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I don't know much about genealogy but do write about (and have a variety of sources for) churches and old buildings in Somerset. If I can help let me know.— Rod ^talk 19:48, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cemetery categories

You appear to be categorizing cemeteries by religion/denomination based on guessing, which is not a good idea. I have reverted your edits in the case of two large municipal cemeteries in Stockholm, both of which you categorized as Lutheran, despite the fact that they are open for burial of people of any religion (or no religion) and include sections specifically for a number of other denominations. (There are Catholic, Orthodox and Muslim sections in these cemeteries.) Many of your other guesses are probably correct, but you should be a bit more careful. --Hegvald (talk) 10:00, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Hegvald, thanks for your interest and concern,i know most of those cemeteries are multi-confessional (or non-denominational) today but the reason why i categorize them by religion is; it would help people to find their ancestors;especially for those who are interested in genealogy.Highgate Cemetery in London is a non-denominational cemetery too ;accepting funerals from all faiths,but it doesn't change the fact there are Anglican burials in the consecrated ground.Therefore,i categorize this cemetery under Anglican cemeteries ,although Karl Marx did not belong to the Church of England ,despite being buried in this cemetery. Evangelidis (talk) 11:44, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is a publicly available database of people buried in Stockholm available on the web. If someone is looking for relatives buried there, they are going to be able to find them without your misguided categorization. And, as Pam says above, your category may in fact have the opposite effect of what you intend. --Hegvald (talk) 02:21, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for setting up categories by religion which are useful in at least some cases. However, I removed a lot of unnecessary head categories from some that you created, e.g. here. Please see the general rule at WP:SUBCAT. Also, note that categories for "portals" in Wikipedia are for navigation within the encyclopedia, not portals into the afterlife, co Christian cemeteries should not be a sub-category of portals! – Fayenatic (talk) 20:15, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Status and Advice

As reviewing administrator, I did not delete it. The deletion tag should not have been placed so soon after you started. I placed a tag on it which will give you some time to enter some content.

But this sort of thing does unfortunately happen here. It is therefore a very good idea to enter at least some content identifying the subject--and if possible a reference also -- at the very first edit.

If I can help you further, ask on my talk p. DGG ( talk ) 18:03, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your Poland-related contributions

Hello and welcome Evangelidis! Thank you for your contributions related to Poland. You may be interested in visiting Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland, joining the project, joining our discussions and sharing your creations with our community.

--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 20:37, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Using the edit summary

Hi, please do get into the habit of writing something in the edit summary so that other people -- or even yourself -- can follow what you have been doing more easily.

Please also see my note above about WP:SUBCAT! – Fayenatic (talk) 20:43, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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	Dear Evangelidis, congratulations on having made over 1,000 edits to articles on English Wikipedia, and for the beautiful articles you've written on cemeteries all over the world! Thank you so much for all your hard work – I hope you continue to help us improve the encyclopedia! Maryana (WMF) (talk) 20:34, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Frederik's Church move

Please discuss on the talk page first. The only rationale you've given is that ""Marmorkirken is the most popular name". I dispute this - a quick google search turns up 5,920,000 results for "Frederik's Church" (skip to a later page and you'll see it still brings up results for the Danish church), and only 97,600 results for "Marmorkirken"! -- Hazhk ^{Talk to me} 22:34, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Merry Christmas to you too! -- Hazhk ^{Talk to me} 15:03, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

People of Levantine-Greek Orthodox Christian descent

Dear Evangelidis,

Since you seem to be a rational soul and know about the « Byzantine » (no pun intended!) subtleties of 'old European' cultural categorization and Church(es) history, I’m writing to draw your attention to the fact that some reckless Wiki-Boeotians want to delete the “People of Levantine-Greek Orthodox Christian descent” and the “American of Levantine-Greek Orthodox Christian descent” categories!

See this page

Your editorial help in the current « deletion debate » would be appreciated

Cordially,

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Copyright violations in Ohlsdorf Jewish Cemetery article

When I edited the Ohlsdorf Jewish Cemetery and Ohlsdorf Cemetery articles yesterday, I ran into a text passage which was copied from the Jewish cemetery's web site by you [1] when you added a lot of contents to the article a while back. While nobody else seems to have noticed this so far, we clearly cannot tolerate such unauthorized copy & paste, as this is a copyright violation, which is not only illegal but can also cause serious harm to our project. The normal procedure would be to immediately delete the sections or flag the article for deletion, but I would really hate doing this, in particular because the two cemeteries are often mixed up it seems, so we need the article and information. Therefore I would like to ask you to remove the copyvio yourself and replace them by your own prose ASAP.

