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This is an archive of comments left during 2007. For the current discussion page, see User talk:Dystopos. For previously archived discussions, see User Talk:Dystopos/Archive 1 (2004-2005) or User Talk:Dystopos/Archive 2 (2006).

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article List of Alabama Metropolitan Areas, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. AlaGuy 23:44, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, I know. Someone created a duplicate after I created this one. The one that they created is better so, I figured, why not rid the world of this bad one. Thanx AlaGuy 04:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia, Dystopos! However, your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove spam from Wikipedia. If you were trying to insert a good link, please accept my creator's apologies, but please note that the link you added in is on my spam blacklist and should not be included in Wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia's external links policy for more information. If the link was to an Imageshack or Photobucket image, please read Wikipedia's image tutorial on how to use a more appropriate method to insert the image into an article. If your link was genuine spam, please note that inserting spam into Wikipedia is against policy. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! Shadowbot 23:51, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop adding inappropriate links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming and will be removed. Thanks. Shadowbot 00:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afaraid that there are no CC lisences that are directly compatable with GFDL. thus CC text can't be put on wikipedia unless it is also GFDL.Geni 01:31, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The above warnings are, in my opinion, misapplied. The inclusion of Flickr.com on Shadowbot's spam blacklist may have merit, but it is not supported by the cited policy (WP:EL). The result is that the bot is enforcing "secret rules" and overturning, in this case, good faith edits by an experienced Wikipedia editor. In reverting my attempts to reverse its actions, the bot also assumes that I am editing in bad faith, a judgment no editor should take lightly, especially a bot. --Dystopos 14:41, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
According to the Free Software Foundation most, if not all, CC licenses are GFDL incompatible. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 08:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stepping away

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  • My recent experience in having good faith efforts reverted by automated processes has soured me on Wikipedia as a collaborative project. I believe that in this instance that:
  1. A "bot" has removed useful and acceptable external links from two articles.
  2. The bot makes reference to WP:EL, but its actions go well beyond the guideline developed there by consensus and acts on a privately-kept blacklist.
  3. The bot also reverted good faith and considered attempts to restore the links.
  4. In doing so, the bot warned the good faith editor about spamming Wikipedia. (I believe this to be an assumption of bad faith -- never to be made lightly, especially by automated process).
  5. The subsequent discussion about the bot's behavior revealed a degree of bureaucratic ineptitude which I am loathe to suffer.

Therefore I will be stepping away from Wikipedia indefinitely. --Dystopos 16:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(hm. that didn't last long... --Dystopos 05:37, 15 February 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Linking years

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ok i'll stop. sry. Axle12693 18:17, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mentioning zoned school districts for condominiums

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http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Redmont_Hotel&diff=107253639&oldid=107238620

It would SEEM so, but that's not the case. 1. Many American cities (to be fair, Birmingham isn't one of them) are served by multiple school districts. I.E. the city of Houston (where I live) has several school districts serving the city limits. 2. School districts typically assign schools to specific subdivisions or addresses. This should be noted for each *notable* condominium and each subdivision of a given city. WhisperToMe 04:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe a paper encyclopedia wouldn't mention such things - but, I do not see the problem with mentioning them on here - especially since, in many neighborhoods, the schools form part of the "identities" of the said neighborhoods.

And, since many neighborhood articles mention the local schools, I thought I would add the same information to individual condominiums, since condominiums, just like platted subdivisions, have permanent residents of all ages.

WhisperToMe 05:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Birmingham City Schools describes the school system, but obviously it does not mention which neighborhoods are zoned to which schools. WhisperToMe 05:20, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did you move the conversation yet? WhisperToMe 05:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the conversation again... I replied to the idea of "the people can find it using the links" - The residents would have to call the school district/business or e-mail the school district/business. WhisperToMe 01:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits to Tulane University

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I was only editing the parts already added to the lore section. These parts are all common myths and lore around Tulane University, as I am a current student. However, how is one supposed to make a section about the massive amount of legends around Tulane that includes sources? There are not meant to be fact; they are legends. I can find a few allusions to them, so I'll be adding back those that I can find. Also, I know that many of these legends and myths are told to touring students and families by the Green Wave Ambassadors. If I gain access to an Ambassador guide that has this information in it, I'll post that. --Bobster687 20:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for comment

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Thanks for your comment on the AfD. Just so you know, I haven't used sockpuppets. The AfD and more are all tied into edits by sockpuppet engaged in cyberstalking. For more info, see User_talk:Alabamaboy#Cyber_stalking_and_harassment. Best, --Alabamaboy 20:55, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick note to say I found your article on Lant quite fascinating. Thank you. Gillyweed 09:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ATT Poll

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Did you realize you put your vote in the 3rd "neutral etc" section? Just asking Johnbod 04:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Alabama Project

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Hi Dystopos! You are receiving this message because we've noticed your excellent edits on Alabama related articles. We need your help at the Alabama WikiProject! We only have a few active members and could use your help. If you're interested, please head over to the project page, add your name, and help us enhance and increase the coverage of Alabama related stories.
 —Preceding unsigned comment added by J. Bryant Evans (talkcontribs) 

RE:User:Birmingham

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Ooops. I just was thinking "Hmm. That doesn't represent anything about Birmingham.". I just didn't know. - PatricknoddyTALK (reply here)|HISTORY 19:38, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Infoboxneeded

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Hi and thanks for the message. While I'd like to have the time to add infoboxes myself, I don't. I find that it is more productive to add the note, and someone — usually someone more interested in the article's subject than I — typically adds the infobox within a week or so.

Also, what I'm mainly trying to do right now is to clean up this category. This category exists to show articles where Template:Infoboxneeded is on the talk page and not the article. Quite often, this template is placed on talk pages where the article already has the right infobox! So I'm trying to clean up alot of this mess.

So right now I'm in cleanup mode, hence the ib needed boxes and not the ib's themselves. I hope this is acceptable. Timneu22 00:37, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mind being "singled out". I guess all my edits are being noticed, and that's good! In life and in Wikipedia, I like to set up others for success — if nothing else, "infoboxneeded" gives inexperienced users a great place to start! Anyway, thanks for not lumping me in with the worst offenders! Timneu22 01:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Paul 'Bear' Bryant

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I have made my argument for the inclusion of information on the talk page of Bear Bryant. I feel that the other user removed info that did not present a biased point of view and added other info(the info about the 'shared' National Championships) that doesn't seem to be commonplace. I would appreciate it if you would comment on my arguments and whether they are valid or not. It does concern me that in the past, the user has vandalized the page that he now is editing, so I am not completely convinced of his intention to 'improve' the page, but think that he could be attempting to subvert the intentions of Wikipedia and damage the article in a different fashion. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.147.77.208 (talkcontribs)

I did offer more information on my views of the edits on the article's talk page if you could read that. And I'm not just some crazed football fan wanteing to defend his team, I have a degree in English Lit, so I know a little about point-of-view. I did not agree with all of the info being removed from the article using the excuse of POV. I haven't edited Wikipedia before, but have used it many times, so I don't have a username and I'm not sure how to sign this. Sorry

post graduation trip

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I have never heard anyone use the phrase "post graduation trip". I went to las vegas about three months ago. Was that a post graduation trip? I am not in highschool anymore. It's a "graduation trip" if it follows or is close to graduation and if it is school sanctioned it's a "school trip"... - Abscissa 23:39, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

userbox?

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Where did you acquire the userbox that counts your number of edits?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kemiv (talkcontribs)

moved to User_talk:Dystopos/FU_archive.

Image:America_World_City.jpg

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I have tagged Image:America_World_City.jpg as {{no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Please also consider using {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. Thank you. MER-C 09:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free use disputed for Image:WackikiWabbit.jpg

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moved to User_talk:Dystopos/FU_archive.

Fair use rationale for Image:Samford univ logo 200px.jpg

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moved to User_talk:Dystopos/FU_archive.

Barnstar

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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your continual efforts to improve the article Film Noir, I, Sharkface217, hereby award you this barnstar. --Sharkface217 04:35, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Question regarding List of counties in Alabama

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It's just a bonus for the reader. For an average reader, it's time consuming to click on the link of the person just to see who he/she is and then click on the "Back" button to get back. A couple of words will not harm the list yet will be beneficial to the reader. It's more of a preference than a requirement, but as you can see many featured county lists use that format: Texas, Wyoming, Vermont. I feel it would be more encyclopedic, too.--Crzycheetah 04:41, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimania in Atlanta!

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Hi! I noticed your involvement on U.S. South-related articles, categories and WikiProjects, and I wanted to let you know about a bid we're formulating to get next year's Wikimania held in Atlanta! If you would like to help, be sure to sign your name to the "In Atlanta" section of the Southeast team portion of the bid if you're in town, or to the "Outside Atlanta" section if you still want to help but don't live in the city or the suburbs. If you would like to contribute more, please write on my talk page, the talk page of the bid, or join us at the #wikimania-atlanta IRC chat on freenode.org. Have a great day!

P.S. While this is a template for maximum efficiency, I would appreciate a note on my talk page so I know you got the message, and what you think. This is time-sensitive, so your urgent cooperation is appreciated. :) Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 09:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is a generic template I'm using to inform people of the bid. I know you live in Alabama but I figured it might be of interest to you anyway. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 09:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

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FLC guidelines say that an FLC can remain open if an article has no opposition but not enough support for a pass, or if there is an active discussion. And, considering that there had been no edits made to the page for four days, I did not think that either of those requirements were fulfilled. Finish addressing the concerns, then you can give an FLC another try. -- Scorpion0422 23:46, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BhamWiki userbox?

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Hy, Dis. Would you object to a userbox for BhamWiki contributors to show off on Wikipedia? If not, I'll be glad to whip one up. May I use the site logo? -- Rob C. alias Alarob 16:01, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia

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Hi. I just read your thoughts on trivia and I was wondering if you would be interested in this.

Here is a wikiproject proposal for trivia and a fresh look at trivia policy by the admins. Support the wikiproject proposal. Add your name to the list here: [wiki project proposal for wikitrivia]

Please send this link to other users that you feel would be interested. Thanks Ozmaweezer 18:47, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BhamWiki is down

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Wanted to make sure you know BhamWiki is down as of 9:15 CST on 22 Oct 2007. I got the following error at the main page:

A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

(SQL query hidden)

from within function "SiteStats::doLoad". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'brontes.bhamsite_stats' doesn't exist (brontes.bhamwiki.com)".

-- Rob C. alias Alarob 14:18, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Girod Street Cemetery

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A Proposed Deletion template has been added to the article Girod Street Cemetery, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of the page. Karanacs 18:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for offering to create a proper stub for this individual; the only reason I deleted it was because some vandal had created a very rude page under that name and I was tracing the links before deleting the page (I was working on the "better safe than sorry" principle). I'm sorry for your extra work but I'm happy to see that someone will be posting the correct information associated with this name, it's a net gain for the encyclopedia. If there's something I can do to help, let me know. Accounting4Taste:talk 05:36, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, the only other link I deleted was on List of people from Birmingham, Alabama. Again, sorry for your extra trouble, and I'm glad to know this is a real person with notability. Accounting4Taste:talk 05:39, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, fantastic job, and much better than the one whose nicest suggestion was that she was a "hooker". I'm not expert either, but the cites look pretty good to me. I'll give it a going-over with my copy editor hat on, but you've done a great job getting it into shape. Accounting4Taste:talk 06:19, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Andrew Henry's Meadow

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Thank you for letting me know; I've made the change accordingly. Happy editing! —Erik (talkcontrib) - 01:50, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]