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Black people

I just noticed that the black people article still contains vandalism in the first paragraph, I am unable to revert it. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cäelevar (talk • contribs) 15:07, 17 January 2007 (UTC).

Thanks. I've removed the crap. --Ezeu 15:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Ez, does the Asian people article need semiprotection as well? Interested in your opinion. Cäelevar 20:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I dont know. I've put it on my watchlist to see what goes on there. --Ezeu 07:40, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the poster above. I'd thought I'd ask informally for it to be protected, before I submit an official request. Thanks. Ryan Locke 20:18, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Africa Award

Thank you very much - you've made my day! Regards, Zaian 15:19, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

AfD

Not to badger you , but its unclear (to me at least) whether you said delete as a rhetorical device or as an actual 'vote'. Cheers, Tewfik^Talk 23:53, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

It was meant as a rhetorical device.--Ezeu 07:38, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Black people

Please do not add that image to Black people again. Before adding an image bring it up on the talk page. Are you Chifumbe? futurebird 12:11, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Your rationale for removing the image because you do not think the depicted person is photogenic is flawed. Does my user name say Chifumbe? --Ezeu 12:32, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

This is a sensitive topic. I feel that this image is being used in an insensitive and hurtful way. The photograph for this article should be excellent since it represents so many people. Considering the historical context, I find it hard to understand why you don't see how this image is being used. Since this image has been the subject of some contention, it should be talked about before it is added again. I'm certain a better image will show up.futurebird 12:40, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

RE: East Africa

Hello! East Africa is not solely/merely used to refer to those three countries, nor is Eastern Africa solely used by the UN -- the prior edition tried to indicate this in a cut-and-dry manner, which is incorrect. Take a glance at any guide, like the CIA World Factbook for instance, and you'll note that a smattering of countries can be found in any number of regions of Africa. At least if the Merriam-Webster's Geographical Dictionary is to believed, East Africa comprises an area which commonly includes those three countries and often three others, which my edits have clearly done; hence, dual articles are not necessary. As well, the point is reinforced with links to the distinct but related East African Community. That is the difficulty whenever a cardinal direction is used when referring to regions: in the basic sense, East/ern Africa is anything on the eastern coast of the continent, with details being a matter of interpretation. Corticopia 00:57, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Point well made. I agree with you that this is not a clear-cut-issue. However, I argue that since the term "East Africa" most often refers to Uganda, Kenya and Tanzania and occassionally Rwanda and Burundi (Merriam-Webster's non-withstanding), the article should point out the particularity that those are the countries often meant. The objective is not to claim that East Africa ís merely those countries, but to sneak in the fact that in many cases those are the countries most often referred to. --Ezeu 01:23, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. Actually, that's my point: the article does point this out already, with citation. The map also reinforces this. I will also point out that you have not provided references to support your position, while I have - which is all that Wikipedia requires. Corticopia 02:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I concede for the time being. I was merely relying on what I thought was common knowledge, but you are right, I'll have to provide references to back the fact. --Ezeu 02:57, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you -- why do you think I cited a geographical dictionary? :) Corticopia 03:04, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, anyway, Merriam-Webster is wrong in this case. --Ezeu 03:15, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, not really: the New Oxford Dictionary of English indicates this for East Africa: "the eastern part of the African continent, especially the countries of Kenya, Uganda, and Tanzania" (p. 582) Corticopia 03:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, that is the reference I'm looking for, as it states that East Africa refers especially to Kenya, Uganda, and Tanzania – the point I've been trying to make. I seems we do not disagree, but I do not understand (if that us so) why you removed from the lead paragraph the statement that "East Africa" often refers to Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda. --Ezeu 03:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I think we are in agreement; however, my point is that sources/interpretations differ: Oxford indicates one thing, while Webster's indicates another, and other sources probably indicate similar or not. I am unwilling to discard such a reputable, specialised, apt citation, and that's why I added it below. At least the UN reckoning catches it all unambiguously; it also coincides with a general interpretation of Eastern Africa (i.e., everything on Africa's eastern coast), hence it necessarily being upfront. I will add the Oxford reference just before the MW reference. Corticopia 03:38, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Note also that the UN uses the term "Eastern Africa", not "East Africa". The article attempts to make this distiction clear. To make it clear, the term "Eastern Africa" is never used to refer specifically to Uganda Kenya and Tanzania, whereas "East Africa" often specifically refers to those countries. It is that distinction that I want the lead paragraph to mention. --Ezeu 03:53, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I believe the article currently indicates this and is structured appropriately; to do otherwise would place undue weight on just one interpretation. Upon digging, for example, the following is indicated for East Africa in The Oxford Companion to the English Language (Africa, p. 19):