Also, I saw that you added Heinrich Hertz to the list of prominent people buried at this site [2]. I'm sure you acted in good faith, but please be careful before adding such sensitive information without reliable sources; neither was Heinrich Hertz Jewish (his father once was when he (the father, that is) was still a child, but he and his family converted to Protestantism in 1834 already) nor is Heinrich Hertz buried at this place (he is buried at the nearby Friedhof Ohlsdorf). We've had violent IP vandalism in corresponding articles recently [3], and in at least one case the dynamic IP editor (who can be traced back to a specific account in Germany) was trying to legitimate his actions pointing to your false information in the WP article [4].

Thanks. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 15:03, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Evangelidis. Do you have any update on this? Thanks. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 23:13, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, sorry for the late reply, i think you better do it since you are a native speaker of German language (if i am not wrong) and due to this reason, it's much easier for you to find information. The Wikipedia makes it hard to enter some info without citing any source, so how am i supposed to do that without knowing German? It is not my intention to cause copyright violations but then Wikipedia should stop asking for citing sources and references.

Cheers Evangelidis (talk) 23:28, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(Moved your answer from my talk page to yours in order to make it easier to follow the discussion.)

Thanks for the reply. Well, as a native German speaker it is certainly easy for me to search for German sources, however, I am obviously handicapped in vocabulary when writing non-technical stuff in English.

The problem in this case, however, is not to find sources, but that contents were copied without authorization. Since you explained that you find this problem difficult to solve, I'll try to explain how you can avoid this problem in the first place:

a) In some cases, it may be possible to obtain a permission from the author to copy the source into Wikipedia (that is re-publish it under Wikipedia's licensing terms). If so, this should by clearly stated at least in the edit summary.

b) In most cases, the overhead to obtain a permission is way too high, but it is still legal to cite short excerpts of copyrighted material when clearly indicating the source in the article using the < ref > tag. Merely mentioning the source as external link (as you did in this article) is not enough, though. A short, fully referenced citation like the following would be okay:

"According to the cemetery's offical web-site, "in June 1937 the jewish cemetery at the Grindelquarter was completely removed by the Nazis."< ref name="jfhh" >[[ http://www.jfhh.org/index_e.html ]]< /ref >" (Reference syntax somewhat simplified for this example.)

c) However, in most cases it is much more desireable to find your own words for what is stated in the source. This way you are not limited to short quotes. The source of the information must still be mentioned in order to provide a proof for the statements, but also to avoid that your text appears as plagiarism. Example:

"The Nazis destroyed the previous Jewish Grindelquarter cemetery in June 1937."< ref name="jfhh" >[[ http://www.jfhh.org/index_e.html ]]< /ref >" (Reference syntax somewhat simplified for this example.)

Well, this example is still near to the original - it would be better to completely rephrase it in the context of the surrounding text in the WP article, but it's only an example.

While I can do this as well it is obviously much easier to find a good wording for a native English speaker, and someone more involved with the subject and article.

So, to sum it up, if you (almost) directly quote foreign contents try to keep the quotes as short as possible, put them in quotes and don't forget to provide the reference. Better: Restate the facts in your own words and provide your sources, then you are okay.

I haven't checked your other contributions yet, but since you mentioned this as a general problem, I assume that similar copyvios might exist in other articles as well. If so, please pro-actively take the time to go through your old contributions in the next couple of days, reword the sections in question and if you didn't give references so far, provide the original sources for them. If a copyvio remains in an article, this can create all kinds of serious trouble later on. It would be a pity, if we would have to start delete the corresponding articles and thereby invalidate your and other people's contributions in the end. I know that you were acting in good faith, therefore let's try to correct the problem before things blow up. Thanks and greetings --Matthiaspaul (talk) 02:22, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright violation in Green-Wood Cemetery

Hi, I fixed a copyright violation in Green-Wood Cemetery. Please don't do that. Cheers, CliffC (talk) 23:47, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Ways to improve Protestant Cemetery, São Paulo

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I understand your concern, but it's not an orphan article, there's already an existing thread on the subject on German wikipedia, and there's even a book written in German language (which i also added the source) as the cemetery is a historic and national landmark of Bavaria due to its importance as an example of a 19th century rural cemetery design in Germany along with Ohlsdorf cemetery in Hamburg. Evangelidis (talk) 20:19, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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