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Discussion at Template talk:3D software#Classification added on 2 June 2014

You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:3D software#Classification added on 2 June 2014. Thanks. Codename Lisa (talk) 11:23, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Epicgenius (talk) 11:45, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Can you please check this edit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=The_Hurricane_Poster_Project&diff=prev&oldid=610990657 This is weird-check where the current link goes/ I would have tried to fix it myself but saw the StiKi and let you know thingy, so I thought you might want to check it yourself? 24.0.133.234 (talk) 21:10, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

• WP:STIKI is just a tool that I use to counteract vandalism; it doesn't make the edit more important, and reverting it will not create an edit filter tag like that generated when one reverts edits of, say, User:ClueBot NG. Besides, this edit looks fine, so I have reverted. Epicgenius (talk) 23:02, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

TY-for some reason the STIKI edit was sending to a Chinese language site that looked like it could be an expired domain or I have no idea what----but it looks OK now and ty for the clue:)about cluebot24.0.133.234 (talk) 01:32, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

No problem. By the way, I've edited your comment so it doesn't become a <hr> tag, which will make a horizontal line across this page and break the discussion. Epicgenius (talk) 01:30, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Invitation to vote on an article

hello. since you are an editor of the article Ammar ibn Yasir, would you be interested in voting for it to make it a featured article or not? thank you for your time Grandia01 (talk) 12:58, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your participation

Epicgenius, I would like to take this moment and thank you for taking part in my RfA that happened a while ago. Although it didn't turn out as I had planned, I certainly appreciated all the comments and suggestions given by you and other people. I will learn from all of them and will hopefully run again someday when I'm fully ready. Thank you. TheGeneralUser (talk) 13:35, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Epicgenius (talk) 13:38, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Your revert in associative property

You have reverted the insertion of tr:Birleşmeli özellik by an IP user, at the end of Associative property, with an edit summary of "mistake?". In fact, this is a link to the Turkish version of the article. The "language" links on the left of the page linked to an empty article. Although I know nothing about Turkish, I have edited the language page to replace the wrong Turkish link by the correct one provided by the IP user. D.Lazard (talk) 14:38, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I was initially going to edit the Wikidata link, but I though that since there was already a Turkish entry there, the link already existed. Epicgenius (talk) 14:40, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

MGM/UA

I redirected it to the proper section in the main MGM article; no need for seven days on this. Hope that's OK for you. Nate • (chatter) 18:54, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

It's all right with me. Thanks for redirecting it to the proper article. Epicgenius (talk) 18:59, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Aquiline nose - what to do with the editor hidden under an IP address?

Hi. Thank you so much for your contribution in the Aquiline nose article. However, the unknown user who is hiding under the IP adress is making a lot of damage. Check this discussion for more, I described the problem speciffically: [1]. I was also trying to make the article protected, but I still don't know how to do it correctly: [2] However, as I see you are an experienced user. Could you help me in trying to save the version of the article with the book referrence? The book which is the source of the knowledge is written by a professional anthropologist Jan Czekanowski - one of first anthropologists ever, who recognized the Armenoid race and correctly described the racial mixed types of Europe. I'd like to ask you, if you could help me in fighting with vandalism in the "aquiline nose" article, as I see, this annontmous IP user is permanently posting the Ripley "source", when Ripley was an economist, not an anthropologist at all. He was innacurate and falesly recognized the Teutonic race, while in fact it was Dinaric race, what he described as "Teutonic". Moreover, he posts pictures of people like Jennifer Aniston, who obviously don't have an aquiline nose. The user is trying to destroy the data. Thank you for your support. Tell me, how can I make the article protected? Is there a chance? Yatzhek (talk) 14:03, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

• If I may butt in for a second: there is no such thing as an editor "hiding under an IP address", anymore (or less) than you and I are hiding under our user names. BTW, that gallery is silly. An article with one single source and a thousand images, some of which very doubtful? That's not good article writing. Drmies (talk) 14:09, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

