User talk:M.boli

This user has some number of edits to Wikipedia articles, creating reliably sourced content written with what this editor hopes is neutral pov and establishing notability. This editor also reverts vandalism, edits copy, and uses cite templates. I also spoof {{wp:overuse}} of those infernal links (which are colored #0645AD).

After twelve years I get to display a {{Journeyman Editor}} template, but I decline to do so.

It feels good to contribute to a worthwhile project.

M.boli (talk) 18:59, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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2 over 0: Was creating a talk page for me a Wikignomic activity, or is there a more specific message I am not seeing? M.boli (talk) 19:22, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just wikignoming - I just saw your redlinked talkpage pop up on some article I have watchlisted. Your edits look like you are here to improve the encyclopedia, so welcome! And thank you for finding a non-404 copy of that paper on my userpage - it is good fun. - 2/0 (cont.) 15:02, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. It is not clear why a slob like me takes satisfaction in cleaning up references. But it was nice to be ever so slightly recognized. M.boli (talk) 19:42, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chip Berlet

Most cited sources are primary sources. According to the guidelines on Notability; "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published[3] secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." I question the reliability and independence of the secondary sources. Counteraction (talk) 18:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:J Street

Sorry, I missed a few operative words in your remark and as a result misread you, as was pointed out by another editor. My apologies! Drmies (talk) 04:58, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Righto! Thanks. M.boli (talk) 09:29, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Prairie State Energy Campus

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File copyright problem with File:EGRID subregion map.gif

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Thanks. I am learning how to do this. M.boli (talk) 02:53, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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If you have other questions about citations, including citations that aren't pubmed indexed, please feel free to drop by my talk page and ask, I'll do my best to help. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:^simple/_complex 14:15, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

(Talkback removed) TransporterMan (TALK) 20:05, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! I thank you muchly. It makes me proud to be a Wikipedian, the way people put in effort and make the enterprise work so well. M.boli (talk) 22:51, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Recent revert of my addition to Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change

I saw you edited some of my additions, which so far i think was good. But with this entirely removing it from the wiki was a bit much. The wiki is about funding from exxon so why remove latest news about funding from exxon? Can we add the funding section and clean it up a bit? What do you think? Gise-354x (talk) 02:27, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that Exxon's funding is pertinent. But paragraph 3 of the article as it exists now is devoted entirely to Exxon funding and cites several sources. It seemed to me that the paragraph you added was duplicating this information. However, looking more closely:

I just cleaned up paragraph 3 on Exxon funding somewhat, as some of its references didn't support its statements. For example, the Salon.com article mentioned funding for other organizations, but not this one.
I think you had references that were more current than the existing ones, which end about 2005 or so. I think that one of your cites was more recent, no? If it has more recent data, it seems to me that adding it back would enhance that paragraph.

So it seems to me you are right, there is work that can be done. M.boli (talk) 02:57, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I added more precise numbers and sources about the funding, is that ok with you? Gise-354x (talk) 03:30, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! You found out quite a bit more about funding, and relevant statements from the principals to boot! I agree with you that what you added is pertinent. Minor note: I notice one place in the Exxon section where you seem to have an editing glitch, I think the reference seems to be run into the text instead of inside of ref tags. M.boli (talk) 03:44, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks i fixed it, btw i found the information here http://sourcewatch.org Gise-354x (talk) 03:50, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Singer

Before you redirected Singer to a disambiguation page, based on a discussion among a grand total of two users several months ago, did you happen to notice that over 18,000 other Wikipedia articles use the link "Singer"? All of those links now need to be reviewed and corrected. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:57, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes! A truly novice mistake. I'll undo it right away.

Here is a question: should I put a hatnote directing to Singer (disambiguation) at the top of the Singing page? The two comments on the talk page address what seems to be a problem: since Singer redirected to Singing, it was hard to get to the Singer (disambiguation) page. Nobody would get there by accident.

