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Editor of the Week

		Editor of the Week
		Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week for your determination and dedication to help the encyclopedia grow. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

Editor Buster7 submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

Editor Jetstreamer loves airplanes and anything to do with airplanes. His over 100 articles created on the subject and his participation at WikiProject Airports are ample proof of his interest. His 99.5% use of the edit summary speaks to his collaborative nature and 70% article mainspace input speaks to a willingness to do the work of an encyclopedia creator rather than get stuck in the drama. Jetstreamer has received his fair share of barnstars over the 5 years of activity but is worthy of the Eddy because, as one barnstar stated, "You are a great editor with a great ethic. Another editor noted his "willingness to learn and change your opinions". Work ethic and changeability are valuable tools for an editor to have. This nomination was seconded by White Arabian Filly. Buster Seven Talk 02:46, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

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Jetstreamer

Aviation

Editor of the Week for the week beginning April 24, 2016

This "great editor with a great ethic" loves airplanes and does great work on a number of airline articles. Constantly improving the overall quality of Wikipedia content.

Recognized for

100+ articles related to WikiProject Airports and WikiProject Aviation

Nomination page

Thanks again for your efforts! Buster Seven Talk 02:46, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

What a nice surprise! Thank you very much.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:31, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Air cote d'ivoire

Jetstreamer you have idea of what's going on in this company stop changing the information about the fleet there is 4 Q400 TU-TSK, TU-TSL, TU-TSI, TUTSQ i work there i can see them every day — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.68.4.176 (talk) 17:35, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

I don't care what you see. We have policies here. WP:VERIFY is one of them. WP:RELIABLE relates to it.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:56, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

There are reference and different sources you don't even try to look at informations if you look at this article which is in french it clearly says that they have 4 Q400 http://www.air-journal.fr/2016-04-29-air-cote-divoire-commande-deux-a320neo-et-deux-a320-5162173.html you should consider to check information first before removing it you are not contributing cleverly to this page you should forget air cote d'ivoire as you don't bother checking info — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.207.216.238 (talk • contribs)

Qatar Airways

Qatar airways flight 3372 777-200LR/F. Left KPAE 4/26/16 Arrived 4/27/16 400001air (talk) 22:26, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

The official information supporting the fleet table doesn't say so.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:32, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

References

Ecuatoriana de Aviación

Ecuatoriana de Aviación never flew to Brazil or Costa Rica with their own airplanes. The airline had a codesharing agreement with Varig, an former airline from Brazil. And it was Varig the airline that flew to those destinations. For example, you could buy a ticket from Guayaquil (Ecuador) to San José (Costa Rica) in a Ecuatoriana de Aviación office o agency but you had to fly with a Varig airplane. I know this fact because I did it many times. It was imposible to fly with an airplane from Ecuatoriana between Ecuador and Brazil or Costa Rica. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.164.230.175 (talk) 00:38, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Use of templates

Hi! I found that you have removed the current month template in the IndiGo page. I had a similar discussion with User:LeoFrank when he was of the opposite opinion. Refer to the discussion her at User_talk:LeoFrank#Use_of_current_month_template. Need a consensus here as to whether it should be there or not. Can discuss in the project page for opinion as well. Let me know in case if it has been discussed already. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 17:39, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Brussels Airlines

How difficult can it be to simply accept that OO-LTM is stored at BRU and has been so since the incident in Congo and the termination of all activities by Korongo. That aircraft is broken up despite still being officially listed in the register, it is retired, being scrapped (engines, several parts of wings and tail, etc. are long gone, I'm looking at that aircraft (or what's left of it) every day at work) and will never fly again. You can keep turning down all sources claiming it is stored since the incident and even ignore to believe the pictures of the current state of the aircraft, that's not going to change the facts. Maybe just check with Brussels Airlines itself if you don't believe anything else and stop acting like this.

I'll try one last time, you say the airfleets source doesn't support the fact that it is stored (something clearly mentionned by Planespotters, CH-Aviation database, ...), but it shows Korongo as the last operator with the remark that it ceased ops. If airfleets doesn't put SN again as the latest airline, it means it never flew again since operating for Korongo.

How do you expect to be a trustworthy editor of wikipedia if you fail to understand sources like this for months despite numerous people trying to correct something which is simply wrong. What's the point of wikipedia if the information is simply wrong. SN is not operating a 737 in its fleet anymore and it shouldn't be shown. So a broken-up, stored aircraft should be in the list, while long term wet-lease aircraft of BMI and FlyBe operating daily flights for SN can't? Where's the logic... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1810:440C:E700:E8F1:75AB:2480:7412 (talk) 23:10, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Sources shouldn't be understood. Read WP:VERIFY. Material should be directly supported by companion sources. Otherwise you're introducing original research.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:14, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Reliability of PlaneSpotters

As my previous change in Vietnam Airlines was reverted because you said that source from Plane Spotters wasn't reliable. I found this page Lufthansa, which is the 4^th largest airline in the world and its fleet section referred to source from Plane Spotters. I wonder if we can use planespotters as a reliable source for Vietnam Airlines or not because source from ch-aviation isn't reliable (it doesn't match with source from Vietnam Airlines). 0x44616E68 (talk) 07:29, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Planespotters is not a reliable source. You may want to start a discussion regarding this at WT:AIRLINE.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:56, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Kirchner

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Hello. Hence you allow yourself to threaten me blocking for forgetting to source while the information that was written before was also not sourced ? Not only I but then sourced more your threat is too much. --Panam2014 (talk) 18:31, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Forgetting to source? As far as I can see, you've been editing the English Wikipedia since January 2014. You cannot ″forget″ to apply one of the core content policies.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:43, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

reverting a sourced information is a vandalism. As if by chance, you ask for my version of the sources, but not to the previous which was never sourced. Moreover, when it is not sourced, simply put the right band or seek a source, not to cancel. I do not have to justify myself more. --Panam2014 (talk) 23:28, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Your comment above only evidences the lack of knowledge in policies and guidelines. I'll lend you a helping hand. You may start reading WP:VERIFY, WP:BURDEN and WP:VAND. Take your time to read them. You are invited to come back later to continue discussing how Wikipedia works.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 00:27, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

I did not violate any rules in force. So from that moment, you do not have to tell em what I should do. I understand that my information was not sourced at the time . But previous information also was not . Why not have asked for sources? Thank you for your intéressents links, I would be careful next time, but we must not dramatize the situation , especially since the subject is verifiable, you could either find sources you or even ask me and let me cancel without time to answer , instead of threatening me blocking. Good night.--Panam2014 (talk) 00:42, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

All I can say is read WP:BURDEN again. I'm not gonna do your work for you.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:11, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