How did you find this talk page Drmies? What I can say is, the user is HIDING under the IP address ,but I will soon get to know who is this, because I will make an IP investigation and I will know all the IP logs of that user, and which accounts are connected to him. Then the sockpuppet accounts will be either warned or blocked permanently. Second thing - one source is better than no source. The IP user gives Ripley as a source, while this man a) was not an anthropologist b) was harshly criticesed by the anthropological environment c) his "Teutonic race" was in fact Dinaric race, but he didn't know that while he didn't recognize the Armenoid race at all. Czekanowski (the author of the valueable source given) was an anthropologist, who recognized the Armenoid race as one of the first. Btw - the gallery which was in the sourced version of the page included ONLY people with truely aquiline noses, who are know for having such noses, while the gallery composed by this annonymous IP included mostly Nordic people or people who have snub noses. A SNUB or STRAIGHT nose with a tiny bump is NOT an aquiline nose! Yatzhek (talk) 14:18, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

There are editors who watch my page, so they are alerted each time an edit comes up in their edit watchlist. I will write more later, but I think you should discuss with the IP on the article talkpage. Epicgenius (talk) 14:32, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Yep. No, Yatzhek, there will no talk of "hiding": there is no hiding. Now, "IP hopping", you can say that, but even that can't be an accusation: some internet users hop without wanting to. Having said that, you're making some kind of content argument here, but for me that's neither here nor there--I just blocked the IP for edit warring since that's what they're doing; Epicgenius just beat me to it with their revert (thanks). As for the content--well, I'll say it as nicely as I can, the article is misguided and not well done. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 14:38, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

One more thing: "socking" can really only happen with registered accounts. It's a pretty clear fact that this person has edited under multiple IPs, but unless there is overlap (i.e., different IPs being used simultaneously) there is no socking, and IP addresses are almost never blocked permanently. There are other ways to counter disruption, but you are confusing/conflating a few issues here and that muddies the water. So unless you discover an actual account that has been making these edits there's no reason to speak of socking, or to act on that. Drmies (talk) 14:46, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

• Epicgenius, another IP address (same person) just reverted. I have semiprotected the article, but that means I can't really revert them to reinstate my own edits. You're a pretty objective editor--please go in and see if a. it is reasonable to revert their edit and b. if it is reasonable to restore my two edits. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:49, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
  • @Drmies: No problem; I'll try to revert them and restore your edits. Thanks for blocking the IP user and adding your two cents here. Epicgenius (talk) 14:51, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
    • No, thank you for helping out. It's a fascinating topic, by the way--really, read Oroonoko. I'm finding some decent sourcing as well. Drmies (talk) 15:26, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
      • I will, thanks. Epicgenius (talk) 15:31, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

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All right, thank you. It's not that I don't know how to fill out bare URLs, but I'll fill out the references anyway. Epicgenius (talk) 16:57, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	A fascinating topic rich in history. It’s good to know that articles related to the New York City Subway are well monitored and kept up-to-date – much credit to a good wiki friend of mine. If anyone were to deserve this custom barnstar it is you. Thank you for your prolific efforts. — MusikAnimal talk 00:45, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: Thanks! It's the people at WP:NYCPT who also deserve some credit though... I just help out. Epicgenius (talk) 00:51, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

G train article

Hi, I removed that paragraph from the article noting the recent service increase for two reasons, 1) The "Route controversy" section already mentions this service increase with the same two sources, so there is no need to repeat this twice, and 2) The "Service history" section should only mention service or route pattern changes (e.g. if it gets extend or cut back, further into Queens or Brooklyn, starts running express at a certain section, etc.) Frequency of scheduled service changes a lot (like in 2010 when practically all trains in the city saw less frequent service on weekends), but we're not going to mention each instinct that happens, are we? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.87.211.36 (talk) 01:42, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Actually, the train headways were what caused controversy on the service back in 2010. I understand that it can be removed because it's so common in this subway system, but the increase of train headways is widely publicized and possibly the biggest service change since that of June 25, 2010. (There's also other improvements, too, which I had yet to add before you removed it.) Epicgenius (talk) 01:50, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

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New page for "Vanity Addresses"

