi Donald, Nice to meet you. I appreciate the effort at maintaining neutrality and letting readers draw their own conclusions. I was familiar with Loftus from the Maxwell, North, Weinstein, and Simpson trials, so when I came across mention of her on the Durst page (reading due to his recent death) I went "wow, him too?".

Is there a version of that edit which would strike you as more neutral? Perhaps mentioning that Loftus was an expert witness in defense of Durst, but omitting that he was convicted of murder? Maybe also mentioning that, in the McMartin trial, her testimony helped get false accusations of abuse dismissed? I guess I'm having a hard time understanding how we'd keep things neutral when the material facts could be seen to paint an unflattering picture of someone.

WhichDoctor (talk) 17:46, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

@WhichDoctor: I think this is best discussed on the article talk page, where other editors can participate. I have started a discussion at Talk:Elizabeth Loftus/Archive 2#Coverage of testimony in trials. - Donald Albury 19:44, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Riverside High School Jacksonville FL Wiki Site Information Errors

Mr. Albury:

The below information that is found within Riverside High School's page here on Wiki is in error. The new Riverside High School is in NO WAY affiliated with the former Robert E. Lee High School whose name was changed for this current one. Please assist me in deleting these incorrections:

Athletics The Lee Generals have won 15 FHSAA state championships.[27] The following sports are offered at Lee:[28]

Boys Cross Country State champs - 1947-1949 and 1967[29] Boys Golf Cheerleading Football Girls Bowling Girls Golf Swimming and Diving Volleyball Boys Basketball State champs - 1930 and 1940[30] Girls Basketball Boys Soccer Girls Soccer Girls Weightlifting Slow Pitch Softball Wrestling Baseball State champs - 1945 and 1961[31] Boys Tennis Girls Tennis Boys Track State champs - 1930, 1937 and 1943-1947[32] Girls Track Fast Pitch Softball Girls Flag Football Lacrosse Girls Lacrosse Notable alumni Catie Ball, Olympic swimmer Hoyt Axton, singer, song writer, actor played football at Oklahoma State Don Barnes, member of the band 38 Special Edgar Bennett, Florida State University and Green Bay Packers running back, wide receivers coach Las Vegas Raiders Randall Berg, public interest lawyer, former president of the Florida chapter of the ACLU Don Bessent, Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher LeRoy Butler, four-time All-Pro safety for the Green Bay Packers Ander Crenshaw, Representative for the 4th district of Florida Celso de Mello, 1963-1964 AFS exchange student from Brazil, Senior Justice Supreme Federal Court[33] Clarence Denmark, Winnipeg Blue Bombers (CFL) Slotback[34] Sheck Exley, pioneering cave diver Ken Fallin, caricaturist for the Wall Street Journal Earl Leggett, Chicago Bears tackle Angelo Liteky, chaplain in Vietnam, Medal of Honor recipient, later renounced Stetson Kennedy, author, folklorist, human rights activist Allen Lynch, economist Members of the band Lynyrd Skynyrd (some attended, but did not graduate). Mark McCumber, professional golfer Ron Meeks, defensive coordinator for the Indianapolis Colts Jessica Morris, actress who has appeared on American soap opera One Life to Live Stephen Nicholas, National Football League player for the Atlanta Falcons Corky Rogers, winningest football coach in Florida[35] Hans Tanzler, former mayor of Jacksonville Harmon Wages, Atlanta Falcons fullback, Gatorade actor Donnie Van Zant, member of the band 38 Special

Thank you

Bellbucket (talk) 05:12, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

@Bellbucket: That is not how things work on Wikipedia. A change of name does not cancel the history of the school. I strongly advise you to propose any changes you want to make to Riverside High School (Florida) at Talk:Riverside High School (Florida), and to not edit the article unless and until other editors have commented and a consensus has been reached to make those edits. - Donald Albury 17:00, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2022

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Village pump discussion on sources needs closing - troll?

