User talk:Gurch/Archive 17
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Fighting Vandals
Hi!
I've just installed an AntiVandal tool, so that I can have a head start on reverting vandals. What do I find... You're still there before me! What are you on so that you are there before everybody else to revert? Speed??? (grin)
Seriously though, keep up the good work! StephenBuxton (talk) 17:41, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Award
The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
For continued reversion of vandals, even though Gurch always seems to beat me to them... StephenBuxton (talk) 17:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC) |
Thanks
Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my talk page. --Nlu (talk) 18:24, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleteion
I've deleted your pages now. Are you going into retirement? →AzaToth 19:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- No, just clearing up my userspace (and removing something from the history of my user page that I don't want there) – Gurch 19:51, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
vandalism
You keep beating me to vandalism, for which I want to thank you ;) Keep up the good work! -- Boris Barowski (talk) 20:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for tagging 163.153.27.171. The district has reported that they have narrowed it down to a computer lab, but could not identify the student. The teacher has been made aware of this activity and will keep an eye on it. --NERIC-Security (talk) 19:43, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Real Account
This is to confirm that the e-mail which was recently sent to you was sent from my real account. Thanks, » AIAN ANDREJI BINLAYO (T/C) 17:39, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- I don't doubt that you sent the e-mail from this account. That's not what I said. Thanks – Gurch 17:40, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- The only accounts which I own are this one and Aian Binlayo, although that latter now serves as a doppelganger account. In either case, they have not been blocked. » AIAN ANDREJI BINLAYO (T/C) 17:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- You may wish to disclose this on your user page, as your account's contributions appear suspicious otherwise. Furthermore the statement on your userpage that you began contributing in January 2008 is untrue, as User:Aian Binlayo has contributions from July 2007. Those contributions, too, suggest that even that account is not your first. Am I really meant to believe that you registered an account, created seven userboxes, then did nothing for five months? – Gurch 17:49, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- The statement on my userpage says that I've been a Wikipedia editor since January 2008, not that I began contributing in January 2008. The contributions on the other account that are dated on July 2007 were either (1) Sandbox edits, or (2) userpage edits. Although it is predominantly a matter of opinion, I'd say I have not contributed to the actual Wikipedia content until January 2008, thus the statement on my userpage.
- Yes, I registered an account. Yes, I created seven userboxes. Yes, no activity was performed for five months. I don't quite see why such strong suspicion would be aroused from said scenario. Is it because of the inactivity? If it is, I think it would be rather ignorant to assume that it is the sole possibility, when, in fact, there are plenty. (in my case, it was a matter of losing interest on Wikipedia) » AIAN ANDREJI BINLAYO (T/C) 18:08, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- You may wish to disclose this on your user page, as your account's contributions appear suspicious otherwise. Furthermore the statement on your userpage that you began contributing in January 2008 is untrue, as User:Aian Binlayo has contributions from July 2007. Those contributions, too, suggest that even that account is not your first. Am I really meant to believe that you registered an account, created seven userboxes, then did nothing for five months? – Gurch 17:49, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- The only accounts which I own are this one and Aian Binlayo, although that latter now serves as a doppelganger account. In either case, they have not been blocked. » AIAN ANDREJI BINLAYO (T/C) 17:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Can we sort this out to give the candidate a fair run? Best that we revert to 3 supports and no other comments. Pedro : Chat 23:03, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- Since when is that my decision? Anyway, the only non-support comment that actually affects the outcome is your oppose – Gurch 23:06, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- I know - I cross posted to everyone as it's getting out of hand. You know (I hope) I respect your judgement, but I can't start removing RfA comments out of hand. Pedro : Chat —Preceding comment was added at 23:13, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Sorry
Sorry if that caused any trouble. But there'll always be a special place for Gurch in the community. ;) Rudie M. (talk) 23:33, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Reverting Portal's TOC
I have reverted your edit from "Culture and Arts" back to "Arts and Culture" [1] because according to Wikipedia:Portal/Directory, the correct category is Arts and Culture. OhanaUnitedTalk page 03:14, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, but according to the actual location of the template, it's "Culture and the Arts". You will have to take it up with The Transhumanist – Gurch 12:50, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
AN thread
Hi Gurch. Would you have time to contribute at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#The next step? I presume it was you that made this wiki-tech mailing list post at 01:39, about 25 minutes after the Main Page deletion and history merge by East718. What I'm interested in is how you found out about this? Do you know what communications were taking place? If you could shed any light on this, that would be great. Carcharoth (talk) 15:54, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- How did I find out about it? Er... the Main Page was deleted. It's the sort of thing that gets noticed – Gurch 17:13, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Oh. I suppose so. I'm still trying to work out why this seemed to be discussed for a while off-wiki before finding its way on-wiki. Different cultures in different areas of Wikipedia, I suppose. Carcharoth (talk) 17:15, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- And I've asked the question more explicitly over there. Carcharoth (talk) 17:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Oh. I suppose so. I'm still trying to work out why this seemed to be discussed for a while off-wiki before finding its way on-wiki. Different cultures in different areas of Wikipedia, I suppose. Carcharoth (talk) 17:15, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
suggestions for Huggle
I just got Huggle today and it is awesome. I've never used a tool that reverted vandalism this fast! :)
However, I have a few suggestions for Huggle:
- more built-in warning templates - the current ones are fairly generic; there are times when more specific templates (like {{test1a}}, {{bv}}, {{test4im}}, or {{comment2}}) would be useful
namespace filtering- the ability to filter edits by users (e.g., show only IP edits)
- the ability to filter edits by risk (e.g., show only large content removals, users editing other editors' user pages, or suspicious insertions of text (see next suggestion))
- a regexp-based filter for detecting edits with common vandal strings (e.g., "!!!" or "fuck you")
- a split-window view for reviewing multiple edits at once
- a real-time list of edits in the queue (like in Vandal Fighter)
- a pause/unpause button
- compatibility with other skins, not just MonoBook
That's it for now. I hope that you'll take these ideas into consideration! --Ixfd64 (talk) 01:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Well, that explains how you've been beating me so many times today, Ixfd64. :D You're another huggler!
