User talk:Generalklagg

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Fantasy Wargaming and the Influence of J.R.R. Tolkien

The template says:

This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was first published there (or the United Nations Headquarters in New York subject to Section 7 of the United States Headquarters Agreement for the United Nations, Public Law 80-357) before 1964, and copyright was not renewed. [emphasis added]

If the article was published in 1974, then it doesn't apply (and hence the article isn't in public domain). Or am I missing something? Is the template inaccurate? - Mike Rosoft 10:05, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Articles must have their copyrights renewed every 28 years under United States law. As the article was written in 1974, it had to have its renewal done by 2002. As it was not, it is in the public domain. What you're looking at is a database that is searchable for titles prior to 1964. As this is a post-1964 article the proper database to use is the U.S. Copyright Office's LOCIS database, which covers articles written after 1964. The LOCIS database does not go prior to 1964, which is why Rutgers University made the other database. The fact that the Rutgers database only goes to 1964 has no bearing on the copyright status of this article. The Rutgers database is not a template, it is just one of two databases available (pre 1964 and post 1964).

• I am Czech, and so not an expert on U.S. copyright law. I am just quoting what the template says. Since it says "before 1964", I assumed that in 1964 the rules have changed. Indeed, the Wikipedia article United States copyright law says:

For works that received their copyright prior to 1978, a renewal had to be filed in the work's 28th year with the Library of Congress Copyright Office for its term of protection to be extended. The need for renewal was eliminated in 1992, but works that had already entered the public domain by non-renewal did not regain copyright protection. Therefore, works published before 1964 that were not renewed are in the public domain. No additional material is currently set to enter the public domain until at least 2019 due to changes in the applicable laws.

If you believe that the article is in public domain or otherwise usable on Wikisource, please discuss it at Wikisource:Possible copyright violations. Regards, Mike Rosoft 11:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay. I think you're right. I'll just try again in 2019. Generalklagg 05:43, 6 December 2006 (UTC)