It's going nowhere and wasting time. What do you think? Doug Weller talk 11:41, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: That thought had occurred to me. I probably shouldn't have wasted my time replying to him. Who should shut it down? - Donald Albury 12:54, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
I don't know. I think WP:BLUDGEON might be enough if you don't think the IP is trolling. Do you think a closure could be appealed? Doug Weller talk 16:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Alachua, FL

You in fact are incorrect. I was born in Gainesville, FL and have lived in Alachua for over 40 years. The ONLY people that call it "Alachua" are ignorant "bumpkins". Just because someone in a Conestogas commercial calls it "Alachauay" doesn't mean that's how it is properly pronounced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrunoP211 (talk • contribs) 01:38, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

I have responded on your talk page. - Donald Albury 01:54, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Cbinetti (talk) 15:04, 12 February 2022 (UTC)cbinetti-I found a citation but I am too afraid to add it without permission. "Reptiles were the first group of vertebrates to be completely adapted to life on land." https://webprojects.oit.ncsu.edu/project/bio181de/Lab/animal_diversity/reptiles.html

Reptiles and mammals

(Moved from within previous section to bottom of page.) 69.127.44.36 (talk) 15:00, 12 February 2022 (UTC)I do not think that it should have been reverted. The paragraph itself had stated that the synapsids and sauropsids both evolved from reptiliomorphs. It is entirely alright to summarize this already-cited statement as showing that all amniotes are reptiles. Ihope that you will revert the reversion.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbinetti (talk • contribs) 10:04, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

@Cbinetti: Reptiliomorpha does not equal Reptilia. Reptiliomorpha includes Reptilia and Mammals as daughter clades. To say that mammals are reptiles without support from reliable sources is original research. Note also that Reptiliomorpha includes tetrapods that are closer to amniotes than to lissamphibians, i.e, not themselves amniotes. - Donald Albury 15:44, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter – 018

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Black-and-yellow broadbill by AryKun
Papuan mountain pigeon by AryKun
List of leporids by PresN
Algerian nuthatch by 2001:4455:364:A800:C13C:8A64:1CEF:F186, reviewed by AryKun
Jungle bush quail by AryKun, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
Lycorma imperialis by Etriusus, reviewed by Ealdgyth
Harry Allan by Dracophyllum, reviewed by Esculenta
Banded bullfrog by DanCherek, reviewed by GhostRiver

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Queen angelfish by LittleJerry
Red panda by LittleJerry and BhagyaMani
List of lagomorphs by PresN
Corsican nuthatch by 2001:4455:364:A800:39A6:A5D8:C903:5E1D
Firefly by Chiswick Chap
Mountain pigeon by AryKun
Bonacynodon by Trilletrollet
Golden eagle by Vaco98

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Administrators' newsletter – March 2022

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WikiProject Tree of Life/Newsletter/019

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Queen angelfish by LittleJerry
Alaska marmot by An anonymous username, not my real name, reviewed by Ealdgyth
Firefly by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Ealdgyth
Afrolychas braueri by OnlyFixingProse, reviewed by An anonymous username, not my real name
Mountain pigeon by AryKun, reviewed by Ealdgyth
Dracopristis by Fossiladder13, reviewed by Ealdgyth
Bonacynodon by Trilletrollet, reviewed by AryKun
Lichexanthone by Esculenta, reviewed by Szmenderowiecki
Yellowtail flounder by Eviolite, reviewed by RecycledPixels
Sexual selection by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by AryKun

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White-headed fruit dove by AryKun
Mountain pigeon by AryKun
Florence Merriam Bailey by GhostRiver
Agelenopsis pennsylvanica by Kline
Hypericum aegypticum by Fritzmann
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Administrators' newsletter – April 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2022).