• The coastal lands and neighbouring islands of the Indian Ocean from the Horn of Africa south: Ethiopia, Somalia, Uganda, Kenya, Seychelles, Tanzania, and sometimes the southern Sudan.

Note that both Oxford and MW indicate the usage of East Africa to often describe more than just those three countries. Thus, I think we should leave it at that.

I see now that you have mentioned it properly and prominently in the article that East Africa often refers specifically to Kenya, Tanzania, and Uganda and sometimes Rwanda and Burundi, so I will querrel no more. PS. Where I am from, a good querrel that ends well is disirable. --Ezeu 04:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Given the above, that might have to be reconsidered. he he. Seriously, thanks! Corticopia 04:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Chadian Civil War

Hi Ezeu, I wanted your advice regards renaming an article I created, Chadian Civil War, made as part of the History of Chad series, and covering years 1979-82. I originally called the article Chaos in Chad, but it was moved by User:KI, as unsatisfactory. While I have to agree that my first choice wasn't brilliant, Chadian Civil War is unacceptable, as, far from extending fom 1979 to 1982, it went from 1965 to 1993, making it one of the longest ever in Africa. I also need the title Chadian Civil War because I'm projecting to make an article on the conflict. What's your opinion? And also, always about article names, what do you think about this Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/African military history task force#Chadian-Sudanese conflict/Third Chadian Civil War? Ciao,--Aldux 23:07, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

What about Civil war in Chad (1979 to 1982) or Chadian Civil War (1979 to 1982), with a disambiguation message or some information in the lead paragraph to clarify that civil war in Chad was more or less continuous from 1965 to 1993, and that this article refers to a specific period of that long-going multifaceted confict? --Ezeu 11:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your awnsers, Ezeu. Probably the solution you've adopted is the best for the moment (i.e. a disambiguation page, attending the main article). Only Second Chadian Civil War (1994-98) I find a ti difficult to accept, as it's very vulnerable to the accusation of OR. I know the fault is mainly mine, as I unwarrantly gave him the impression there was a civil war between 1994-1998: actually, after 1993 there was for a short time a period of near peace in Chad, and the violence started increasing only slowly, but without any significant pause. I'd be oriented to, instead of making a separate article, expand Third Chadian Civil War, making it start in 1998. Oh, and what do you think of my Chadian-Libyan conflict? It almost finished, now.--Aldux 00:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Black people

Thanks for removing the nonsense about the desert! futurebird 00:20, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Really annoying isn't it? Same old story, same old flawed argument, same old people. At least now they are not getting away with it. --Ezeu 00:24, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Keep your eye on Black Billionares

Mohammed Al Amoudi‎ Black billionaires‎ there are a few vandals deleting information.--HalaTruth(ሀላካሕ) 00:13, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I will keep an eye on the Mohammed Al Amoudi‎ article. Regarding the Black billionaires‎ article, I've tried to get that silly article deleted without success, so I'd rather stay away from it. Not to mention that that article is frequented by juveniles, with whom one is always forced to indulge in inane squabbles. --Ezeu 00:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

"Stand-up" vs "lie-down" karate

I specifically stated in the Kyokushin article that the style is a "stand-up" style because that is actually a very important distinction. As you're probably aware, some martial arts styles mainly involve grappling, often with both opponents laying on the floor. Other styles don't teach any ground/grappling work at all, only techniques that are utilized while standing. Other styles are a mixture of the two (like Daido Juku, Judo, etc).