You had to leave me a message asking me to source , instead of cancel wildly. Because according to your reasoning , undo a change is to do my job . Or you leave for consistency in the state , especially since even the date of December 10 was not sourced and you never asked source . And the blocking threat was abusive and a kind of violation of the rules of etiquette . --Panam2014 (talk) 10:20, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

You already had warnings regarding the introduction of unsourced material into articles in your talk page. You should know about it.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:46, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Put a warning for that is ridiculous and disproportionate. Also, why did not you say to the date of December 10 was not sourced ? I reject this ridiculous trial of intention. --Panam2014 (talk) 10:49, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

You did not follow a core content policy. If you think policies are ridiculous do not edit Wikipedia.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:57, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

No, what 's ridiculous is revoked as a nag free to contact the author and get out of abusive threatening, knowing that the previous information was false and non- sourced . Point. Thank you to stop now . --Panam2014 (talk) 11:05, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't have to contact you for adding unsourced content (i.e, for not following a policy). You had been warned for that at your talk page at least once before I warned you. You were well aware of that. Again, familiarise yourself with WP:CCPOL first and then come back to further discuss this.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:04, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

The facts are there , you have not done your part to contact me and tell me you preferred what is disproportionate. Finally, there are tools to highlight what is not sourced , you could have done for my modification or erroneous date that has never been sourced . You are wrong and your " warning " is null and void .--Panam2014 (talk) 17:34, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

If I'm right or wrong is out of discussion. It was you the one that added unsourced material.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 20:27, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

This is not the issue . You are totally wrong when you have undo the edit in lieu of asking for source. This is the truth , whether you like it or not. --Panam2014 (talk) 21:52, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Look, I'm starting to lose my patience as this discussion has become circular. Either you do not understand or you do not want to. You won't face any more troube if you source your changes. I wonder why you do not use the energy you're spending in replying every answer of mine in sourcing your additions.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:59, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

You violated the rules of etiquette. Period. I'm starting to lose my patience. --Panam2014 (talk) 10:31, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

There are no rules of etiquette, they are guidelines. There are policies, and one of them is sourcing your changes. You violated it.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:39, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Whether you like it or not , the dispropotion for your actions , you have violated the rules of etiquette . I have not broken anything. --Panam2014 (talk) 10:43, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

 I consider this discussion as over. I won't spend more time trying to explain you what policies are. If you don't understand that's your problem, not mine.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 17:06, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Norwegian Air Shuttle

Hey, the new destinations have been announced, but how do I add the specific source and convert it into like this; [number] , on the column? When I copy the source and add it to Wikipedia, that gives me only the link to the website, not like this; [number] . Can you help me how I can edit the link into this; [number] ? Or perhaps I could give you the specific source, since I am not used to transfer sources into a website. Links down below:

Cape Town: https://afktravel.com/59731/norwegian-airlines-eyes-low-cost-london-to-cape-town-flights/

Durban: http://cphpost.dk/news/business/norwegian-eyeing-new-long-range-flights-out-of-copenhagen.html

Buenos Aires: http://cphpost.dk/news/business/norwegian-eyeing-new-long-range-flights-out-of-copenhagen.html

Hong Kong: http://e24.no/boers-og-finans/norwegian-air-shuttle/norwegian-vil-fly-til-india-og-hongkong-i-2016/23245642

Delhi: http://e24.no/boers-og-finans/norwegian-air-shuttle/norwegian-vil-fly-til-india-og-hongkong-i-2016/23245642

Mumbai: http://cphpost.dk/news/business/norwegian-eyeing-new-long-range-flights-out-of-copenhagen.html

Rio de Janeiro: http://cphpost.dk/news/business/norwegian-eyeing-new-long-range-flights-out-of-copenhagen.html

Sao Paulo: http://cphpost.dk/news/business/norwegian-eyeing-new-long-range-flights-out-of-copenhagen.html

Note that the sources of Delhi and Hong Kong are written in Norwegian, but it says this (if English): "Norwegian wants to fly to India and Hong Kong in 2016. At the same time as Norwegian opens three new US routes from London, Bjørn Kjos notifies that the airline expands by flying to India and Hong Kong from 2016." In case you wonder how I translated it, don't worry about it. I am Norwegian myself.

Greets from Ruben — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruben Emblem (talk • contribs) 06:19, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Sure. I can add the links for you if you want to. In the meantime, you can read WP:CITE so you can start adding references for yourself.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 12:50, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Airport in Argentina

Excuse me , where you got the data to initiate routes to Mar del Plata ?, The route Mar del Plata to cancel Mendoza , will not. The Salta and Rosario route starts in July and I take it out , it's news of the Argentine newspaper. and Route Salta to Ezeiza Also in July, Aerolineas Argentina and Andes Lineas Aereas this by restructuring the Argentina routes in winter and Posu dates advertisements ( Beyond who are Spanish ) are official and I take it out , which makes destruction the information is you by putting false information not me. ^Talk 20:26, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Unintelligible.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 09:48, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Air Algerie and Air Canada Rouge

Though I will concede that the 737-combi may not have been delivered to Air Algerie, a list on Air Canada's home page and flightradar24 data confirms that C-FJQL has indeed been delivered to Air Canada Rouge. (http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/fin.html and https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-fjql). Unless you have any objections, I will therefore edit the fleet of Air Canada Rouge. Uendelig (talk) 21:21, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

@Uendelig: Please, proceed. But don't forget to add the source you mentioned above. I can do it for you if you don't know how.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:31, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Qatar Airways Lounge

Just curious as to why my updated version of the Lounge section on the Qatar Airways page was removed? The current one is incorrect and out of date, with poor English. Please explain.

Thank you.

Rufusmi (talk) 20:21, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Nikola Tesla Airport, Belgrade and Air Serbia

Hi Jetstreamer! I've a problem with the guys responsible for Belgrade Airport's page. They are keeping reverting the change I've made there thought an official source was added. According to Air Serbia magazine (I believe this more that official information) the flights to Hamburg, Kiev and St. Petersbourg are seasonal - citation was added (http://elevate.airserbia.com/Elevate_jun2016/index.html#120). I've made the change 3 times and every time it was reverted. I don't think this is normal! Or providing a source from the airline itself isn't enough anymore? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashine1984 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

@Mashine1984: As far as I can see the article has been protected. I suggest to start a discussion at the article's talk regarding the matter. Please note that the page being protected does not mean it is an endorsement of the current version.--

Jetstreamer ^Talk 20:32, 6 June 2016 (UTC) Hi Jetstreamer,

The page have become protected after I made the change for 3 times and each time providing source of the information - the official airline website. For some reason they have being reverting it... and after that they have protected. I'm kindly asking you to check the source that I've provided and to make the needed change. All I want the correct information to be displayed.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashine1984 (talk • contribs)

I could not open the above link.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 23:58, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

With your permission

can I comment here (since, of course, ironically the IP has undone both our comments!)- thanks for your last remark on that TP, and I apologise AS WELL if what I said seemed a brusque or rude; you are definitely right about the IP-evasion. I also withdraw (@Bishonen:) my comments re. any edit-warring. Have a great night! _Muffled ^Pocketed 19:19, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

@Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi: Permitted. Never mind about the comment! P.S. It's not night yet in this part of the World...--Jetstreamer ^Talk 19:23, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Cheers! Buenas tardes- Happy tea-time?! _Muffled ^Pocketed 19:27, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Please define a "Reliable Source"

Greetings,

My somewhat minor edit to Ethiopian Airlines accidents and incidents were reverted with the comment that https://www.planespotters.net/ is "Not a reliable source". I have found that site to be exceedingly reliable.