I'll revert, and see if you have any suggestion. I thank you muchly for letting me know. M.boli (talk) 22:19, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your quick response. I believe that Singing already has a hatnote to Singer (disambiguation) at the top of it. If I'm mistaken, though, it would definitely need one. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 22:30, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed it does have the hatnote. Which was a puzzlement. It seems that earlier today part of Singer starting from Line 1 was blanked. I happened to search for Singer and fell into Singing while Singing was still in its vandalized hatnote-less state. M.boli (talk) 22:48, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Booker

Regarding your recent edit on International Conference on Climate Change. Yes, the material would be better in the Booker article. I should have thought of that. -Thoughtfortheday (talk) 14:32, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

East Chicago

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Thanks for the feedback

Thanks for the comment regarding the "minor edit" button. I see your point. Jellypear (talk) 12:49, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I edited Wong Chin Foo

Hi, M.boli. I changed the reference's website address.UncleRaydonteatbreakfast (talk) 01:52, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Linus's Law

Hi! I just wanted to say sorry, you're totally right about this revert. Silly me, I actually did have a cursory glance at the sources and I tried searching for "linus" and "raymond" there, but I had "match case" turned on so it didn't find the capitalized words. :) -- intgr [talk] 13:52, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Righto! Bloopers happen. But as long as we are in aggregate improving the thing all is good, no? M.boli (talk) 18:03, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent editing

Excellent editing on Portia Li! You cleaned my messes and organized the article in a much more coherent manner. Thank you so much. The Very Best Regards,

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Thank you. But all I did was rearrange what you had already researched and written. I agree that Li's career is worthy of a Wikipedia page. M.boli (talk) 07:49, 29 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The wonderful pungent world of Kimchi

I did indeed find a ref from a cooking symposium in 2010, which should address the infinite kimchi variety issue..I often tell people there are as many varieties of kimchi as there are curries and chilisCoal town guy (talk) 01:46, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Adding Mabel Ping-Hua Lee to the List of Chinese Americans

@M.boli: thank you for your edit! I totally didn't pick up on that, thank you for noticing. Just pinging you back to remind you to add her back to the list of Chinese Americans in alphabetical order when you have a chance. Apologies for disrupting the order, still new and learning ! 169.156.16.223 (talk) 17:11, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

She is there, after another Lee and before Wong Chin Foo. Really a great person to read about. Do you know her Chinese name? I was looking around but couldn't find it. M.boli (talk) 17:21, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Righto! Thanks. – M.boli (talk) 22:15, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you! ~~Gooder~~ Much better (and simpler) to use the markup language. I'll keep that in mind.--M.boli (talk) 14:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The sentence you deleted was supported by even the title of the reference added at the same time. I agree it can be clearer to attach a ref tag to every sentence, so now I did that. I think reading and perhaps fixing things up if warranted is often more productive than immediately deleting and posting accusations. -- M.boli (talk) 16:36, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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You deleted the "lingerie" item, but I Googled the terms for Cawthorne and got 295,000 hits. 16-18,000 viewers were on the page on the two days when you made the deletions, and you were the only one to have a problem with it. I'm going to revert your deletions and suggest we can take it to Talk if you have a problem with it. Activist (talk) 04:25, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

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Darnestown

I have no problem with you removing any suspicious External Links from the Darnestown, Maryland page. Based solely on his talk page, it appears that the user that recently added the External Link has a history of inappropriate external links. TwoScars (talk) 21:15, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Righto, thanks! I removed it. -- M.boli (talk) 03:43, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He's at it again.... TwoScars (talk) 19:59, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Please refrain from making abusive or otherwise inappropriate edit summaries, as you did to Alex Epstein (American writer). Your edit summary may have been removed. Please look at pages regarding Civility and Personal attacks in your spare time. Thank you. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 16:06, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Thebiguglyalien: I guess the objection is: using "gibberish" to describe what I was removing? OK, I can see how could be over the top. Righto. -- M.boli (talk) 16:34, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and one other one where something said by the subject of the article was referred to as "dumb", which could be taken as inflammatory. I apologize, it's on me for not specifying why I substituted this template. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 16:39, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. I don't see that one as being over the top, but I do see that it wasn't a contribution to civility in edit summaries. It is ironic in the sense that I was trying to be fair to the subject of the article -- Epstein -- by restoring Epstein's response to a criticism. And at the same time I called it 'dumb'. Anyway, point taken. -- M.boli (talk) 18:13, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The syntax of that paragraph reads very strange and I think it should be re-worded. That's what I was trying to accomplish regardless of that article's topic. Snickers2686 (talk) 20:00, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm... Maybe split it into two sentences?

"The prosecution of Hu was led by Casey Arrowood, an assistant U.S. Attorney. In 2022 Arrowood was nominated ..."

Something like that? I think the problem may be that Arrowood hadn't been mentioned earlier in the article. If he had already been identified as the prosecutor, it would be less strange to lead off a paragraph with his nomination without mentioning why he is here in this article. -- M.boli (talk) 20:39, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@M.boli: The way you structured it above sounds good to me, as the two sentences. Snickers2686 (talk) 23:20, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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NPOV, wp:newsorg, and controversial topics

I understand your dependence (and that of others) on RS to defend the characterization of Project Veritas (given the controversy involved) as far-right activism. However, I disagree on this characterization, and I would appreciate it if you could take the time to consider my position. My contention is as follows: 1) mass media sources cannot be considered RS when discussing a competing platform/source (see wp:newsorg), and academic sources are not NPOV until proven otherwise (especially when they themselves either provide no justification for characterizations or again rely on news media for definitions); 2) the characterizations are based on flawed definitions (by all definitions, PV is gotcha journalism, not activism); and 3) PV itself has not actively engaged in or called for minimalist government or reactionary social policy, and while it does seem to associate with reactionary groups, it is not truly far-right (which, in opposition to things like totalitarian socialism and Communism, would advocate for minimalist or completely absent government).

I am, of course, discussing my position with you (and I will do so with other editors) in order to resolve a dispute amicably and reach a resolution.

It seems to me that the characterization of PV depends heavily on quotations from news media sources (again, see wp:newsorg), which given wp:rs, is considered reliable only for statements of fact (e.g. the reported death/injury toll from the scene of a car crash), and not necessarily for characterizations of competing sources/platforms. I should note that even the Virginia Law Review's article cites no supporting evidence to justify the far-right characterization. The Columbia Journalism Review's article bases its characterization of PV on articles from the Washington Post, whose position, per wp:newsorg, seems to call its RS status into question.

With regards to activism, none of those sources actually called PV activists, but rather outlets or groups, which would lend support to my position that PV is gotcha journalism, not activism.Ecthelion83 (talk) 15:53, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My problem main problem with "far-right" is that the term is often used for neo-nazis, white supremacists, christian identity, and similar movements. This is reflected in the Wikipedia article far-right politics. Though many sources characterize PV as "far-right" I don't see the sources lumping PV in with those parts of the political/ideological swimming pool. I think, as a personal observation, that a generic "right-wing" would be more accurate. My evidence being PV's popularity in the general right wing media. But considering the large number of sources that say "far-right" I think the best editing decision is to keep the term and not-wikilink it.
Regarding "gotcha journalism" I still claim what PV does isn't journalism.
Regarding "activist" I'm not understanding the objection. PV undertakes actions to further its societal and political goals. It isn't a think-tank, it isn't a polling organization, it isn't a debating society. It is activism.

Regardless, I'm more inclined to discuss on the PV talk page. It can be difficult, some editors try to dominate the discussion, but I think that is best. I've made my argument with regard to "far-right" and "journalism" there, and you have made yours. -- M.boli (talk) 17:55, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please review your edit at Thomas More Society

Your recent addition to the Thomas More Society page, while well-intended, has some problem aspects that need to be addressed.... and as I am avoiding article editing at this point, I'm asking that you review and address these problems (listed in decreasing order of importance.)

The biggest one is that you cite a TMS press release as facts about the actions of the people they are suing. This is a WP:BLPSPS infraction, as a press release is self-published and the people being sued are alive. Really, the statements of one side in a lawsuit should never be taken as fact -- they are literally going to court over it.
You quote a TMS representative directly from the press release. Generally, we want to be citing some third-party source to indicate that the selected quote is of import.
You past-tensed ("represented") a matter that is ongoing.