Kyokushin only teaches stand-up skills. In Kyokushin, if you fall down while fighting, you're supposed to stand back up as quickly as possible. In a Kyokushin tournament or practice sparring session, if either opponent falls down, the match is immediately stopped so that the opponent(s) can return to a standing position. That's why Kyokushin is described as a "stand-up" style. Cla68 06:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Kenneth Kaunda headshot.jpg

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Thanks for uploading Image:Kenneth Kaunda headshot.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read carefully the instructions at Wikipedia:Fair use and then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our Criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. effeietsanders 09:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Truck campers

Hi Ezeu, I notice you inserted a spam alert in the Wikepedia section on Truck campers. I am responsible for most of the content on that page and see no spam there. There are several links to various manufacturers in there, but they are representative of the differing construction types of this particular RV. I am considered one of the foremost sources of information on this subject, but I am president(non-paid) of the non-profit association representing most manufacturers & also consumers. I have no ties to any particular company. - Paul Beddows

• There are too many external links in the body of the text. It looks more like promotion of manufacturers than encyclopedic information about truck campers. --Ezeu 08:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I can make most of them non-clickable if that would help.

Black people

I agree that the Pacific Islander section is a little unbalanced. All I ask is that all the images be highly visible in the gallery format & that each category be half male, half female Iseebias

I do not have access to my Photoshop right now, but I'll edit the picture to make it more visible. All that is needed is to crop the sides of the image, and it will render better in the gallery. --Ezeu 02:49, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good. Can't tell whether those kids are male or female, but I guess they could pass for either Iseebias

Great job fixing the image! Iseebias

Survey Invitation

Hi there, I am a research student from the National University of Singapore and I wish to invite you to do an online survey about Wikipedia. To compensate you for your time, I am offering a reward of USD$10, either to you or as a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation. For more information, please go to the research home page. Thank you. --WikiInquirer 01:48, 4 March 2007 (UTC)^{talk to me}

African Music article

Hi, do you have time to have a look at the Music in Africa article. It seems to have been vandalized. The references and a lot of links are gone. I don't have the time at the moment to take care of that. Do you have the time? Greetings Nannus 23:54, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Cairo Summers with Love (James)

Why was this deleted? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kevensouth (talk • contribs) 05:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC).

Really because it was about a non notable person. --Ezeu 22:38, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Invitation

You have been invited to join the WikiProject Africa, a collaborative effort focused on improving Wikipedia's coverage of Africa. If you'd like to join, just add your name to the member list. Thanks for reading!

Belovedfreak 20:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Mugabe

ok, my apologies —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.133.7.38 (talk • contribs) 18 March 2007.

You wrote: "Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to the Zimbabwe African National Union - Patriotic Front page. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you" -

Screw Mugabe, screw you and screw wikipedia. Yes, I vandalised the page. I am proud of what I did. It's better than vandalising a whole country. Ban me if you like. I don't give a shit. If I want to vandalise Mugabe's pages again I'll simply log on through a diff IP. Best Regards etc., 83.61.2.236 22:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Notable Luo People

Ezeu: A few things

1. I have no doubt that some (or all) of these people are "notbable Luos" why did you revert to the previous version? Raila Odinga; Hezekiah Oyugi; C.M.G. (Chiedo More Gem) Argwings-Kodhek; Oki Ooko Ombaka
2. We could also add so many more, for example: Peter Anyang' Nyong'; Isaac Omolo Okero; Martin Aliker; Otema Allimadi etc.
3. The article refers to Mboya as M'boya. Nowhere else in my experience have I seen him referred to this way.

-Mokeni —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.87.19.179 (talk) 10:42, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

The reason why I reverted you edit was because of your addition of "Oki Ooko Ombaka, a swell guy who simply died way too early". Try to be serious. Yes, the spelling is Mboya. --Ezeu 15:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Unholy Alliance

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Unholy Alliance. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. MBHiii 02:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. --Ezeu 02:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Stupid.com

"Closing admin endorsed relisting"? Er, what? No I didn't. Please don't misrepresent my words. >Radiant< 16:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that, don't know what I was thinking. --Ezeu 16:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

FWIW I don't really mind you closing it because the outcome is pretty much obvious by now, it's the comment that I objected to. Cheers! >Radiant< 08:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Template

Thanks for fixing my mistake. Nannus 19:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)