- So, I just came here to report what seems to be a glitch. I figure it's also a suggestion, inasmuch as I suggest bugs should be fixed, so it's going in this section.
- Gurch, what do you think happened with this AIV report of a user who hadn't received any warnings? I got a notice about reporting complex abuse regarding that. It seems strange that huggle would report the user with only two edits to go on. Tuvok[T@lk/Improve] 08:39, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- PS: I should mention, absolutely wonderful tool!!!1!!1!!!oneonesixfivefourseven... (:P) It's bumped my edit count a few thousand already, and I feel a very nice sense of power over vandals when I can revert, warn, and report them all with one button. I hope you keep developing it!
- PPS: Ixfd64, take a look at Wikipedia:Huggle and go to the configuration section. There are options to ignore namespaces via the huggle.css page.
- Thanks. I guess I was too lazy to read all that documentation. :P --Ixfd64 (talk) 23:32, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Featured sounds
I noticed that you have participated in Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates in the past. There are now two candidates and the project appears to be abandoned. If you could look at the candidates and vote it would be appreciated. Zginder (talk) (Contrib) 00:34, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Help the noob
...well, the n00b at Huggling anyway.
I logged in after saving my CSS page, and I see no edit source box. Kinda funny really, 'cuz I've got all the requirements (Vista, .NET 2.0, and the subpage). Where's this "edit source" you speak of? Also, how do I open this awesome-lookin' window once I've found it?
Thank you in advance for answering the lamest and probably most obvious question in the world, Two One Six Five Five τ ʃ 02:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- Nevermind. Apparently I need to email you to get the program.... Two One Six Five Five τ ʃ 16:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Template:Hex
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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 06:38, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
[2] Honestly I was expecting better, the user is obviously a master sockpuppet. --Charitwo talk 07:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Template:Hue-b
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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 21:33, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Template:Hue-g
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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 21:33, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Template:Hue-r
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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 21:33, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Huggle Issue
I keep getting this message when trying to log into huggle: "Failed to load page. Check internet connection and availability of Wikipedia." I have no Idea what's wrong. I've used it before, and Obviously wikipedia and my internet are okay, seeing as I'm sending you this message right now. I tried re-installing it, and re-starting my computer, and I still can't get huggle to work. What do I do? Dadude3320 22:29, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've had the same problem before. Try switching to MonoBook if you're using another skin. Huggle doesn't seem to work with other skins right now. --Ixfd64 (talk) 23:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've always used MonoBook though, and I still am now. Dadude3320 23:32, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- Here's what you can try: Go into Internet Explorer and delete your Temporary Internet Files (or whatever they call them in IE7). I entered an incorrect password once and I had to clear my cache to get it to work again; perhaps this is another caching issue... Tuvok[T@lk/Improve] 02:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- Cleared my Cache on FF and IE. Still not working. Dadude3320 15:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- Here's what you can try: Go into Internet Explorer and delete your Temporary Internet Files (or whatever they call them in IE7). I entered an incorrect password once and I had to clear my cache to get it to work again; perhaps this is another caching issue... Tuvok[T@lk/Improve] 02:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've always used MonoBook though, and I still am now. Dadude3320 23:32, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Gurch
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Huggle bug extending AIV reports
Lately when huggle is extending AIV reports, it pastes a link like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceanside%2c+New+York?190533250, missing the diff=
part. Tuvok[T@lk/Improve] 03:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Wiki ads
Hello,
I have noticed that you have been creating several Wiki ads which I found quite impressive. However, may I ask you what software you used for creating them?