Hi EG. With many of the new developments in NYC now using 'vanity addresses' (invented addresses based on the location, meant to sound better than XXX Yth Avenue or XXX Yth Street). This is not a new thing - Rockefeller Center was one of the first of these. Do you think this topic is suitable to create a Wiki entry for? Also I'm sure the list of places using vanity addresses over the world is huge so how might we begin to list some of them without it becoming a free-for-all? Thanks, Boingster (talk) 16:38, 11 June 2014 (UTC)Boingster

@Boingster: Yes, I think it's notable enough. All you have to do now is identify some reliable sources and write the article. Thanks, Epicgenius (talk) 16:59, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

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Google Street View in the United States

Hello, wanted to let you know that I reported 151.227.80.29 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) who were removing and reverting your edits from Google Street View in the United States has gone blocked. A.Minkowiski ^{_Lets t@lk} 12:48, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

@A.Minkowiski: Thank you for reporting them. However, the user under 151.227.80.29 isn't finished yet. Recently, they created two socks, Uyasifosaf789 (talk · contribs) and Hiaofubysaifno8 (talk · contribs), both of which have been indef-blocked. You may want to check with Smalljim (talk · contribs) to see if the IP's block can be lengthened for block evasion, as per the blocking policy. Epicgenius (talk) 12:54, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

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possible mistake on hapa reverting

Hello,

Regarding reverting edit to "hapa": http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Hapa&diff=612652624&oldid=612651509

There was a lot of politicking going on between users regarding the word definition. I chose to clean up the intro by using the Oxford dictionary definition of the word. I suggest users wishing to argue the word's origins and use do so in the article's body.

Okay. Epicgenius (talk) 18:21, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

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You were wrong about your edit; here is my news source proof

Dear Epicgenius:

You changed my write-up about Mayor Eric Garcetti's F-Bomb, but did not explain what or why.

I gather you changed the part about his holding up a Bud Light bottle, to (incorrectly) his holding a water bottle. Here is just one of many news sources that said it was one of those tall, thin, aluminum Bud Light bottles. http://www.myfoxla.com/story/25791734/mayor-garcetti-drops-the-f-bomb-during-la-kings-rally-speech

Further, the Bud Light bottle is correct because that was the purpose of the Mayor's comment.

Please let me know where this is wrong or not constructive; it was a topic of national discussion, in context and accurate.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dog Boy Dan (talk • contribs) 02:23, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

@Dog Boy Dan: If you have a source, by all means feel free to re-add this back into the article. Epicgenius (talk) 02:26, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

HERE IS THE NEWS SOURCE: http://www.myfoxla.com/story/25791734/mayor-garcetti-drops-the-f-bomb-during-la-kings-rally-speech

FURTHER, YOU ADDED FALSE INFORMATION ABOUT IT BEING A WATER BOTTLE. Respectfully, you should not add information if you have no basis for doing it. You should also not delete information about Garcetti's "Rules of Decorum" when he was city council president, because it was connected to the city of LA losing a federal 1st Amendment lawsuit. Please take this in the right spirit, but it is disheartening to see you edit things where you are uninformed and don't bother to research the mainstream news source I provided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dog Boy Dan (talk • contribs) 02:32, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I said that you can re-add it. I am not opposed to re-adding the info with the source. Epicgenius (talk) 02:34, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Revisions to Manhattan article

I had deleted irrelevant and false information about $1.2 trillion GDP being directly related to Wall Street. This info was for GDP output by NY City. It does not belong in the Manhattan article. It can be included in the NY City article, along with all of the referenced citations, which are applicable for NY City or are adquately covered by other citations specifically for Wall Street.

A picture caption correctly made reference to "TriBeCa" with a link to the "Tribeca" Wikpedia article. "TriBeCa" is also used elsewhere in the Manhattan aricle. It had been this way for a long time. The picture caption was recently changed to "Tribeca" with an unnecessary redirect link from "Tribeca, Manhattan" to the "Tribeca" article. This change added no value to the article and only added more unnecessary bytes to the article. I changed it back.

If you have any questions or suggestions, please let me know.

I hope that we can work together. Thanks 67.84.204.32 (talk) 18:01, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

OK, I have added the GDP info to the NYC article. thanks. Epicgenius (talk) 18:12, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

The update that you made to the Manhattan article is still incorrect and very confusing. It also really does not belong in the Manhattan article. It is better to keep that GDP info completely in the New York City article. Editors move information from one Wikipedia article to another all of the time based on clear explanations that they are moving this info in the edit history. They do not then leave the same information in the original article. It would have been better for you and I to address and agree on what the updates should be rather than simply going ahead and make the revisions.

Ultimately, what you have updated either needs to removed completely or radically changed. I would suggest it simply be removed and the updated sentence below included, with a note in the Edit History that the GDP info about the NY City metropolitan area is in the New York City article in the Economy section. So far, no one else has made any comments on this proposed change. None of the articles for the other boroughs has any NY City GDP info. It does not belong in the Manhattan article.

"Wall Street, in Lower Manhattan, has been called the financial capital of the world, and is home to the New York Stock Exchange and NASDAQ."

The sentence about population should be modified, as noted below, since it flows better.

"Manhattan has the third-largest population of New York's five boroughs, after Brooklyn and Queens, and it is the smallest borough in land area."

Please advise if this is acceptable. I look forward to your response. 67.84.204.32 (talk) 19:09, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

To make matters even worse, it turns out that the reported GDP figure was not just for the five boroughs of New York City, but for the metropolitan area of New York City, Long Island, and northern NJ. It is already included in the NY City article in the Economy section with this referenced citation ("Gross Metropolitan Product".). All of the citations that you relocated to the New York city article do not even reference the GDP figure of over $1.2 trillion in the referenced statement and are really superfluous. It is not necessary to add anything further to the New York City article. This information definitely does not belong in the Manhattan article. 67.84.204.32 (talk) 23:52, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Your reason for only using Tribeca because "TriBeCa is a publicity capitalisation" is not supported by the Wikipedia article for Tribeca, which uses Tribeca and TriBeCa multiple times. As previously stated, "TriBeCa" is also used elsewhere in the Manhattan article. Most importantly, the person, who originally changed this picture caption from TriBeCa to Tribeca, did not object when I changed it back to TriBeCa based on a clear explanation in the Edit History.

I look forward to your response to all of the issues that I have raised so that we can have a mutually agreed update. Thanks for your cooperation. 67.84.204.32 (talk) 03:03, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Pretty interesting. "TriBeCa" and "Tribeca" — it can go either way. It's publicised as TriBeCa, but I've seen many writings refer to the area as "Tribeca", with lowercase letters. You can revert my edit on Manhattan article, because it seems tha my GDP edit was way off topic. I don't have much Internet access, so I will write a longer reply later. Epicgenius (talk) 15:39, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much. I will take care of the Manhattan article updates. I also noted on the Talk page for the New York City article that your GDP addition in the New York City article at the beginning of that article can be removed since it is already adequately covered in the Economic section of that article with a more accurate and up-to-date citation.

Can you simply go into the New York City article and remove your GDP addition since I do not have editing access to that article?

As you must be well aware based on your extensive experience, it is sometimes amazing how the the smallest of revisions to a single item in a Wikipedia article can have a butterfly/mudslide/avalanche like effect as it begins to impact all of the related information in other parts of the article and in related Wikipedia articles. Usually, it is not readily apparent, as I found out as I began to investigate all of the inter-related items based on the changes that you and I were making. 67.84.204.32 (talk) 16:22, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for 55 Hudson Yards

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closure of article discussion

thank you for your contribution to this discussion. do you know how it can be closed though? thank you much for your valuable help and input Grandia01 (talk) 09:35, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Let it run a little longer, so it can get more comments. Epicgenius (talk) 20:10, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

well, I think that is it if you agree with me. by the way, I did the corrections you suggested on the article. Grandia01 (talk) 17:01, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

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Help expand & fix an article?

Greetings Epicgenius! C-type (New York City Subway car) seems to need some reference adding. Mind to help add on to it? Best and have a good vacation, ///EuroCarGT 01:15, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

@EuroCarGT: Sure! I will get to it within a week, as I have limited Internet access. Thanks, Epicgenius (talk) 13:55, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Able to add one ref.  Partly done Epicgenius (talk) 17:51, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

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Saturday June 21: Wiki Loves Pride

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