For future reference, what defines a reliable source? Please advise your reasoning since I do not understand it.

Thanx, Eassa (talk) 23:35, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

The definition of a reliable source does not depend on you on me but on consensus. It has been discussed the reliability of Planespotters many times at WT:AIRLINES. You may want to take a survey at that page and its archives to find your answer. Cheers.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 00:57, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

I looked at WT:AIRLINES and its archives. All I saw are statements by you on several occasions stating that planespotters is not reliable. I do not see any sort of debate or consensus on the view you expressed. Repeating your view on multiple occasions, with all due respect, does not constitute consensus as I am used to seeing at Wikipedia. Thanx, Eassa (talk) 15:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Do dig further and you'll find comments from other editors besides mine's.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 18:35, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Málaga WP:UNBROKEN Revert

Just a quick note about your revert of my edit on Air Europa destinations. You mentioned WP:UNBROKEN and I can understand that the link to Malaga leads to Málaga, but I felt the edit was justified since there was a visual change in the actual name presented on the page. If you feel the name should be Malaga and not Málaga, perhaps we should have changed the link to Málaga Airport which appears on the page to Malaga Airport so that there is at least some consistency on the page with the placename? ~ Ablaze (talk) 10:38, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

No, I don't think so. But I feel your question is more appropriate for WT:REDIRECT, where you can discuss whether or not to bypass such redirects. BTW, an edit of the same kind at Aeroflot [1] has been reverted.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 17:05, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

I've put the question on WT:REDIRECT. ~ Ablaze (talk) 07:43, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

I'll drop some lines there. Thanks.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:33, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Aeroflot special livery planes

Hi,

planespotters.net is not a good source for you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulafme (talk • contribs) 22:06, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

It's not for the project.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:29, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

What does it mean - "One more post of this [1] kind at my talk and you will be reported.--Jetstreamer"?

Are you threatening me? Are you a God here?

I fixed some incorrect data and added some new. A what was your job? You just deleted all I did....

So, b.t.w.,do you want to write to me, that A330-300 VQ-BCQ is NOT in a SkyTeam livery (as I put to Notes field and you deleted)? Do you want to write to me, that this photo is falsified? Also with other hundreds photos of this VQ-BCQ aircraft around the web? OR do you want to write to me that, what we see on these photos IS NOT SkyTeam livery? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulafme (talk • contribs) 23:28, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

I meant exactly that. The next time you use ofensive language not in accordance with WP:CIVIL I will report you to an admin. Regarding Planespotters, it is a fansite and it is not considered reliable. I already wrote this above. Use this [2] other reference, directly from SkyTeam.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 00:40, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

planespotters.net is widely used source in thousands of articles here on Wiki in all languages. It is the biggest, up-to-date, air transport aircraft database in the world. According to your source, VQ-BQG doesn't wear SkyTeam livery. According to your source, VP-BDK doesn't wear SkyTeam livery. Your reference is wrong and you are a liar. There are thousands of photographs on the web (and also on planespotters.net) they prove, that my changes of Aeroflot's article were correct. The changes you deleted! And the same situation concerns Aeroflot's fleet. I proved, that Aeroflot has 5 of A330-200 and 17 of A330-300 by THREE independent sources. And you deleted my chynges! Why? Do you own the Aeroflot's article? Are you the only person who can make changes there? Or are you an owner of Wikipedia? If you want, report me...--Ulafme (talk) 14:02, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Planespotters is not a reliable source regardless of what you say and the number of articles the reference is used in. You may want to start a discussion at WT:AIRLINES to check by yourself what I say. And four your information, images are generally not reliable sources.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:41, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

References

Little reply

On Village Pump you said: Separately, nobody is commenting on the way Ulafme approached me at my talk. Not doing so may give them the wrong impression they did it the right way when they actually did not. Neither I see them mentioning it. You probably mean the vulgar language Ulafme used. Believe me, we all on Czech Wikipedia criticized him for this and he started to be a little bit choleric on Czech help forum, therefore I asked on Village Pump here for help. I hope disputes between both of you and him will solve in a near future. --Dvorapa (talk) 17:27, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Requesting your opinion

Hi Jetstreamer, I am asking for your opinion on an issue between myself and another user regarding a supposed official website for Kolkata Airport. Sorry but I don't know who else to ask to help convince this person. I put a list showing my opinion here. Thanks if you are available. - ✈Sunnya343✈ (talk) 14:03, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

@Sunnya343:I'd be happy to help, but what's exactly the matter? It's hard for me to figure it out from the discussion at your talk.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 23:40, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

There is this website that the other user claims is the official website for Kolkata Airport. Thus he wants to list that website on the Wiki article and include its logo in the infobox. I put a list at the bottom of the discussion explaining how this looks to be just a fan's site. (This user also says that even if the website is not official, there is no problem in using its logo just for the sake of having a logo on the Wiki article. Which is obviously wrong.) - ✈Sunnya343✈ (talk) 01:20, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Why dont you see sources when they are clearly referenced?

Why do you claim my entries dont have a source when I have clearly given citations for news articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiga354 (talk • contribs) 01:13, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

• No citations provided [3]
• No citations provided and personal opinions added [4]
• No citations provided [5]
• Persistent disruptive editing at Mufaddal Saifuddin [6] [7] for which you have been reported [8]

Shall I continue?--Jetstreamer ^Talk 02:13, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Users behaving strangely, possible return of User:Nikolas.Sudarpo

Lately I've noticed User:ZJOEY making worrying edits:here they warn an IP, pretending to be you, for making a non-existent edit to Turkish Airlines. The history of User talk:CPAT is worth looking into as well. But what's most worrying are the edits ZJOEY and various IP's have recently made to User talk:Nikolas.Sudarpo. I thought I should let you know, what are you thoughts? Sro23 (talk) 06:34, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

@Sro23: I do think an admin should take a look at these edits.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 11:25, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Agree, I wasn't sure what else to do so I have filed SPI here. Sro23 (talk) 13:29, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Aerolíneas Argentinas A330-200 order

Hello Jetstreamer

this is from the latest Orders and Deliverys June 16 from Airbus maybe do you believe me now that they have an open order for four 4 A330 ( 2 from Airbus and 2 Ex

                           A330-200/300
                          Ord     Del      Opr         

AEROLINEAS ARGENTINAS 4 2 7

http://www.airbus.com/company/market/orders-deliveries/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/850954...37101/sizes/l/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/850954...294753/sizes/l

https://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/27647344083/sizes/l

why is Planespotters no respectable source for you? why don't you believe my sources?