Cheers!
Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 16:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Huggle bug
There is a bug that i found on Huggle. If the internet connection has been reset while Huggle is connected to the IRC feed, and i close and restart huggle, it doesn't show back up the recent changes feed. One way to prevent it is to add a function as a alternate nick like h_party2. --Party!Talk to me! 17:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've got one too for when you come back (until then, have fun, take a well deserved break, and great job). If a user has been reported to AIV, admins will not get the block interface on user with a test4 warning. Prodego talk 14:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
- Do you actually show up in IRC when you're using the feed for Huggle? Keilana|Parlez ici 17:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes. If you enter "/server irc.wikimedia.org" in any IRC client, and then once connected, "/join #en.wikipedia", you can see the list of names in the user list sidebar (or if your IRC client does not have one, by entering "/names #en.wikipedia"). Currently, for example, h_andonic is using the IRC feed. irc.wikimedia.org is unique in that you can't actually send channel messages to the server, only receive them, and so you couldn't chat or anything. GracenotesT § 16:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Do you actually show up in IRC when you're using the feed for Huggle? Keilana|Parlez ici 17:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Help!
Hi, Gurch. I can see that a lot of rollbackers are using Huggle nowadays, and has gotten me interested in it. I went to my huggle.css subpage, which was empty at the time; I entered "enable:true" in over an hour ago. I have an XP, an account, and I also downloaded the .NET Framework 2.0 thing. So after I entered it in, nothing happened. I feel like I should need more introductory information about using the software, since you're the creator of it.
Another question: When you're logging in, is the username and password for Huggle the same that you enter in on the normal Wikipedia? SchfiftyThree 19:05, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- You need to get the Huggle program, currently in private beta, so you will have to email gurch to request the executable file. huggle.css is only a substitute for an options prompt in the main program. And, since you are logging in to your Wikipedia account, you enter the same information as you would enter logging in to Wikipedia regularly. --FastLizard4 (Talk•Index•Sign) 19:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I accidentally blocked VoABot II by accident while using Huggle!
I just reverted some vandalism on French language and was given the option to block to block the vandal, but I accidentally closed the window. The user vandalized the article again, and I tried to block the vandal before reverting the article. However, VoABot II beat me to the revert and I clicked the "block" option right after that, causing me to accidentally block VoABot II.
Could you please change Huggle so that it warns administrators if they are about to block (or revert) a whitelisted user? Thanks. --Ixfd64 (talk) 00:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Why'd you make this into a redirect to a disambig page? Are *any* of those people engineers? He was listed on requested biographies, and that doesn't seem to be a fulfilled request, IMHO.
~ender - 2008-02-24 11:02:AM MST
Huggle issues
Just to let you know that I've posted some messages about Huggle to Wikipedia talk:Huggle. Thanks. --Coppertwig (talk) 13:39, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you...
The PCHS-NJROTC Abuse Report and Antivandal Barnstar | ||
For reverting vandalism to Port Charlotte High School! |
GO-PCHS-NJROTC (talk) 00:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Huggle requests
- Gurch, would like to request Huggle. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 21:58, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- You must e-mail Gurch at Special:Emailuser/Gurch. EJF (talk) 13:35, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- He turned his email off.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 14:30, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'll also take a Huggle when their back on the market. MBisanz talk 23:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- I would also like to use Huggle. Your help is greatly appreciated. Kind regards, --Abrech (talk) 00:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- A lot of good vandal patrollers seem to be using Huggle now, so when it's available again I'd like to use it as well. --ÐeadΣyeДrrow (Talk | Contribs) 05:56, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how proper this is but I just obtained huggle and I'd like to start distributing it, since Gurch appears to be MIA, and huggle is really a valuable tool. Anyone have any thoughts on that? Equazcion •✗/C • 12:43, 4 Mar 2008 (UTC)
- Check out Wikipedia:Huggle/Apply, which I just created. I'm not sure if this will actually come into practical use, so please know that posting there will not be a guarantee that you'll receive the program (for now at least). I'm sure there will be at least one person who will have a problem with this method. But here's hoping. Equazcion •✗/C • 13:18, 4 Mar 2008 (UTC)
- I think we ought to be tremendously careful in who we allow Huggle in Gurch's absence. --ÐeadΣyeДrrow (Talk | Contribs) 21:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Not really sure how to say this, but Special:EmailUser/Huggle is the way you're supposed to get Huggle, per User:Huggle's user page. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 04:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think we ought to be tremendously careful in who we allow Huggle in Gurch's absence. --ÐeadΣyeДrrow (Talk | Contribs) 21:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
The da Vinci Barnstar | ||
Huggle. Need I say more? Enigma msg! 21:40, 4 March 2008 (UTC) |
Wikipedia ads in Spanish
Gurch, I know you are not active, but this is interesting. miranda 00:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Happy early birthday from he with a number for a username