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  • Access to Special:RevisionDelete has been expanded to include users who have the deletelogentry and deletedhistory rights. This means that those in the Researcher user group and Checkusers who are not administrators can now access Special:RevisionDelete. The users able to view the special page after this change are the 3 users in the Researcher group, as there are currently no checkusers who are not already administrators. (T301928)
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Movement Strategy and Governance News – Issue 6

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Welcome to the sixth issue of Movement Strategy and Governance News! This revamped newsletter distributes relevant news and events about the Movement Charter, Universal Code of Conduct, Movement Strategy Implementation grants, Board of trustees elections and other relevant MSG topics.

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R. Donahue Peebles

I am not sure why you keep posting or change Roy Donahue Peebles mother as white when she clearly is not. A picture of his mother is on his Instagram and census records have her listed as black/negro. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8806:4F0E:1500:8C08:B57:6260:40EA (talk) 00:21, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

You need to cite a reliable source that states that his mother was black. - Donald Albury 00:25, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) Actually, the parents' races were just recently added to the article without a source. I have removed them as unsourced. Schazjmd (talk) 00:31, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

A user you blocked for 31 hours hasn't learned.

First let me preface by saying my personal conspiracy theory: That user could totally be a bot.
That out of the way, the user Oldhedge, which you blocked for 31 hours, is back to doing the same things you blocked them for full force.

Additional details:

  • Have you wondered where they get their poorly or fully unsourced content?
    Well they get it by Google translating Wikipedia articles from other languages, of course!
  • Have you ever wondered where they get the weird source here and there that has nothing to do with the content they translated?
    Well so did I, and I have no idea because it's not the one from the page they translated, but this account has recently done the same thing (revert_1, revert_2, revert_3).
  • Do I think they're the same person?
    Well I find the similar behaviour pretty suspicious, and in fact I thought it was a previous serial Google translator (this one), although more experienced people have told me that the behaviour does not quite match (link) and the completely unrelated reference thing is new these 2 accounts and both accounts sometimes change thigs just enough that it isn't the exact output of Google Translate.

Anyways, I don't plan on pursuing this any further (be at AIV or SPI), I just don't feel confident I really understand how to do it. But I hope my information (and my notice that they're still doing it) helps you in deciding what to do further.
I really hope they're not bots/semi-scripted, but I really have no idea how the reference mistakes could happen naturally... – 2804:F14:C060:8A01:CFC:6406:D953:B87F (talk) 09:58, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter – 020

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List of ochotonids by PresN
Guadeloupe woodpecker by OnlyFixingProse, reviewed by Ealdgyth
Magnetoreception by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Mover of molehills
Macauley Island by Jo-Jo Eumerus, reviewed by Ealdgyth
Black-breasted buttonquail by Casliber, reviewed by Ealdgyth
Florence Merriam Bailey by GhostRiver, reviewed by SquareInARoundHole

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Black-breasted buttonquail by Casliber
List of birds of Tuvalu by AryKun
List of cingulates by PresN
List of didelphimorphs by PresN
Stegotherium by Larrayal
Resplendent quetzal by SadAttorney613
Electroreception and electrogenesis by Chiswick Chap
Muja (alligator) by Amanuensis Balkanicus
Punctelia graminicola by Esculenta
Siegfried Huneck by Esculenta
Abiogenesis by Chiswick Chap

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2022

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2022

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  • Administrators using the mobile web interface can now access Special:Block directly from user pages. (T307341)
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Where should I post about a discussion as to whether the BLP alert actually reflects the wording of the sanction?

See this discussion. Is there really an issue? Thanks. Doug Weller talk 14:37, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: While I have some BLPs on my watchlist, I am not particularly active in the area. I also strained my back a couple of days ago, and the muscle relaxant I'm taking leaves me groggy enough that I probably shouldn't be trying to parse anything in discretionary sanctions. - Donald Albury 18:27, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Sorry to hear that. Take care of yourself. Doug Weller talk 18:30, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2022).