Perhaps the pictures are now enough for you !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sasha2881 (talk • contribs) 07:37, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

a new source for you from yesterday

A brand new A330 from Airbus directly for AR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVZpazlfIRg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6u0Q1QFbeE — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sasha2881 (talk • contribs) 08:08, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Only the official source from Airbus is reliable, and is enough to support the fact that the airline has two more aircraft directly ordered from Airbus pending delivery.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 20:29, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

July 2016

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Mexico City International Airport. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. --Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 01:06, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

• Per this ANI Thread --Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 01:10, 28 July 2016 (UTC) Apparently an administrator can only give these warnings ignore this please --Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 01:41, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Kuwait airways

Please sir all my information is correct you are must stop editing if you don't trust me go to Kuwait airways Instagram page and check Aziz aldashti (talk) 14:25, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

You are not following WP:VERIFY. Do familiarise yourself with the core content policies. More information can be found in my last message at your talk.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:23, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

ANI continuation

I wanted someone to make a difference between both behaviours. I've never used uncivil language.

I recognize the difference, and I said so. I have no doubt others recognize the difference, while yet others wonder what all the fuss over words is about. The main point is that you can't really bring an ANI complaint unless your hands are clean—unless you did everything right—and the first thing to do right is "don't edit war". WP:DR details the alternatives. All of those options take longer, but there's no urgency. Anything but edit warring, and ANI should be a last resort.
Most of us need to work on dialing back the adrenaline when editing (and testosterone probably doesn't help).

This user is aware that, in the end, it's only Wikipedia.

―Mandruss ☎ 15:31, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

July 2016 Jetairfly

My edit came in the result of going on the Jetairfly page itself and notice it as mentioned Mohammed V International Airport as one of the focus cities and not a hub, since that airline is not an African airline.....Do you agree with the what I'm saying? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 33aircharter (talk • contribs) 18:25, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

No, I don't. You must follow WP:VERIFY if you want the change to stay and find a source backing it. Wikipedia is not based on such conjectures.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 18:53, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

33aircharter (talk) I understand you....point taken...Thanks —Preceding undated comment added 20:37, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

@33aircharter: Please note that I have not reverted your edit. Rather, I added a {{citation needed}} so that someone else can add a citation if they have one. Regards.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:48, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

33aircharter (talk) Thanks Jetstreamer I have notice it. —Preceding undated comment added 23:49, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Orlando

Hello Jetstreamer,

I have restarted the discussion about the long-going "Orlando airports" issue at WT:Airports. Your thoughts and opinions on the matter would be greatly appreciated! The discussion is here. Regards—172.58.40.42 (talk) 03:01, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

MEX jan-jun

http://www.aena.es/csee/Satellite?c=Page&cid=1113582476702&pagename=Estadisticas%2FEstadisticas. OFFICIAL SOURCE, ALSO TRYING TO IMPROVE WEBSITE CONTENT (no fraud), THANKS JEATSTREAMER. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usuario S.A.D (talk • contribs) 19:21, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm adding to the article the source you provided above.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:10, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

the book "Erebus" adn the Erebus crash

Regarding your deletion of the mention of the book "Erebus" from the Erebus crash page: I have the book physically in hand, I have read it. It is a tribute to a victim and an in-depth study of the tragedy. What more references do you need? Anyone interested can search it online by name, and the pubosihe3r is cited. 108.54.199.89 (talk) 14:39, 12 August 2016 (UTC) Peter

re your deletion of the "Erebus" book reference, I can't figure out how to add a footnote backing this up. I can provide an ISBN # and a Web link in the edit, will that suffice? 108.54.199.89 (talk) 14:58, 12 August 2016 (UTC)Peter

'Erebus' references added

Hi Jetstreamer, I figured out how to add the references and Web link to 'Erebus' so that has been completed. Hope that's all OK now. 108.54.199.89 (talk) 16:01, 12 August 2016 (UTC)Peter

Emirates plane crash

Hello Jetstreamer, Is it true that the plane of A6-EMW has been written off on Flight EK521 last week. I'm not sure, but I recently heard A6-EMO has been retired? Thank you. CZXCA (talk) 05:47, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Travel guide information?

You recently removed information from Turkish Airlines stating the WP:NOTRAVEL policy of which I am well aware. However, the information given has nothing to do with travel guide information but describes the aftermath of the coup d'etat attempt and how it affects the airline - there wasn't even routes or dates mentioned. I reworked the section and added additional sources explaining the just announced record loss and decline in passenger traffic due to the political situation. It hopes that makes clearer that this is not supposed to be guide information (which it clearly isn't according to the policy you quoted yourself). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.244.159.82 (talk) 16:23, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Ban user

Hi, can you, please, ban the user 2A00:4802:1E00:254:0:0:0:2 He is playing around and ruining the pages of the Bulgarian airports — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashine1984 (talk • contribs) 11:08, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

@Mashine1984: Hello there. I'm afraid I cannot do that since I'm not an administrator. Starting a discussion at the IP's talk is the first thing I'd do if I was you.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:38, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Jetstreamer, this person is keep making those changes and messing around despite that I've wrote him to stop it. Please, let me know what to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashine1984 (talk • contribs) 23:43, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

As far as I can see, they are introducing unreferenced information into the articles. Prior to an escalation I'd start a discussion at one of those article's talk if I was you.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 23:50, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Aerolíneas Argentinas fleet

LV-CEK isn't in the fleet since 08/2016 anymore

here are only 5 in the fleet

http://www.airfleets.es/flottecie/Aerolineas%20Argentinas.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sasha2881 (talk • contribs) 14:10, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Sena Gaston Adriel

I know it is a short block considering how often he edits. Please let me know if he persists and I will make the next one longer. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:07, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Anna. Regards.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 00:16, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Qingdao Airlines

I have reverted to my revised version which has the latest fleet info. Could not understand your reason for reversion. The info is from a journal not a website. Your reversion left the article inaccurate and not up to date. Ardfern (talk) 08:29, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