Let me know if you have any questions. --Nat Gertler (talk) 17:42, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@NatGertler: Thanks! I've prepared an edit with the first two changes. I'll be working on the third soon.Tha

About representing allegations in TMS press release (and the filing) as facts. That was really sloppy of me! Is it OK to change the wording to say these are allegations? I completely see the problem here, but I'm not sure if that is an adequate fix or I should do something else. I also reorderd the references so the press release comes 2nd, after the Slate article describing the same thing. Which doesn't technically make a difference, but might cause the reader to encounter the secondary news source before the press release.
I don't have as much problem with "represented", but anyway I changed the tense to "is representing". I had to add "as-of". The text had to be rearranged a bit, but I think this works.
I don't see much problem with quoting the TMS press release about the intentions of the TMS. But I do see the point that if a secondary source reported on the matter, it is more likely to be worthy of inclusion. The Texas Tribune reported on that aspect of the case also (it is at the end of the article). Texas Tribune isn't in the reliable/perennial soruces list, but it doesn't seem sketchy, so I'll add that reference.

Let me know if you see more that needs doing, or this is inadequate, or other suggestions. -- M.boli (talk) 19:12, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly better, but not perfect. The Texas Tribune may be a reliable source, but it does not contain the quote nor even mention the person being quoted, and should not be positioned as the source of the quote. The quote itself is unneeded, as the description of the suit already contains the positioning of medicated abortion as murder, and the mention that they want to rope in the manufacturer; we don't need a PR spin repetition of that.

And speaking of repetition, "The plaintiff alleges they aided the ex-wife in obtaining the drugs for medical abortion, allegedly resulting in wrongful death.[22][23] Alleging that assisting a self-managed abortion is murder, the suit was brought pursuant to wrongful death statutes rather than S.B. 8 the anti-abortion vigilante act" seems redundant, if only because you are repeating things that you already said before over again. You can strip the closing "allegedly resulting in wrongful death" out of the first sentence. (I'd probably also replacing the "Alleging" that starts the second sentence with "Asserting", as it's not making the claim to specific fact that "allege" is generally used for, but rather putting forth a legal perspective.)

Also, probably best not to refer to the law as "SB 8", which was a fine reference before it passed, but once it became a law it has its own reference information, but is probably best referred to as the Texas Heartbeat Act. (Besides, with "SB 8" reference is only unique within the Senate term; there have been other Texas SB 8's before and will be again.)

Looking at the Slate piece, I see that the Society is just part of the team. So maybe you can change the start to "In 2023, TMS joined in representing..." which gives you that never-has-to-be-updated past tense that you like (the joining has already taken place), but also paints a more accurate picture.