To the developer of Huggle from the user whose edit count skyrocketed thanks to said app, Happy Five-Day-Early Birthday! Two One Six Five Five τ ʃ 21:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was going to e-mail you, but, well, you know... I hope to have you back here soon; your work is appreciated. WODUP (talk) 06:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I was wondeing if you could make me an ad like the Blu-Ray one you made. If you want to I will give you the details.--Blackwatch21 (talk) 02:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Dude
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Huggle bug (i dont know where else to report it) - AIV Reports
Hi, i have recently experienced a bug where i would revert a vandalism edit for a user and huggle would report it to AIV. Upon checking the user in question, they would not have any warnings on their page, yet huggle thought they needed to be reported. The warning icon on the history was the block one..this has happened to me three times. I was advised by an admin on the proper way to report a user..According to Sephiroth BCR several users have been experiencing bus with huggle and AIV reports. If you look at my contribs, you can see where it has recently happened with User:Abcdefg9965645634345345434. (The user was blocked for violating the user name policy.) When i first noticed it, i tried reloading the config to see if that helped, but i guess it didnt. Another time it happened was when i reverted an edit by User:Weismansucks who had only been warned one time seen here. Also User:Iamjesus666 wasnt even warned one time, the user was just reported. Could it be that Huggle suspects the names a naming violations but is reporting them for vandalism instead of naming violations? Thanks! ✬Dillard421✬ (talk • contribs) 05:51, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
- I have added "report:prompt" to my config as a work-around to this issue. ✬Dillard421✬ (talk • contribs) 05:56, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
- To report bugs you should use Wikipedia:Huggle/Complaints and not this page. This page is the talk of Gurch and is not really meant to be about huggle. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 20:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry about the reverts
But most of us don't know about your alternate account. Enigma msg! 23:04, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Can you review Power engineering
Hi, can you help me review the content of the article power engineering, especially in the component parts. I really need some advice.2001beibei (talk) 17:55, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I was wondeing if you could make me an ad. If you want to I will give you the details.--Blackwatch21 (talk) 02:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Happy First Day of Spring!
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possible Huggle bug
I don't know if this is a bug or not, but Huggle warned 76.177.110.178 (talk · contribs) twice for this edit. --Ixfd64 (talk) 04:38, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- If you want to report a bug then please use Wikipedia:Huggle/Complaints and not this page. This page is Gurch's talk page and not a huggle help desk ^^. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 20:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Regarding civility
Gurch, I mean not to bother you, but edit summaries like these are uncalled for. Please do not make offensive edit summaries like that and instead explain yourself calmly on user talk pages. Thank you. Valtoras (talk) 20:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi
Why user I'mgay was blocked? --200.61.5.142 (talk) 13:13, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Big Problem
Just wanted to let you know, on {{atn}}, the subpage "last" has too many #ifexist statements that are inside one another, causing an expansion limit error when the template is placed anywhere (see Talk:Aang/Archive 1 for example). I am not sure how to go about fixing this, so I wanted to ask if you could do it or at least tell me how if you do not have time. Thanks. — Parent5446 (t n c k e l) 02:23, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Huggle
I am not sure why, but if a user is reported on WP:UAA Huggle reports them to AIV without giving any warnings. I do not think this is a bad idea, but is there any way that you can make the report say something about the fact that the user was reported to UAA? Thanks. J.delanoygabsadds 20:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks for this! Grsz 11 15:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Wikiads
I see that you've contributed to Wiki-ads. Do you have time to help me out? I'm trying to do a wiki ad for my wiki project; so I downloaded Gimp and Microsoft Gif Animator but it all seems Greek to me, so I was wondering if you had the time to help me out. Thanks. Lighthead þ 22:36, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
For watching my userpage! BananaFiend (talk) 08:59, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to say...
...thank you so much for creating Huggle. Now editors can fight vandalism like never before :)--Urban Rose 14:42, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I also wanted to let you know
I emailed User:Catzrthecoolest a copy of Huggle as he said you never responded to his request for it.--Urban Rose 22:53, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
- Huggle may be requested by email. You should get a reply from this e-mail address but it may take some days as gurch is not on wikipedia everyday. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 20:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
No response to e-mail
FYI, I e-mailed a request for Huggle on the 6th and have yet to hear anything.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 14:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry for the wait but gurch is not active everyday. He will try to get round to sending out all of the versions but there are over 150 people in the list currently and it does take time. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 20:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)