• Aha, I see the problem now - have corrected aircraft type to Airbus A320. Apologies Ardfern (talk) 08:36, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Latin American 10,000 Challenge invite

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Request for input

Hello Jetstreamer, would you like to contribute to this important discussion regarding the presence of references in the airport destination tables? Thanks. — Sunnya343✈ (háblame • my work) 16:25, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Kuwait Airways edit

So you have stated that my edit on the Kuwait Airways Wiki page did not conform to Wikipedia standards. I was going to cite all of my info, but by then it was too late and my edits were removed. By the way is a Tweet from the source itself credible enough? Oyylmao (talk) 16:21, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Read WP:RS and WP:TWITTER regarding your question.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 16:33, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Airport database

Hello Jetstreamer, I wanted to check if you know how to retrieve an airport database from ICAO or IATA. There are a lot of discrepancies in the names of Indian airports. For eg, Mangalore Airport (India) has been unanimously moved to Mangalore International Airport, AFAIK, there is no change in the name of the airport till date, but AAI website now displays the name as Mangaluru Airport. AAI website is actually factually wrong with airport names for many airports like BLR is listed as Bangalore International Airport wherein the official name is Kempegowda International Airport. Retrieving such database would really clear all the edit wars that take place wrt the names of the airports in India. Thanks, — LeoFrank  ^Talk 11:45, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Hello LeoFrank. Unfortunately I do not, but have you checked at List of airports by IATA and ICAO code?--Jetstreamer ^Talk 12:15, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

194.78.209.188

Hi Jetstreamer, I didn't like your reverts & messages. Apparently the multiple public sources I used and applied to update the pages do not match your view of 'contributing' to the philosophy of Wikipedia. In this way it doesn't motivate continuing contributing when it comes down to your personal judgement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.78.209.188 (talk) 09:53, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

I don't like your unsourced changes. Take a look at WP:VERIFY and WP:IC and then we can talk. You should also sign your posts [9].--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:17, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

User:Jetstreamer/Archived references/B–D

Hi sorry my bot is messing with your page, it's presenting a challenge due to the embedded {{date}} which I'm working on. -- GreenC 16:36, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me use your page as a test case for the bot. It's now done. I added a {{use dmy}} so the dates of {{webcite}} converted correctly. Currently {{webarchive}} doesn't support {{date}} embedded so those were removed but the dates render the same. -- GreenC 17:12, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

@Green Cardamom: Cool. Thanks for letting me know. Regards.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:37, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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Delta Air Lines fleet

Hello Jetstreamer, recently I've notice that an anonymous user is adding a planespotters source into this article and I think it's unsourced, if it's not, let me know it and I'll restore it. Thank you. RacheyFlies (talk) 02:32, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

@Jetstreamer I think the one who use Planespotters source is this: [10]

Have an issue

I am having an issue with an editors based on my contributions. On Frankfurt Airport, Lufthansa has resumed service to Cape Town on 2 December 2016 and aircraft types were listed for some destinations for LH but they keep getting reverted as these edits are "unsourced". Also on Cozumel International Airport, I removed the end date for Sunwing's seasonal service to YUL but it was reverted as an unsourced edit. The user gave me an inappropriate final warning on my talk page. I think I am being harassed/bullied. Can you take a look? 97.85.118.142 (talk) 16:21, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

I've taken care of the FRA stuff. I don't see any controversial edit with the other article, as the editor added ther termination date as specified by the source.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 16:32, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Egyptair recent order

hey there with regards to your msg ... we added the source.. US NEWS FOX NEWS BLOOMBERG NEWS ... we think its reliable sources if that is not enough we can send the confirmation from the plane itself looooool — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cairo770 (talk • contribs) 08:19, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

@Cairo770: You should have done this right from the start. Anyway, I wonder who are "we"? You should also sign your posts.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:29, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Airlines and destinations tables

Hello, I noticed you were leaning against the Airlines and destinations tables in airport articles. I have noticed some others feel the same way, including myself. Do you think we should have another discussion at WT:AIRPORTS; or should we take this higher, e.g. have an RfC? I was thinking about the following argument:

• Wikipedia is not a travel guide with up-to-date lists of places a person can fly to from a particular airport. WP:NOTTRAVEL
• The lists are changing regularly and are difficult to maintain. Some airports have so many airlines with so many destinations, it can be difficult to keep track of which still operate and which do not. As a consequence, the lists may be out of date; but this is not indicated with an "As of xxx" statement (nor would this be feasible with so many airlines).
  • For example, Jiangxi Air's destinations are only accurate as of September 2016; but the airport tables do not reflect this.
• The existing consensus is that there is an implicit reference for the information in the tables: the airlines' timetables. But how can the average reader be able to quickly find and verify this information, for so many airlines and destinations? And does the reader need to know every single destination served? WP:VERIFY
  • Especially in Indian airport articles, new destinations are often added without references – the timetable shows them, but there are no news articles, etc. that confirm it. A reader has to go into the timetable, set the origin/destination and the date – and, what if the destination appears at some earlier date? Imagine checking each prior date for that.

All in all, the tables are a hassle to maintain; and it is difficult for a reader to verify the information. In addition, I don't believe the reader needs to know every single destination served from an airport. As an alternative, I think mentioning only notable airlines (e.g. airlines hubbed at the airport) and notable destinations (e.g. an airport's only international destination) is enough.

Should anything be added/deleted/changed? — Sunnya343✈ (háblame • my work) 02:41, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

One way to avoid being a travel guide is to remove the lists of destinations served and to keep the airlines serving any given airport only.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 12:36, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

That sounds good. For example, it was easy to update the destinations for Air Guilin by looking at the list in the schedule; but clicking on each city, noting which destinations served, then putting that in the airport articles' tables – too much. I wonder how many of these tables for Chinese airports and the like are entirely outdated by now. — Sunnya343✈ (háblame • my work) 04:14, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Hello Jetstreamer: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Class455 (Merry Christmas!) 17:08, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message

@Class455: Thank you very much, and Merry Xmas to you too!--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:19, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Changes in austral destinations

Hi, sorry for not putting any references in my changes on that article, is that i do not know how to do it. If you check in "Austral lineas aereas" website you will see that the destinations I changed were correct, and one of them I knew it was wrong because i live in the city where austral serves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santi Bucchi (talk • contribs) 00:55, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Afriqiyah Airways Edit

Dear Jetstreamer,

I was trying to add the source but you had already deleted my edit by the time I was figuring it out.

I am a Maltese citizen and it is happening in my country right now.

While I understand your point, I think you were a bit rash in your decision to delete my edit. Would not have taken much time to verify.