Technical news

  • user_global_editcount is a new variable that can be used in abuse filters to avoid affecting globally active users. (T130439)

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Sock master returns

Howdy. Now we've got 'two' new ones & again, being used to compete with each other. IMHO, they're all the same individual -or- two individuals, who are 'bleeping' around with the rest of us. PS: I've requested page protection for the 10+ pages, he/she or they are targeting. GoodDay (talk) 11:04, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

@GoodDay: Focus of content was obvious, and I have blocked them. Tschrwd may be the same as Tschrwh, but I'm not ready to block them without more evidence.- Donald Albury 12:11, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Movement Strategy and Governance News – Issue 7

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Welcome to the 7th issue of Movement Strategy and Governance News! The newsletter distributes relevant news and events about the implementation of Wikimedia's Movement Strategy recommendations, other relevant topics regarding Movement governance, as well as different projects and activities supported by the Movement Strategy and Governance (MSG) team of the Wikimedia Foundation.

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  • Movement sustainability: Wikimedia Foundation's annual sustainability report has been published. (continue reading)
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  • Safety and inclusion: updates on the revision process of the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines. (continue reading)
  • Equity in decisionmaking: reports from Hubs pilots conversations, recent progress from the Movement Charter Drafting Committee, and a new white paper for futures of participation in the Wikimedia movement. (continue reading)
  • Stakeholders coordination: launch of a helpdesk for Affiliates and volunteer communities working on content partnership. (continue reading)
  • Leadership development: updates on leadership projects by Wikimedia movement organizers in Brazil and Cape Verde. (continue reading)
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  • Innovate in free knowledge: high-quality audiovisual resources for scientific experiments and a new toolkit to record oral transcripts. (continue reading)
  • Evaluate, iterate, and adapt: results from the Equity Landscape project pilot (continue reading)
  • Other news and updates: a new forum to discuss Movement Strategy implementation, upcoming Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election, a new podcast to discuss Movement Strategy, and change of personnel for the Foundation's Movement Strategy and Governance team. (continue reading)

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Unrecognized groups

Hi Don, I restored the Accawmacke group with a citation. List of unrecognized tribes in the United States is a unique and incredibly valuable resource on the web to identify these organizations as being completely unrecognized. Totally agree with you that listings entries link to self-published and/or promotional websites, but these groups covered in small town newspapers all the time. Hopefully, instead of just accepting anything they are told verbatim, journalists will make precursory searches to understand that these groups are innumerable and not recognized by any outside authority or by Native Americans (exceptions, of course, with legitimate Californian tribes). That's why I try to help the list be as complete as possible. Yuchitown (talk) 18:40, 29 July 2022 (UTC)Yuchitown

@Yuchitown: I think is was both the slickness of the page and the prominent donation appeal that made me unsure about allowing the link. In any case, I'm fine with deferring to your judgement. Donald Albury 19:12, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Totally agree with you that it is inappropriate to link to self-published websites. Yuchitown (talk) 20:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)Yuchitown

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Arbcom case

Hi Donald - hope you are well. On the current case, under JPL's topic ban, you've posted "As I have decided to not support a site ban for Lugnuts, I will not do so here". You've not yet commented on my site ban, and was wondering if this was an oversight? Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:54, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
One year!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:24, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).

Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
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  • The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
  • Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)

Arbitration

  • The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous

  • You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
  • Wikimania 2022 is taking place virtually from 11 August to 14 August. The schedule for wikimania is listed here. There are also a number of in-person events associated with Wikimania around the world.
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A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar
For your recent content work, nice work! Andre🚐 17:09, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Not a sock but

maybe the other co-chief?[1] Doug Weller talk 11:11, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: I wish whoever it is would engage on a talk page. I picked up the impression somewhere that people who identify as Apalachee are not all supporters of the Talimali Band organization. Perhaps something internal to the Talimali Band. - Donald Albury 12:58, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Could be. Doug Weller talk 14:16, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Liberland

I have made an edit in Liberland, which was reverted for "citing unreliable source" and "source not pointing out to the information". I have cited two sources, one in English, one in Croatian. The Croatian source does almost verbatim say what I wrote in the edit. I was very careful about it. A casual trip to Google Translate will provide you with adequate evidence. I have re-reverted the change whilst removing the less relevant English citation which doesn't include the text in question.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Michalptacnik (talk • contribs) 03:41, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Remember this editor?

[2] and Talk:Yaroslav Osmomysl Doug Weller talk 18:13, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

They've mentioned you now. Doug Weller talk 09:56, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2022

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  • A discussion is open to define a process by which Vector 2022 can be made the default for all users.
  • An RfC is open to gain consensus on whether Fox News is reliable for science and politics.

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Arbitration

  • An arbitration case regarding Conduct in deletion-related editing has been closed. The Arbitration Committee passed a remedy as part of the final decision to create a request for comment (RfC) on how to handle mass nominations at Articles for Deletion (AfD).
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Wikipedia, fuente no fiable.

Si la Wikipedia no es una fuente fiable, entonces se debería empezar a borrar MILES de temas que han sido COPY/PASTE de un idioma a otro y que dejarían la web en menos de la mitad de sus temas. Además equivaldría a poner un Copyright, tanto a los temas escritos como a su traducción a otro idioma. No es una crítica hacia usted sino una opinión mía.Jcollmart (talk) 16:25, 5 September 2022 (UTC) Jcollmart (talk) 16:29, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Amhara people page

I don’t know how to edit a close Wikipedia page because every time when I’m trying to copy and past a source it doesn’t send it. May you open the page for 24 hours or even less then that so I can put up the sources? 213.137.70.155 (talk) 12:51, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I will not open the page for you to edit. Please read WP:Edit requests, and then leave an edit request on Talk:Amhara people explaining what edits you want to have occur on Amhara people. Please include any changes in wording you want to see, and provide full information on any sources you want to see cited in the article. If your request is deemed appropriate, someone will edit the article to incorporate your request. - Donald Albury 13:11, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Editing sources on the page of the Amhara people

Hi, I just finished editing the sources on the talk page of the Amhara people. Hope someone from the administrations will check it out. 46.31.102.64 (talk) 14:31, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Amhara page

I did edit request on the page of the Amhara people, but so far no response from the administrations. Many sources were removed from this page. 213.137.71.117 (talk) 21:24, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

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Flag of St. Augustine, Florida

FYI, somebody created templates for decade and years for St. Augustine, Florida in the commons that contained blank files of the flag of the city. I just thought an appropriate link to that flag would be helpful, -------User:DanTD (talk) 17:24, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

@DanTD: I see no indication on the city's web page that St. Augustine even has an official flag. Without a reliable source for the design/appearance and official status of a flag for the city, we cannot show one. As for the source you cited, Wikipedia does not accept blogs as reliable sources, except when produced by an established subject-matter expert (i.e., someone who an established record of publishing about the subject in reliable sources) (see Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published sources). As a side note, there are people out there that have created unofficial designs for flags for political entities that do not have a flag, and then uploaded them to Commons, so even if you find a flag for a political entity on Commons (or anywhere else), it may be a hoax. - Donald Albury 17:41, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
So the Flags of the World website is merely considered a blog? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 18:04, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
@DanTD: It is a group blog. See the Wikipedia article, Flags of the World (website), and particularly the "Disclaimer" section. - Donald Albury 18:16, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Okay, you have a point. But what if I found other sources confirming that this is the flag? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 18:38, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
They need to be reputable sources. Donald Albury 20:20, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
So, Wayfinder isn't reputable even if it shows the actual photograph? That doesn't leave too many options, other than driving to St. Augustine and seeking out an actual city flag for a photograph. I guess I'll have to make sure they've recovered from Hurricane Ian before I can do that. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 22:52, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
@DanTD: I have opened a discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Waymarking on whether waymarking.com is a reliable source for the flag of St. Augustine. - Donald Albury 23:28, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
I hope Donald doesn't mind if I interject here. I don't think Waymarking is a reliable source, per WP:USERGENERATED, because the content is user-created. People who want to add unsourced or improperly sourced information on WP cause endless hassles. I have a particular interest in the city of St. Augustine because I've lived there or at the beach since 1965. I called City Hall to ask about a city flag and the person I spoke to did her best to help me. She said there is indeed an official flag of St. Augustine, but that there is no mention of it on the city website.
She referred me to Resolution number 1632 of the city to adopt an official flag, introduced by a city commissioner whose name she gave me (I had her repeat it), but I can find no mention online of the resolution or of the commissioner she named, which doesn't seem right. He's not on the list of the present commissioners, so I don't know about that. I asked if it would be possible to add information about the flag to the city's website, and she said she'd see what she could do. Carlstak (talk) 23:47, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Any word?

Any word from your family or friends in Cape Coral? Carlstak (talk) 23:30, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

@Carlstak: Everyone is safe. My aunt is at her grandson's because her unit had no power or water. - Donald Albury 23:43, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
That's good news. Hope your aunt gets her power and water back soon. Carlstak (talk) 00:06, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
I just read that 98% of Cape Coral's power structure was obliterated and will need complete reconstruction. That is truly awful. Carlstak (talk) 12:16, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
My cousin and her husband, who live on the north side of Cape Coral, evacuated to North Carolina, but haven't been able to return home because of blocked roads. Word is that flood waters knocked down the doors to the house, and they may need a new floor. We just had a family party at my aunt's house in Cape Coral a couple of weeks ago. She had sold it and moved out of it three days later. - Donald Albury 01:05, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
I don't think "lucky" would be the right word, but your cousin and her husband were fortunate that their house wasn't destroyed, and wow, that was good timing on your aunt's part. I'm glad they're okay. If it looks like we're going to get a direct hit by a hurricane in the future, I will definitely leave the island; it's just too vulnerable, and seeing the pictures of the devastation in SW Florida really drove that home anew. Carlstak (talk) 02:09, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
I have great respect for hurricanes. The eye of Wilma passed over us in 2005. My wife and I spent a half-hour leaning against our front door because we were afraid it might blow in. And that was a low Cat-3 or high Cat-2 at the time. I heard stories from both of my parents about bad storms. My father was trapped outside when he went out into the eye of the 1926 Miami hurricane. Donald Albury 12:59, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Re. Your resignation

I wanted to say thank you for your service. I voted for you in the last election, and never once did I feel that my vote was misplaced; however, I also understand why you feel that resigning one year early is the most prudent course for you to take, and I respect your decision. I know I'm not the only one who feels this way.

I know you still have a couple months left on the committee, but I still wanted to wish you luck with all of your future endeavors, and I look forward to seeing you around in the years to come. Kurtis (talk) 19:15, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

  • I'd like to chime in here and thank you for offering to serve, plus especially thank you for acknowledging the need to resign at this particular time, if such is true. I respect you more for moving forward, not less for resigning. You are admired and trusted; holding the seat is insignificant compared to being considered worthy of the seat, which I do and you are. BusterD (talk) 20:44, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Please provide a substantive rationale when you revert

I write to suggest that "you need to propose these changes on the talk page before implementing them," standing alone, is never a sufficient explanation for a revert. See wp:PGBOLD ("you should not remove any change solely on the grounds that there was no formal discussion indicating consensus for the change before it was made") and wp:DRNC, - Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 14:42, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

@Butwhatdoiknow: I saw a very new user who had made just nine edits, six of which were to Wikipedia:Avoid instruction creep. I think such an inexperienced user should be cautious about editing project documents. Donald Albury 15:34, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
I cannot dispute anything you have said here. However, I still don't know what, if anything, you thought was wrong with the edit (as opposed to the editor). - Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 02:09, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
@Butwhatdoiknow: You are right, I had no specific problem with the edit. It has been a long time (something like 16 years) since I last did that sort of thing, and I knew it was outside norms. I doubt I will do that again. - Donald Albury 12:58, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for considering my concerns with an open mind. - Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 15:47, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

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Removing Miami Beach Edits

I can understand you removing something because I didn't have all the citations. However on the other matter, you were going to have to accept the fact that you7 are entirely incorrect about your recent "cleansing of history." I vehemently object to removing the true history of a Sundown town, hiding and allowing a PR team to erase a legacy of racism. My sources include government documents, original newspaper articles and the research of the most prominent historians on Miami Beach. Since I was the historian of information for a decade for the largest employer, the hospital, and worked for the City was mertoritousicite three times and promoted four times, as well as when working for the hospital having been appointed to sworn positions of authority when I put back the truth you better have a darn good reason for removing it next time. I worry that you don't recognize propaganda. After studying propaganda in graduate school; perhaps, I'm better at spotting it than you. Or maybe you just don't know your of Florida at all for our coast. Because to remove what was put is to completely sanitize the truth two of her degree which makes me question whether you believe in equanimity. I won't stand for it and will appeal. The-OG-Truth (talk) 22:02, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Atlantic, Suwannee River and Gulf Railway

Hi Donald Albury. You recently converted a text reference to use {{sfn}} in the article Atlantic, Suwannee River and Gulf Railway. The reference is for "Turner 2008", but only "Turner 2003" and "Turner 2012" have cites in the article. You originally added the plain text reference in 2018, do you remember which work it should actually be pointing to? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 11:47, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

@ActivelyDisinterested: Better yet, I have both on my shelf. I'll look at them later today to sort that out. Thanks for pointing this out. - Donald Albury 13:24, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Tallahassee climate data

Hello and good day Donald Albury, I got the Tallahassee data in question from the National Weather Service Tallahassee, which I believe was cited in the weather box as well. It is available as monthly normals (select daily/monthly normals and then monthly for Tallahassee Airport). https://www.weather.gov/wrh/climate?wfo=tae I believe the data I put is more reliable than the data currently on the page because it comes straight from the city's National Weather Service page, which also doesn't have the data currently on the page. ClimatologyEditor (talk) 19:43, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

@ClimatologyEditor: I'm sorry if my reversion seemed abrupt, but "Climate" sections are problematic and often subject to random unsourced changes. None of the sources cited for the climate section in the Tallahassee article were of any use to me when I tried to check them. Two of them were pages for starting searches, and the third was an unlabelled table that I could not interpret. NOAA's websites for climate data are messy. In any case, I have checked the data following your link, which, unfortunately, was not obvious to me when I looked earlier, and I have reverted myself, restoring your edit. My apologies for this mess. Donald Albury 20:39, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

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Indigenity

Hello, just wanted to say thank you for your response. I was wondering if it should be mentioned regardless in terms of the importance of indigenity. 208.127.190.114 (talk) 20:28, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

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Pensacola News Journal

It is unclear to me why citations to the Pensacola News Journal, the Gainesville Sun, and the Daily Cartoonist were deemed "unreliable." - Template:Unsigned -->— Preceding unsigned comment added by Builder29 (talk • contribs) 20:47, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

@Builder29: Rick's Blog is not a reliable spource (see WP:USERGENERATED). The opinion column by Alex Andrade is an opinion piece, reliable only for attributing his own opinions to him as a source, and cannot be used to support the statement Local officials have publicly expressed concern over the paper's management decisions hurting its readership. (see WP:RSEDITORIAL). - Donald Albury 21:39, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
I agree regarding those citations you reference, and wanted to confirm that citations to the Pensacola News Journal, the Gainesville Sun, and the Daily Cartoonist were deleted because they were associated with the same entry, not because they were deemed unreliable. Builder29 (talk) 22:00, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
@Builder29: I saw that you restored content that had just been deleted because of unreliable sources, and when I looked at the content in question, I saw the unacceptable citations. Unfortunately, I did not scroll further down and missed the other part of the content. Donald Albury 22:34, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Ping

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Untitled third The Strangers Sequel

Hi there, I was just wondering why were all references to the site IsTamaraHome.net removed from the page for the third Strangers sequel. Major details of the movie, primarily the character names, were announced and confirmed by the site through a lot of research. That site was the original source of the information which Collider then used for their article without sourcing. It's understandable that Collider is obviously a much bigger site than IsTamaraHome but it's not fair to them, as the original source, that all references to their site were removed from the page. I'm part of the small group that runs the site and it's very disheartening that all our work is being ignored especially given that no big named sites had revealed any of that and it wasn't until after we did, through our research, that Collider than posted the article. Screamfan1999 (talk) 03:48, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

@Screamfan1999: You need to discuss that article on its talk page, Talk:Untitled third The Strangers film. But first, please read Wikipedia:Reliable sources, and in particular, the section at Wikipedia:Reliable sources#Questionable and self-published sources. - Donald Albury 12:30, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Request: Would you recommend Lakeview Academy article be deleted?

@Donald Albury Hello. A year ago, I asked you about a source on a school page and whether or not is was considered "reliable." At the end of our conversation, you wrote, "While not germane to this noticeboard, I will also note that, in my opinion, the article about the school fails to meet the requirements of the general notability guideline, and might be deleted if nominated for deletion. - Donald Albury 21:48, 17 February 2022 (UTC)" A year later, the article is still very sparse. I work for the school and am hesitant to recommend the article be deleted as I do not want anyone to question it as a conflict of interest. Would you be willing to recommend the article for Lakeview Academy be deleted as it contains very little content? If not, would you be so kind as to recommend the best way for me to proceed to make the ask for deletion? Thank you for your time and efforts. Smileykaye (talk) 18:44, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

I seldom nominate articles for deletion (maybe once a year or so), and in the last few years, only for strong cases, such as hoaxes and non-existent populated places. I am therefore reluctant to nominate an article for deletion at the request of another editor. Sorry. - Donald Albury 19:15, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Seeing this request I have boldly created an AfD discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lakeview Academy. User:Smileykaye is welcome to comment and make their case for deletion there, my nomination is purely procedural. I very much appreciate how Smileykaye has fully disclosed their connection to the institution along the way. BusterD (talk) 19:42, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Spanish River High School

Hi Donald, thank you for the notice. I also want to add to the article the Shark logo that appears in the following official link: https://www.spanishriverhs.org/. Do you think that is possible under Wikipedia rules ?. Regards. Tecmo (talk) 22:16, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

@Tecmo: I am not involved with the use of logos, so I will just point you to the guidance at Wikipedia:Logos. Donald Albury 23:30, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
Thanks Tecmo (talk) 23:47, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

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https://www.local10.com/news/local/2023/02/16/native-american-activists-want-digging-to-stop-at-brickell-archaeological-site/ and [4] and [ User contributions for BrickellResiden]. I'm not sure if there should be something at Tequesta Indians mentioning their objections. Doug Weller talk 14:28, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: I think I will stay away from that, unless it becomes a problem. Personally, I am not sure where it would fit. Donald Albury 15:01, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Agreed. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 15:21, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

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Port St. Lucie

If Indian River County is its own MSA and it's not part of the Port St. Lucie CSA, then Sebastian, Florida and Vero Beach are not part of the Port St. Lucie CSA, as they are the largest cities in Indian River County. The data from the two census sources appear to be confusing, as it looks like there is indeed a Port St. Lucie-Sebastian-Vero Beach area, but if so, then Indian River County is a part of that area. I partially reverted your changes but feel free to fix my edits if I made any mistakes in trying to improve the Port St. Lucie article again. LudditeOne (talk) 02:17, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

@LudditeOne: I have replied on Talk:Port St. Lucie, Florida. I'll be adding to my reply after I have had a chance to do some research. Donald Albury 14:41, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
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