Sorry if some of this seems like nitpicking, but we have to be careful of promotional spin when it comes to a press release-issuing organization. --Nat Gertler (talk) 20:34, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All improvements! Much less sludgy now. I left the Breen quote. I don't see it as promotional spin so much as revealing the More Society's maximalist agenda. But I removed his fancy titles, which did read a little peacocky. The wikilink now says Texas Heartbeat Act, which is where it went before. I moved "S.B. 8" to a parenthetical because that is the name which appeared in the news so that is what most people will know. -- M.boli (talk) 22:59, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, now you've given Breen an unsourced description; the press release does not say that he's a lawyer on this case. (And check the wikilink you've given him; it goes to a disambiguation page, and none of the disambiguees (?) appear to be him at quick glance.) --Nat Gertler (talk) 23:19, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dang! Thank you. I grabbed one of Breen's titles from the press release with the quote. Fixed the DAB link. He is one of the lawyers, but I don't want to include the court filing itself as a reference. This is the TMS article, so wanted to include some TMS-specific quote. -- M.boli (talk) 00:38, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Then find a quote selected by a reliable third party source. We're not here to act as a megaphone for everything the society wants to say. I did a Google search on the quote, and it as a pull quote from Wikipedia was not just the first source, it was put in huge lettering, as your placement of it there made it important. I found other sources using the news, but the ones I had access to were ones that have already been deprecated at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard -- the Catholic News Agency, LifeSite News. The fact that it is not popping up in strongly reliable sources is an indication that it shouldn't be included even in an article on this particular case... much less a single paragraph about the case in another article. --Nat Gertler (talk) 01:15, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I'll drop the quote. I did not write about the case in the Peter Breen article, the reference documents his current job. That article left off with his leaving the legislature. -- M.boli (talk) 02:52, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. What you added to the Breen article looked fine; current employment is basic information, and the Society is a reliable source for who their employees are. Be well! --Nat Gertler (talk) 04:13, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you please see the talk page and also return "far right" (with its citation) to the 1st sentence thanks? 76.143.192.237 (talk) 21:23, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think you can put it in the first sentence of the lede yourself? I reverted it out the shortdesc, maybe you had put it there by mistake. M.boli (talk) 21:27, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think I did put it wrong the first time. When I tried to put it right I got an edit conflict notice with your changes and I didn't want to step on you fixing things so I asked you to do it in case you were still restoring other words, please? 76.143.192.237 (talk) 21:30, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Righto! Good point. I also noted that on the talk page. -- M.boli (talk) 21:37, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I find it incredibly funny you are being accused by that IP for working for ActBlue when we know that's someone else.

Either way, I've reached out to them on their talk page. If they don't take my advice, then a simple trip to AN/I would probably fix the issue. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 17:54, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Righto! Thank you.

It is interesting that the ActBlue article seems to have a history of interested people leaving suggestions to that talk page, rather than editing the article themselves.

I'm mildly puzzled that no journalists seem to have picked up the challenge raised by O'Keefe. Are there really records of serial donations that the recorded donor has no knowledge of? And if so, what would cause that? My best guess is that O'Keefe has discredited himself sufficiently that nobody from the legit news media bothered to follow-up.

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Adding "nyah" in my sarcastic summary of your post, and writing "aggravates you," was going too far. I apologize. It effectively labeled a summary of your argument as a summary of your feelings. Which, perforce, then feels like a personal attack. That was wrong.

I do not have a history of uncivil behavior and previous warnings. Perhaps the alerts about "contentious topics" confused you, I was following updates to the contentious topics procedures and whatnot. None are responses to any particular discussion I was involved with. I see one complaint from an editor, which I noted had some merit.

We return now to the Ken Paxton talk page, where I see you have clarified your argument somewhat. -- M.boli (talk) 14:43, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your WP literacy

Fixing that blurb at AIPAC...decent. Cheers. 142.126.192.215 (talk) 02:13, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Righto. When I found what you were asking for it was pretty clear what the problem was. Good call on your part.

I think who-was-rude-first spat on the article talk page is best left out. Nobody encountering the spat on the talk page will learn anything about the article's editing decisions or history. -- M.boli (talk) 13:26, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your courteous response on my talk page. It looked weird to me that way at first as well, but I've since come to understand and embrace it. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 19:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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For what it's worth, succession boxes for governor and senator nominees exist in the articles for other such individuals. 98.228.137.44 (talk) 22:09, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I spot-checked a few people and you are right. The succession history table sometimes includes nominee-for. I find this practice weird, but you are correct this is a known practice. So I self-reverted and put your edits back. Sorry, I should have checked! -- M.boli (talk) 00:19, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not change the RFK Jr article section on Mary Richardson Kennedy. I put more recent sources to update the first-hand information I had. I have visited Mary Richardson’s and Saoirse Kennedy Hill’s graves and can personally confirm they are marked and buried side to side. CaptainAhab1841 (talk) 14:14, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Righto. Glad to know!

Your previous edit left the article in an inconsistent state. The one reference described an unmarked grave, and contained a speculative note about possibly buying 50 graves in the vicinity. As my edit summary noted, the text of the article didn't match the references.

Nice that you are updating the article to describe the current situation. As long as it is referenced, it will be fine. I'll be glad to help, Wikipedia is a work in progress.

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