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20161223/local/hijacked-libyan-plane-lands-in-malta.634664

Kind regards,

David — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidfrendo (talk • contribs) 13:25, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Re-add the edit with sources.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:27, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Copyvios and G12

In the future, if there's a copyvio as blatant as this one, please tag it for speedy deletion under WP:G12 instead of PRODing. Thanks! ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 01:38, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

@Patar knight: Actually, I surveyed the speedy deletion reasons in Twinkle but did not notice that G12 was at the end of the list. Got it.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 12:41, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:19, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

@Bzuk: Thank you very much. Season's greetings to you too!--Jetstreamer ^Talk 23:04, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

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Changing the Qatar Airways fleet

Hello ,

How are you ? I hope you're doing well . Please can you give me one reason that you change the fleet number of Qatar Airways ? from 192 to 190 ? I already put a VERIFIED SOURCE from Qatar Airways website ?!! the source is the Qatar Airways Monthly Fact Sheet !!! you can check it out ! this is the link QATAR AIRWAYS FACT SHEET (December 2016) ? so Give me one reason so that you can change the fleet number ? this is the second time that i change it and then you come to change it ! , I think I should have official letter from QR to tell you that the QR FACT SHEET IS A OFFICIAL SOURCE .

Thank you , Have a great day !

MatarBinSultan (talk) 18:22, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

@MatarBinSultan: You are absolutely right. I've fixed my error and reinstated your edits.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 19:47, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

@Jetstreamer:  Thanks for your cooperation

Have a great day !

MatarBinSultan (talk) 07:04, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Jetstreamer!

Happy New Year!

Jetstreamer,
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Unsourced additions from 194.78.209.188

Hi JetStreamer, I do not like your messages about my contributions (in line with the philosophy of Wkipedia) as all my contributions are based on publicly available data & news (for example of the updated airline etc.) but apparently you do not like that or think you 'own the pages' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.78.209.188 (talk) 21:36, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

I don't like both your addition of unsourced information and your lack of knowledge about the Wikipedia policies.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 23:49, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Aviation Stubs

Hi, the reason I add stub tags articles (especially ones that can be added to with translation of a different article) is b/c 1)Some are, by definition, stubs 2)they are flagged as aviation accident stubs so they have a greater chance of being lengthened 3)they can easily be found in Category:Aviation accident stubs to await addition 4)People like me can find them in such category and edit them when translation of other article or source is available. Currently searching for somebody who is very fluent in Russian to complete Aeroflot crash articles, and an EgyptAir crash article. I do eventually ad to the articles, putting them in the stub category helps me find what needs expansion. For example, I edited Aeroflot Flight 3843 to a point it was no longer a stub b/c in was in the category PlanespotterA320 (talk) 13:48, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

@PlanespotterA320: Ok, but mind WP:HERE.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:04, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Aeroflot 331

I noticed you deleted my table and un-did my edits. I provided the source, but you said they were unsourced and I can't undo edit. [1] Катастрофа Ил-62М ЦУ МВС близ Гаваны (Куба) [Accident Il-62M Havana] (in Russian). airdisaster.ru. Retrieved 7 August 2012. I save it ever couple of minutes b/c my computer crashes a lot, please wait an hour or two before you delete edits. Please undo the rollback, the source [1] was at the bottom of the table. PlanespotterA320 (talk) 15:19, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

BA destinations edit

Per your diff here, can you please explain why you are violating the long-standing WP policy at WP:DERRY? Regardless of the reference may say, the city is referred to as Derry on Wikipedia and the county is referred to as Londonderry. We are discussing BA's destinations and the reference says Londonderry, but we aren't quoting from the reference, and to promote consistency, we should use Derry per the MOS. --st170e 13:17, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

@St170e: I'm not against the use of Derry if there's an explanatory note. As you said, Londonderry is the name supported by the source (and not Derry) so there's no violation to WP:VERIFY, which requires material to be directly supported by the reference. Please also note that even though Londonderry is visible in the article there's a piped link that links to Derry. I think this is not a violation to WP:DERRY either.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:18, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your reply! If we use Londonderry for every source we use on WP, there would be a lack of consistency which is why I changed it initially (the MOS aims for consistency too). It is still the same city, it's just that (for the name controversy), there are guidelines for how we should avoid controversies like this. The source still backs the reference up anyway, regardless of the name. st170e 15:51, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

@St170e: As I said above, I'm not against the use of Derry but the source does not directly support it. Does an explanatory note work for you if you change it back to Derry? Or maybe a hidden note so we do not disrupt the article?--Jetstreamer ^Talk 16:39, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

That's fine with me, an explanatory note would be good to explain that Londonderry is used in the source. --st170e 18:41, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Matter settled [11].--Jetstreamer ^Talk 19:58, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Austral Líneas Aéreas Flight 2553,

There must be some mistake.

I have never even visited the page for Austral Líneas Aéreas Flight 2553, I have never edited an item in Wikipedia. In fact this is the first time I have used this facility 9Wikipedia edit)

Regards

John ^^^^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.171.97.115 (talk) 02:36, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

See this [12] diff. Either you or someone using your IP made the edit.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:09, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Aerolíneas Argentinas/LAN Airlines codeshare

There is no Codeshare between Aerolineas Argentinas and LAN. You can see this on centreforaviation.com

LAN Airlines has been removed from Codeshare Partners.

https://centreforaviation.com/profiles/airlines/aerolineas-argentinas-ar

Codeshare Partners

Aeromexico Air Europa Lineas Aereas Air France Air New Zealand Delta Air Lines Etihad Airways Gol KLM Royal Dutch Airlines Korean Air — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sasha2881 (talk • contribs) 15:13, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

@Sasha2881:

• You should explain your removals
• You should add a title to any thread you start
• You should sign your posts
• I already asked you not to send me private e-mails

--Jetstreamer ^Talk 17:44, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Air Serbia awards mention

Saw you rolled back the edit adding a mention of the Air Transport World award on the Air Serbia page. Could you tell me what in particular this was in violation of? What do you think of this shorter mention? Feel its worth adding considering ATW awards are held in high regard in the industry.

Awards and recognitions On 24 January 2017, Air Transport World named Air Serbia as the recipient of its 2017 Airline Market Leader award. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jujr (talk • contribs) 14:13, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Read WP:AIRLINE-CONTENT on what to include in airline articles.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:17, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Says its a guideline, not a policy. There are plenty of airline pages that mention awards and recognitions, see Aerosur and IndiGo. The Air Transport World awards are pretty renowned, what is wrong with including a factual news reference about the winners?--Jujr (talk) 14:34, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

WP:SOAPBOX and WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I suggest you to start a discussion at WT:AIRLINE so others can give their opinion on the matter.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:37, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2017_January_28#Template:History_of_Kerala_Airports_here

I honestly do not think how this template would be useful. Please do comment your opinion on the deletion discussion page. — LeoFrank  ^Talk 04:15, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Reverted edit on Malawian Airlines destinations page.

Hi Jetstreamer, I want to know that why you reverted my edit on Malawian Airlines page?? Was there something wrong in the edit I had done? If so, then please tell me. Thank You! FlyJet777 (talk) 17:23, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

In the first place you unexplainedly deleted the {{Dts}} format in the destinations table. Secondly, this table was up to date until October 2016 as the supporting source was last acceesed that month. Finally, the number of destinations is six until new routes are opened. Regarding the first item, you should not modify templates in articles until you gain experience on it. In most of the cases they do have a purpose. Regards.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 17:42, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

@Jetstreamer: Hi there, Thank You for telling me the reason for my edit. :) By the way, what do you think about my edits on Wikipedia? Need explanation or good work? Thank You! FlyJet777 (talk) 05:58, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

I've surveyed on them and they are good. What I like most is that you source all of your edits. Keep up the good work!--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:28, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

@Jetstreamer: Thank You very much for the complement. :) I will always provide source for every content I edit on Wiki. By the way.... Are you an administrator? FlyJet777 (talk) 18:04, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

No, I'm not an admin. One more thing: there's no need to ping me if you contact me at my talk.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 20:06, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Ownership of Content

Work submitted to Wikipedia can be edited, used, and redistributed—by anyone. Also see WP:OWN Xylo kai Gyali (talk) 17:09, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Of course you can edit anything you want, but without breaking a core policy. You do not set the rules here but the community as a whole does. Start a thread at WP:ANI if you think I own the article.--Jetstreamer ^Talk

Bulgaria Air destinations and Bul Air

Hi ! I add information about Bul Air wich is a new Bulgaria Air charter brand since 2016 like Aviolet and Air Serbia. I add correct references but the edit is deleted. I post here because from this summer season Bulgaria Air will be add 4 more aircraft to Bul Air fleet: 1 737-400 from Cargoair (who is waiting for conversion to cargo version and for summer season will be operated for Bul Air) and 3 737 retired from Enter. Bul Air fleet will be increase to 6 aircrafts. Also I edit section of Bulgaria Air charter destionations and information is deleted. I will be glad to discusion the page. Regards Dimitrakizzz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimitrakizzz (talk • contribs) 16:39, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

I reverted this [13] edit because it introduced unsourced changes. You should source your modifications.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 20:38, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Reversion Air Mauritius Destination, Amsterdam

Hi, I would like to point out that within the source I have selected for this edit there is a part that says that from 28 March 2018, the Amsterdam-Mauritius route will be flown by a Air Mauritius Airbus A340. KLM will operate the winter schedule and Air Mauritius will operate this route in the sommer schedule. Why are you still reversing my edit, stating that Amsterdam Schiphol is a Air Mauritius Destination from 28 March 2018. JoeriB92 (talk) 10:59, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

@JoeriB92: You're right. I've reinstated your edit.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 11:57, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Varna and Burgas airports

Hi Jetstreamer ! First for Burgas airport:

Bulgaria Air doesnt operated Burgas and Varna flights in summer timetable. The airline only relocated aircrafts for charter schedules. Check Bulgaria Air website.

SunExpress Deutschland begins seasonal flights from Cologne, Dusseldorf, Nuremberf and Stuttgart check SunExpress website the tickets are opern for booking and flights to Hamburg and Hannover to Burgas is not added in summer schedule.

Dniproavia flights to Burgas are chart not schedule. Also check Dniproavia website.

Condor flights to Burgas from Leipzig and Frankfurt also is open for booking on Condor website.

Other flights in charter section who I added is available for check on Burgas airport website -- schedule. I added only Seasonal charter flights for all summer season.

Varna airport:

SunExpress Deutschland ended Vienna service this year also available for checkon SunExpress website.

Charter flights also are available for check on Varna airport website.

I edit Burgas and Varna airport pages from 7 years ago. Every information for airline or destination are correct. Can you help me how to create reference with Burgas airport schedule search !?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimitrakizzz (talk • contribs)

@Dimitrakizzz: You can take a look at WP:IC to learn how to add inline citations. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any question. Regards.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:13, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi again ! Can you look Burgas Airport page its ok with edits ? I added link with Burgas airport schedule search. Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimitrakizzz (talk • contribs)

@Dimitrakizzz: Ideally, each item must have its own citation. Separately, you should use --~~~~ to sign your posts. You may also want to see WP:SIGN regarding this.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:11, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

TAAG Angola Airlines destinations

Someone keeps on adding 'Houston' to this page. Houston is not a destination of TAAG > Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bundubear (talk • contribs) 12:27, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

@Bundubear: Just ridiculous.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 17:28, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Messages to IP addresses

I opened Wikipedia at work, Concordia University Ann Arbor, and saw a "User talk" page message from you.

I need to tell you that Concordia assigns the IP address on the fly from a large pool of them. From day-to-day, and from machine-to-machine, there is no consistency.

The message you sent, "use reliable references", was not seen by the editor who made the unreferenced change.

This is very often the case with IP address users. They are at libraries, or places such as this university.

I suggest that you refrain from such messages, as much more often than not they are going to people such as myself, and are not helpful just annoying. I have been editing Wikipedia since Jan 2006, have made over 6000 edits, and always reference. I am a professional research scientist, and *know* how to reference.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.60.34.200 (talk • contribs)

It seems you edit Wikipedia not as often as to know that you should sign your posts. Regarding your message, I suggest you to create an account to avoid further warning messages. I won't stop sending such messages to editors that do not follow a basic policy.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:40, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

RFA

Thanks for your confidence. Unfortunately, I cannot accept your nomination right now as I'm left with little or no time due to personal issues.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 16:21, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Level Airline

Please, do not rollback all the information... if there is a mistake correct them, don't do "the easy way" --by---->Javierito92 (Talk to me) 16:30, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

@Javierito92: There was nothing correct in your edits, so they were entirely removed. The dates you added were not supported by the companion source. Read WP:VERIFY, which is a policy.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 17:23, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Editing

I appreciate your editing tips. However, your authoritarian wind bagging and sarcasm is uncalled for. You're an editor, not a school teacher; Please don't act like one.Bundubear (talk) 09:53, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

@Bundubear: Basic knowledge on how to use references is expected. Otherwise, you consume other's time in fixing your mistakes.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 11:43, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Air Algerie

I received your message as below.

"Please do not add or change content, as you did at Air Algérie, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing..."

Please note that the detail i added is from Planespotters.net

Link is as below. I hope it is a reliable source.

https://www.planespotters.net/production-list/search?fleet=Air-Algerie&manufacturer=Boeing&type=747&fleetStatus=historic

you can verify and the same in the fleet list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guysbenny (talk • contribs) 12:16, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Planespotters is not a reliable source. But even if it was, you did not reference your additions with it.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:36, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Air New Zealand Flight 901

I'm a bit confused as to why you reverted my changes. The source was the very Privy Council case quoted. The current version is surely somewhat misleading in not reaffirming that it is the general consensus now that it was indeed ' “appalling blunders and deficiencies” by the airline (not the flight crew) “had caused the loss of 257 lives” '.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncameron (talk • contribs)

@Ncameron: Can you please add (or point to) the spefici page? Thanks.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:38, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Equipment vs Aircraft

I reverted your edit on Air Afrique because it does not even make sense in British English. I suggest you take a look at the meanings of the words "equipment" and "aircraft" on http://dictionary.cambridge.org/. They are not exactly interchangable: The sentence "Airline XYZ previously operated DC-3 equipment" can possibly mean the airline didn't actually fly the DC-3, but merely used "the set of necessary tools, clothing, etc. for a particular purpose:" (ie, perhaps operated any component of the DC-3 aircraft, or used parts from the DC-3 in some way. This makes no sense, hence the wording needed to be changed aircraft:"any vehicle, with or without an engine, that can fly, such as a plane or helicopter") while saying "Airline XYZ previously operated DC-3 aircraft" is much clearer in meaning, more coherent and logical. You left no good reason to use this strange wording that almost seems like it was spat out by google translate when clearer, encyclopedic wording replaced it.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 01:28, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

@PlanespotterA320: Just take a look at the following article [14] and pay special attention to the title. You won't need a translation to read it. Equipment is a widely used term in the aviation industry.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:33, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

"Equipment is a widely used term in the aviation industry" yes, thats the problem. The reason that article said "equipment" was because it was referring to more that just aircraft (everything associated with aircraft). When just talking about an aircraft used on a specific route, "equipment" is a bizzare term to use; would never be used normally by a native english speaker as opposed to "aircraft. Again, the phrase "Example Airlines previously operated DC-3 equipment" is improper and vague (it could mean the airline didn't actually use the actual plane on a route, technically speaking. They could have just used parts from the DC-3 for ground operations) "Example Airlines previously operated DC-3 aircraft" is more logical. If nessesary I will appeal this issue to a third party; I have already spoken to several English teachers at my school and they agree with me. Most of the time when talking about aircraft used, the term "aircraft" is used, not "equipment"

Examples: http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/air-transport/2017-01-09/malaysia-airlines-order-25-widebodies-2017 "Malaysia Airlines Berhad (MAB) has returned to expansion mode and plans to order 25 widebody aircraft by the end of the year, according to chief executive Peter Bellew." if the sentence said "Malaysia Airlines Berhad (MAB) has returned to expansion mode and plans to order 25 widebody equipment by the end of the year, according to chief executive Peter Bellew." in a lack of proper context, one might conclude they were ordering maintenance materials associated with widebody aircraft, not actual aircraft.

http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2016/10/08/qatar-airways-boeing-order/ The title is "Qatar Airways Orders Up To 100 New Boeing Planes" not "Qatar Airways Orders Up To 100 New Boeing equipment"; the latter makes less sense

https://www.emirates.com/us/english/about/news/order-boeing.aspx Title is "Emirates’ $76 billion Boeing aircraft order a boost to US aviation industry" not "Emirates’ $76 billion Boeing equipment order a boost to US aviation industry"; the latter makes less sense

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/qatar-commits-to-up-to-100-boeing-aircraft-in-186-430162/ Title is "Qatar commits to up to 100 Boeing aircraft in $18.6 billion order" not "Qatar commits to up to 100 Boeing equipment in $18.6 billion order"; the latter makes less sense

Stop insisting on using improper and bizzare; it is downright destructive to the purpose of Wikipedia.PlanespotterA320 (talk) 13:49, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Toa Airways

Stop being such a deletionist. If a citiation is lacking in the article but present in a linked article, (like Toa Airways) you could copy that citation instead of reverting it or tag as "Citation needed" so someone else can fix it. You deleted information that you knew was correct based on the link when adding a citation would have been more beneficial to the Wikipedia project. And I notice most of your contributions are reverting other peoples edits, not actually adding content to the encyclopedia. If you need ideas on how to actually improve Wikipedia I can give you a list of articles that need to be created.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 14:37, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

@PlanespotterA320: You can look at my page to brief yourself about my contributions, including good articles and DYKs. Regarding the article, and as I once told you, you need to follow the WP:VERIFY policy here. This is not your personal website.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:41, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

I occasionally forget to provide citations. If anything, you seem to act as though this is you personal website. Regardless, deletionist behavior is damaging to Wikipedia and it is better to provide citations for easily verifiable material than to delete it on a whim.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 14:44, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

I'm certainly not gonna do your work for you.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:45, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

AfD withdrawn

Hi, Jetstreamer. I closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of defunct airlines of Faroe Islands as "withdrawn." If this was not the intent of your comment there, let me know. — CactusWriter ^(talk) 15:10, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

@CactusWriter: It was actually, thank you.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 19:20, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Destination map: Air Namibia

The German page of Air Namibia includes a destination map. It's been approved there. So what difference does it make? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bundubear (talk • contribs) 14:18, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

This is not the German Wikipedia but the English one.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 18:57, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Help at Discussion

Hi. Can you please join this discussion regarding the directness of a direct flight ? Since you are well informed and expert in aviation, you can give better opinions to the initiator of this discussion or to me. But so far, I think all my claims are accurate and verifiable. It would be great to have you at the discussion. Vibhss (talk) 17:49, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Question

Should final destination of a direct flight starting from a foreign destination making a layover at the primary hub of its airline and then flying to secondary hub (in the same country in which primary hub is located) be included in destination table of the "foreign airport" ? Or in the reverse, should originating point of a direct flight starting from secondary hub making a layover at primary hub and then flying non-stop to a foreign destination should be included in destination table of that "foreign airport" ? Do these violate bullet #7 ? Vibhss (talk) 19:31, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

I only checked the JFK-DEL-BOM flight (AI102) on AI's online timetable, and I'd tend to inlude BOM as a destination from JFK since the airline considers it a direct flight.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 19:55, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

@Jetstreamer: Would you like to have your final word in this discussion ? It can help achieve consensus quickly. Vibhss (talk) 13:45, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

TAAG Angola Airlines destinations

They do NOT fly to Dubai anymore. Read your Wikipedia entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bundubear (talk • contribs) 13:16, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

The supporting source says otherwise. Read WP:VERIFY and WP:VNT.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC)