User talk:Mattythewhite/Archive 29
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Appearance count
If a footballer plays a match, should his appearance count (and goal count if necessary) be updated? What if the previous appearance count was incorrect, and you simply add 1 to the appearance count? Would you then be blocked for accidentally just adding 1 (as you'd get test warnings or something, even though it's not the user's fault who added an extra 1)? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 17:11, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Users should always consult with sources (in this case, Soccerbase, Soccerway etc) before updating any content, including appearance data. If an editor was continually doing it being receiving numerous warnings, then a block would probably be justified. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:51, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Wait, so you shouldn't add an appearance every time a player has played a match without looking at these sources? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:19, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'd highly recommend checking at least one of them, just to make sure you haven't missed any appearances/goals. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:21, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Do subs count? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:28, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yup. Soccerbase list substitute appearances in brackets, so they need adding up. See this Soccerbase profile as an example. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:30, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- The problem is, that it is not up to date. Look at Tony Watt for example. His appearance and goal today have not counted, as it says he has not played any matches this season. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:34, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Soccerbase can be a little slow in updating their totals, I'm just going by BBC reports in the meantime. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:40, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Do domestic cup matches count? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:44, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- The infobox includes league appearances only, but cup stats can go in the career stats table. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:50, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- The two sites you mentioned have different results for Morgan Fox of Charlton Athletic? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:55, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Once Soccerbase update their totals, the two should be match up. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:58, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- No they have a massive difference, which should be used? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:59, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- They are 38 and 28, massive difference. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 20:00, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Soccerbase show substitute appearances in brackets, don't forget, so their figure is 37. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:03, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Richard Keogh of Derby County is very different on both. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 20:15, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- I used the linked website (not profile) with today's match. I've done it now. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 22:06, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Richard Keogh of Derby County is very different on both. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 20:15, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Soccerbase show substitute appearances in brackets, don't forget, so their figure is 37. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:03, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Once Soccerbase update their totals, the two should be match up. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:58, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- The two sites you mentioned have different results for Morgan Fox of Charlton Athletic? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:55, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- The infobox includes league appearances only, but cup stats can go in the career stats table. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:50, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Do domestic cup matches count? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:44, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Soccerbase can be a little slow in updating their totals, I'm just going by BBC reports in the meantime. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:40, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- The problem is, that it is not up to date. Look at Tony Watt for example. His appearance and goal today have not counted, as it says he has not played any matches this season. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:34, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yup. Soccerbase list substitute appearances in brackets, so they need adding up. See this Soccerbase profile as an example. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:30, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Do subs count? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:28, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'd highly recommend checking at least one of them, just to make sure you haven't missed any appearances/goals. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:21, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Wait, so you shouldn't add an appearance every time a player has played a match without looking at these sources? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:19, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
Carrow Road FAC
Hi Matty, I think we've kind-of addressed your concerns at the FAC, would you be prepared to return to see if there's anything else we can do? Thanks for your comments so far, of course. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:51, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Yohan Cabaye (& ors)
Hi Mattythewhite, this editor who 'vandalised' several pages yesterday has been at it again, with several edits at Yohan Cabaye and also one unsourced ungrammatical edit at Duke McKenzie. I've RV'd the McKenzied edit but the number at Cabaye and an intervening sensible one...not sure how to deal with that. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 18:51, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Reverted and warned. Looks like what the user told me on my TP yesterday is bogus. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:56, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. Yes I have no doubt it is. I stuck another message on his talk page too. (Also pointed out WP:BRO). Regards, Eagleash (talk) 19:00, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hi again. After my message above the user left a fairly abusive message on my talk page, so I responded (politely) on his, leaving some regular help page info etc. However he has put the info back into the Cabaye article and left another (less-impolite) message. Looks like a bit of a prob. developing. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 08:43, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for helping out! It's a shame when people can't behave sensibly. Eagleash (talk) 12:50, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- No worries. The language they were using was completely unacceptable, and it's probably only a matter of time until they receive an indef block. Mattythewhite (talk) 12:53, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for helping out! It's a shame when people can't behave sensibly. Eagleash (talk) 12:50, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hi again. After my message above the user left a fairly abusive message on my talk page, so I responded (politely) on his, leaving some regular help page info etc. However he has put the info back into the Cabaye article and left another (less-impolite) message. Looks like a bit of a prob. developing. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 08:43, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. Yes I have no doubt it is. I stuck another message on his talk page too. (Also pointed out WP:BRO). Regards, Eagleash (talk) 19:00, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
AEK fan "user" / Other nuisances
Getting all fired up with the new season this chap I wager, a further nine months ahead of us with NO PC UPDATE (as seen here https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Alberto_Sansimena_Chamorro&diff=669018873&oldid=665255027).
Happy week, and all that --84.90.219.128 (talk) 22:10, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- You also may want to have a(nother) look at this punk you have already warned (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/94.71.25.214), inflates stats like no tomorrow in box, I have already reverted P. Dubovsky and E. Granero. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 22:38, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Barnes homer
Hi mate can you not do anything to what I do I am Matthew Barnes homer it's my page and the info was not right before so I put that right Ballerbarnes9 (talk) 22:59, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
It's my page so don't do anything to it anymore I'm Matthew Barnes home Ballerbarnes9 (talk) 23:17, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- Please refer to WP:OWN and WP:COI, you are presently acting in violation to policy. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:19, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Mateo Kovačić article
First, thanks for semi-protecting the article...I just handed in a request few mins before that [1]. However couple of those anonymous users that have been editing and basically disrupting the article seem to have registered so the semi-protect might not have the desirable effect...as can be seen from the last two edits by the User:Prekpalaj. Shokatz (talk) 12:24, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- Accounts need to have been registered for four days before they can edit semi-protected articles, so these accounts must have already been set up. I'll keep monitoring the article anyway. Mattythewhite (talk) 12:26, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Jazz
I know a member of his family and he said he's 5 ft 9 in height Tomcar900991 (talk) 15:39, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- Please refer to WP:OR. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:44, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Page move
Only available to admins now, think you can move Panionios F.C to Panionios F.C.? Not coherent, I wager (we have no dots or two dots in club naming conventions, this is kind of "halfway there")...
Attentively, thanks in advance --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:19, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- Was moved a few hours ago. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:31, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
I see, it's just I asked a fellow user today, and he told me it was only an admin that could perform the move. Sorry for the inconvenience. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:49, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Matthew Barnes-Homer
Matthew Barnes-Homer being edited again by Ballerbarnes9 (talk · contribs).. time for this to stop! JMHamo (talk) 00:17, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Much more serious now, this user who I reported several times to you now has a new IP (this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/77.103.19.181) and reverted me in this player's page (and I followed suit). I suppose his other "contributions" revolve around the same (meaning of African players' names) and, in the page of User:Qed237, he has resorted to name calling because QED also reverted him (see message called "Wiki God").
Geez, some people don't understand what an ENCYCLOPEDIA is (and maybe now I should brace for some name calling too!). I leave it to your judgement. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 00:32, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Double AfD
Per the pertinent WP:FOOTY discussion, seems the pair of Anthony Velder and Nygel Velder should be deleted no? Only played in the Topklasse thus far.
Keep it up --84.90.219.128 (talk) 13:25, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Anfield, smaller text
Hey Mattythewhite,
I was thinking we make a few of the details like opponent smaller, as the record attendence is more prevalent. I feel like making all text large takes away from the important data. Let me know what you think.--Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 22:58, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- I can't agree with that, for the sake of accessibility. We would be doing a disservice to our readers by making certain pieces of text harder to read, when it's not really necessary. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:02, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. While I agree that we should avoid continuous change of small-text, accessibility does allow small-text "through carefully designed templates." I believe the nav-box for stadiums being amended to highlight pertinent information would actually be better for our readers. Not sure on if there has been a convo on this in the past.--Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 23:56, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- You could bring it up at WT:FOOTY, but I would still prefer to use normal size text whenever possible. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:58, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'll put it on the backburner for now. Like you said not the most important. Thanks.--Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 00:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- You could bring it up at WT:FOOTY, but I would still prefer to use normal size text whenever possible. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:58, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. While I agree that we should avoid continuous change of small-text, accessibility does allow small-text "through carefully designed templates." I believe the nav-box for stadiums being amended to highlight pertinent information would actually be better for our readers. Not sure on if there has been a convo on this in the past.--Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 23:56, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Gerard Pique
Hi Mattythewhite, I am very sorry, I am not real sure who is right here. I've been looking at transfer news and I saw that Gerard Pique has signed with Augsburg. Augsburg's twitter has a picture of his new Augsburg's jersey. I want to make this article correct just like you, so maybe we can help each other out. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Austy0228 (talk • contribs) 01:32, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Adam Stansfield GAN
Hi there is a minor improvement needed, for the article to be listed as a GA. Have a look. Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 17:03, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Adam Stansfield has been nominated for Did You Know
Hello, Mattythewhite. Adam Stansfield, an article you either created or significantly contributed to, has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 19:06, 18 August 2015 (UTC) |
Are you able to check the book reference for his birthplace? It says York, but his profile at his former club says Wolverhampton, which makes geographical sense with where he began his career '''tAD''' (talk) 22:00, 19 August 2015 (UTC) '''tAD''' (talk) 22:00, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
- The Sky Sports Football Yearbook 2012–2013 does list York as his birthplace. Findmypast show the birth was registered in York (registration required), although I suspect this might be a different individual. This individual was born q1 1993, while Goldson was born q2 1992. So perhaps the full name and POB attached to Goldson are for an entirely different individual... Mattythewhite (talk) 22:11, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Jordan Henderson
Hey Mattytheahite,
There has been talkpage discussion on this before and most consensus has been, while the template is slightly outdated look at statistics examples like Messi, Ronaldo. If a player has played several seasons in the same division then why create multiple rows for the same thing. It makes no sense. Look at the Club. It has also been expanded several rows because it is cleaner. Only if they begin playing in another division, then it can be amended. --Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 16:44, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- What is ths significance of the Messi and Ronaldo examples? They might be top-level players, but that doesn't mean their Wikipedia biographies set the benchmark. The reason we are enouraged to lay tables out like this is for accessibility reasons; see this by Struway2 for an explanation. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:50, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- See also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 85#Career stats tables. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:08, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- No significance. I just pulled up the best examples, but I've seen this style on a lot of other players so they are not isolated incidents. See Giggs as another example. Also see this example where a template for Dwain Chambers has multirow cells in the 2nd column. I see your point, and thanks for the thread link Struway2. This was last addressed 1.5 years ago. Do any of you know of any updated information? How many people truly use screen readers to view Footy statistics tables. I've never heard a complaint that a table was unreadable.--Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 17:27, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- Please feel free to ask for clarification at a suitable venue: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Accessibility or Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Accessibility seem likely. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:45, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- No significance. I just pulled up the best examples, but I've seen this style on a lot of other players so they are not isolated incidents. See Giggs as another example. Also see this example where a template for Dwain Chambers has multirow cells in the 2nd column. I see your point, and thanks for the thread link Struway2. This was last addressed 1.5 years ago. Do any of you know of any updated information? How many people truly use screen readers to view Footy statistics tables. I've never heard a complaint that a table was unreadable.--Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 17:27, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- See also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 85#Career stats tables. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:08, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Matches played by Messi
These sources confirm that Messi played 60 matches scoring 73 goals on season 2011-12 and 46 matches/41 goals on 2013-14: http://www.transfermarkt.com/lionel-messi/leistungsdatenverein/spieler/28003 http://www.bdfutbol.com/en/j/j1753.html
I didn't want to make an editing war or something like that ;) Thanks, SaintJimmy94 (talk) 15:51, 23 November 2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SaintJimmy94 (talk • contribs) 15:51, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for that, I was also fixing the stats but you've done it faster hahaha, there's still one match remaining, on season 2009-10 it says "One appearance in UEFA Super Cup, 11 appearances and eight goals in UEFA Champions League", but the total count is 11 matches (not counting that UEFA Super Cup match). Thank you again, SaintJimmy94 (talk) 16:30, 23 November 2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SaintJimmy94 (talk • contribs) 16:30, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Matt Grimes
Hello, sorry for using a photo on Matt Grimes' article that violated copyright. Thank you for informing me on the ruling over copyright! Edders527, User talk:Edders527. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edders527 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Bobby Hosker
Hello, i put the total carreer of Bobby Hosker on the site with my site as bron. Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoricusBelgium (talk • contribs) 12:28, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Football club logos
Hi, why have the logos i uploaded been reverted back to the preious image? They were not copyrighted images. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Footballtasks (talk • contribs) 20:34, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- They're not copyrighted - really? Mattythewhite (talk) 20:35, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Sandro Ramírez
I've added a source to the change I made on his page now. Thanks. Thriller08 (talk) 02:43, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Karl Henry
Hello there, thanks for your message. Regarding the deletion of the individual season stats references, I had replaced them with the general link to all the seasons stats on soccerbase. On my view it created a cleaner page without the loss of information. Anyway, as you clearly have much more experience here than I do, I will take your word for it. Also, thanks for advising me on the edit summary. I will make sure to always complete it in the future. One last thing — when you reentered the 15-16 stats that you deleted from my version, you got one of the numbers wrong from the source. I am correcting it now. Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.11.77.229 (talk) 19:12, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, it's best to cite each season individually, as the generic Soccerbase link doesn't explicitly reference the appearances and goals for each season. Thanks for fixing the 2015/16 stats. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:31, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Rushian Hepburn-Murphy
Hi, the page wasnt loading correctly when i found it and was just covered with "error" and so on. I tried refreshing it multiple times but the problem didnt go away, and then when i checked the previous version everything was fine so i presumed it had been an editing mistake on your part. Now however, when i click back into your version that i reverted from, everything is appearing perfectly well. So i dont know what was causing the issue to be honest. Maybe a problem on my end. Apologies! IIISmokeyIII (talk) 17:35, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Was it in big red writing? If so I've been experiencing the same thing. Don't know what the cause of it is though, or how to fix it. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:39, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah it was. I definitely hadnt seen it before and i cant even remember what it said exactly. If it happens again i'll screenshot and see if someone else can shed any light on it. IIISmokeyIII (talk) 18:22, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Matty, any idea on how to tackle this issue? In spite of my explanatory summaries (sometimes a bit too explanatory I admit), people keep inserting a goal for Sheff Wed in his box even though he scored for them in the Football League Cup.
If page protection is not warranted in this case (not vandalism per se), then I guess we'll just have to revert/ignore. Attentively, thanks in advance --84.90.219.128 (talk) 16:20, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I've had the same prob today with Lee Chung-yong who scored for CPFC in the L.Cup too. I put 'League goals only' within <-> as here. Eagleash (talk) 22:11, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've got both watchlisted, so I'll keep an eye out for stats changes. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:38, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
As expected...
...Cypriot season started, the AEK "user" (this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:213.207.164.174) continues at it. Methinks (given you have already laid down the law twice) a larger block is in order (and not that it will stop him), but I'm not the admin here :) --84.90.219.128 (talk) 04:03, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Bosnian players
Why don't you allow edit of career statistics tables of Bosnian players? They look so much better with a template of Pjanić's table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HankMoodyTZ (talk • contribs) 15:22, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- As I explained on the talk page of the IP you've been using, career stats tables (nationality notwithstanding) should follow the established layout displayed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Players#Career statistics. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:26, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- And if I make them all like this, you want undo it? I just used the layout I liked the best, this at Pjanić. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miralem_Pjani%C4%87 Lionel Messi's table is also different. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Messi#Club — Preceding unsigned comment added by HankMoodyTZ (talk • contribs) 15:38, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Pjanić uses an outdated layout that has long since been phased out. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:45, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- So, can I update all the Bosnian players to layout you showed me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HankMoodyTZ (talk • contribs) 15:48, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, as long as the tables meet the aforementioned layout and are properly sourced. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:01, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- So, can I update all the Bosnian players to layout you showed me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HankMoodyTZ (talk • contribs) 15:48, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Pjanić uses an outdated layout that has long since been phased out. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:45, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- And if I make them all like this, you want undo it? I just used the layout I liked the best, this at Pjanić. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miralem_Pjani%C4%87 Lionel Messi's table is also different. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Messi#Club — Preceding unsigned comment added by HankMoodyTZ (talk • contribs) 15:38, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Okay just give me some time. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HankMoodyTZ (talk • contribs) 16:22, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Ramsey
List of Birmingham City F.C. managers is correct. Soccerbase 1997/78, in its infinite wisdom, lists the League Cup defeat on 30 January 1978 during Ramsey's tenure, as opposed to when it actually was played, on 30 August 1977 when Bell was still in charge. Matthews (1995) (details in refs section at the managers list) pages 213, 243 will source it. p.213 is the league/FA Cup/League Cup results/lineups for 1977/78, and p.243 is the mixed competitions page that confirms the 1977/78 Anglo-Scottish Cup ties were all played in August before Ramsey took over. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 20:53, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've updated the article using that ref. #OperationAlf ploughs on :) Mattythewhite (talk) 21:22, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
ANI notification
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. JMHamo (talk) 22:16, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello,
You reverted my edit. You wrote on my talk page that I didn't provide any reliable source. La Libre Belgique is a reliable source... I gave the link in the comment of my edit. Now, if you can't read French, that something else entirely, but that doesn't make the whole source invalid. So please just read the paper, put it through some automatic translation tool and understand that La Libre Belgique is the second biggest French-speaking newspaper from Belgium. It's as reliable as any source.
2A02:A03F:2A1:A400:2985:28C6:7F30:B19A (talk) 23:49, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
- The transfer has not been confirmed by either of the clubs involved, and in any case the source needs to be cited in the article itself, not just in the edit summary. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:52, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
- That's being bad faith. Regarding the edit, since I gave the link you could just edit to add the source, but no, you had to revert entirely. The clubs don't need to say it officially to make it official. The press saying it's signed, and especially from a well-established newspaper as La Libre Belgique, is good enough. News events occur daily and the press say stuff before the officials say anything. Take for instance the recent shooting in Virginia. The article was present and documented well before the first official press conference from the cops. Accepting one and not the other is making a double-standard. 2A02:A03F:2A1:A400:2985:28C6:7F30:B19A (talk) 23:57, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Bootham Crescent
Will do. Give me a day or three, though. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:21, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- Tomorrow, or more likely Tuesday while watching the transfer deadline go by with my lot probably failing to sign a backup central defender and preferably without selling Dimmy Gray. If I don't, then feel free to nag. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:22, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
With your admin powers, it may be advised to protect this article as a lot of obscenity has been posted on it in recent days. It's most likely from disgruntled Brighton fans holding an eternal grudge. I think the rubbish posted in the last edit – I'm not repeating it here as it's libellous – merits deletion '''tAD''' (talk) 19:45, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
- Revision deleted, upon reading it through. I'm reluctant to semi-protect the article as I don't think there's been enough disruptive edits to justify it. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:54, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
- That's OK, it may be just one lunatic causing the problems. Good luck for tonight, I imagine this is one of the busiest nights for football-related admins! '''tAD''' (talk) 19:59, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
- Lol, but the deadline is 6pm tomorrow, which is a relief :) Mattythewhite (talk) 20:11, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
- That's OK, it may be just one lunatic causing the problems. Good luck for tonight, I imagine this is one of the busiest nights for football-related admins! '''tAD''' (talk) 19:59, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
Carl Pentney
Hi! Thank you for keeping an eye on the statistics and my edits. The Carl Pentney stats are retrieved from the match reports at Maidenhead United's Pitch Hero website, apart from the Bath City match on 18 August 2015, which was covered by Bath Chronicle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morhveem (talk • contribs) 01:11, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Stadium notability
Are there any notability guidelines for English football stadiums? Should stadiums in the National League have a page? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 18:57, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not aware of a formal guideline for stadiums, so WP:GNG is likely the only yardstick to go by. I would think there's a good chance for a ground at National League level to be considered notable, but it will vary case-by-case. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:02, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- What do you think about Guiseley A.F.C.'s stadium? It doesn't seem to have significant media coverage though. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:05, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- I think it might be worth doing some research on the ground, to suss out if there's a wide enough range of sources available to justify an article. If you think there is, I'd go ahead and type an article up! Mattythewhite (talk) 19:15, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- There is a Yorkshire Evening Post article that talks about the stadium's new expansion. Some old BBC articles mention the stadium on occasion. There is many images of the stadium generally. The Gazette & Observer also has an article about a stadium upgrade last year. Other than that, there doesn't seem to be any significant media coverage. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:21, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- Football Ground Guide, which is generally a useful site for English stadiums, has some good info. Not in itself enough to satisfy notability criteria, but great for beefing the article up. And there's these images on Flickr with Wikipedia-friendly licences that could be used on an article. I might be being optimistic, but I think the potential is there! Mattythewhite (talk) 19:31, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- Do you think it should be created? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hard to give a straight yes or no. For me it would depend on whether an article demonstrates that it passes the GNG, which remains unknown. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:37, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- (Coming here from User talk:Redrose64#Guiseley A.F.C.'s stadium) Have you asked WT:FOOTY? They must come across the grounds of non-league clubs pretty often. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:48, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hard to give a straight yes or no. For me it would depend on whether an article demonstrates that it passes the GNG, which remains unknown. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:37, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- Do you think it should be created? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- Football Ground Guide, which is generally a useful site for English stadiums, has some good info. Not in itself enough to satisfy notability criteria, but great for beefing the article up. And there's these images on Flickr with Wikipedia-friendly licences that could be used on an article. I might be being optimistic, but I think the potential is there! Mattythewhite (talk) 19:31, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- There is a Yorkshire Evening Post article that talks about the stadium's new expansion. Some old BBC articles mention the stadium on occasion. There is many images of the stadium generally. The Gazette & Observer also has an article about a stadium upgrade last year. Other than that, there doesn't seem to be any significant media coverage. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:21, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- I think it might be worth doing some research on the ground, to suss out if there's a wide enough range of sources available to justify an article. If you think there is, I'd go ahead and type an article up! Mattythewhite (talk) 19:15, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- What do you think about Guiseley A.F.C.'s stadium? It doesn't seem to have significant media coverage though. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:05, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Football player's transfer
If a football player recently transferred, and a picture of his shirt with squad number is on the new club's website, however this number is not confirmed anywhere, should the shirt number be added to his Wikipedia page? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 20:02, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- I should thank that is sufficient. Could you link to the image? Mattythewhite (talk) 20:04, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- It can be found on the Partick Thistle F.C. website. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 20:06, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
A quick thanks
Your responses have been quick and helpful. Another user decided to create the Nethermoor Park page though I may still be able to improve the page. Thanks for your support. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 10:38, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
I've decided to work on The New Lawn as they may achieve promotion to the Football League Two this season. Should I add a coordinates map similar to the map on Carrow Road or the York Community Stadium. Can I freely add a map similar to this? Where do I find the coordinates of the stadium? Thanks. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 18:18, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- The coordinates are already on the article, and can be seen to the top right of the page. To add a map, just use the infobox parameters used at Carrow Road or York Community Stadium, and update them using the New Lawn coordinates. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:28, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Danish guy that removes B-teams in the infoboxes...
...is at it again (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/176.23.119.207). Sorry, can't remember any of the previous IPs. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 03:15, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Adam Stansfield
On 4 September 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Adam Stansfield, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that footballer Adam Stansfield, who died in 2010, is featured on legal tender banknotes in the English city of Exeter? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Adam Stansfield. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
I have a problem with the name of that article. I created it with the name Paulo António do Prado Pereira, until it was moved to Paulo Pereira. The problem is that Paulo Pereira is a extremely frequent name in Portuguese-speaking world, as you can see in its "what links here". I think that taking over the name "Paulo Pereira" over other wikiproject's is not right, since it can apply to musicians, an handballer and a sprinter, and can mislead other users in thinking the article already exists. Moving it back to Paulo António do Prado Pereira would be the logical move, but it would leave a link behind in Paulo Pereira. Should he turn the page a disambiguation one or delete it outright?--Threeohsix (talk) 21:52, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- Paulo Pereira appears to the subject's most commonly used name in English language sources, so per WP:COMMONAME the article title is correct. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:02, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- So it's fine to use Paulo Pereira, even though it links to other articles not related to him? You noticed it can link to a Paulo Cesar Alves Pereira - musician, Paulo Mouta Pereira another musician, Paulo Pereira a Portuguese actor, a Brazilian paraolympic athlete (also a Portuguese sprinter from the 1970s) and Paulo Jorge Pereira a Portuguese handball manager that managed in Angola? I think Paulo Pereira should be a disambiguation page and this Paulo Pereira be moved to other name, maybe Paulo Pereira, (footballer)? --Threeohsix (talk) 11:06, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- Disambiguation would be the correct approach, but I can't see that there are articles for other individuals named Paulo Pereira? Mattythewhite (talk) 13:13, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- So don't do nothing until someone creates another Paulo Pereira? --Threeohsix (talk) 14:51, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I would say so. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:57, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- So don't do nothing until someone creates another Paulo Pereira? --Threeohsix (talk) 14:51, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- Disambiguation would be the correct approach, but I can't see that there are articles for other individuals named Paulo Pereira? Mattythewhite (talk) 13:13, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- So it's fine to use Paulo Pereira, even though it links to other articles not related to him? You noticed it can link to a Paulo Cesar Alves Pereira - musician, Paulo Mouta Pereira another musician, Paulo Pereira a Portuguese actor, a Brazilian paraolympic athlete (also a Portuguese sprinter from the 1970s) and Paulo Jorge Pereira a Portuguese handball manager that managed in Angola? I think Paulo Pereira should be a disambiguation page and this Paulo Pereira be moved to other name, maybe Paulo Pereira, (footballer)? --Threeohsix (talk) 11:06, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
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Spammer
https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Landing+page&diff=679951204&oldid=679941520
Spammer having a go at me on mainspace page, please can you delete this edit. Thank you '''tAD''' (talk) 20:32, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Just go for FAC. --Dweller (talk) 08:07, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
- I have; get with the programme! ;) Mattythewhite (talk) 09:38, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, didn't get the memo ;-) --Dweller (talk) 09:57, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Brad Halliday squad number
Hello Matty, just an enquiry... how do you know Brad Halliday will be No. 26 at Hartlepool? I've looked in my usual places and I can't see this? JMHamo (talk) 13:48, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- Tis in the source cited in the article :) Mattythewhite (talk) 13:50, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- Ah yes, there it is. Question is how do the Hartlepool Mail know this before anything is said by the club :).. Inside information! Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 13:58, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Jádson article
Hi. You revert Jádson article yesterday. Well... follow the references for my editions: [2] (League and cup statistics) and friendly matches in 2015 [3], [4].
Pay attention in all match dates I don't need make vandalize in this pages. I update |pcupdate=
or |club-update=
all the time.
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielsamideriba (talk • contribs) 22:57, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- You're obviously not updating the parameters "all the time", because if you were you wouldn't be receiving any warnings. In fact, looking at your recent edits, I don't think I can see any in which you've updated the parameters. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:03, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
DYK for York Community Stadium
On 11 September 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article York Community Stadium, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that York City F.C. and York City Knights RLFC are expected to move into the York Community Stadium in 2017? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/York Community Stadium. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
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Pepe
Sorry for not explaining, I didn't mean to delete the info on Pepe's page. I was trying to add that Pepe with Real Madrid hasn't received a red card since April 2011/2012.
In fact, Pepe was the only center back in La Liga in 2014/15 season to not receive a single yellow card. He only had 5 fouls, lowest in the league.
He has improved his behavior IMMENSELY, i just don't want people to make out what he used to do what they'll know about him forever on his wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.228.49.36 (talk) 00:51, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Gareth Bale
In the official page of Real Madrid, the League Cup are in the profile of Gareth Bale. --Cristianho19 (talk) 13:41, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
stuart fleetwood
Please stop changing the league apperances and goals. He has made 15 apperances and scored 1. I will report u to the adminsitrator if u dont stop XFXRyan99 (talk) 21:00, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- If you can provide a reference that confirms Stuart Fleetwood made 15 league appearances for Sutton, that would be grand. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:04, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
stuart
Please go on sutton uniteds first team squad. Look at stuart fleetwood. The club wished me to update the players on wiki evey game. They said it dont matter whether they are league apps or not. If he has made 15 apps then change it to 15 so stop editing or i will get u blocked. I DONT KNOW HOW TO ADD A REFRRENCE BUT I CANT DISOBEY WHAT THE CLUB I SUPPORT TELL ME WHAT TO DO. XFXRyan99 (talk) 18:41, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'm afraid Sutton United F.C. does not determine what content is included on Wikipedia. It is long established consensus that only league statistics are included in the infobox, and this is stated on the template documentation: "A list of appearances that the player has been awarded in league competition only for each professional club". And please do not threaten to get people blocked, especially considering you're the one in the wrong here. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:45, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
WP:BNA
Your account has been renewed. Cheers, TLSuda (talk) 13:43, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi tried to update martin patersons wiki as it hadn't been done yet, got a message of you and tried to reference my findings from a reliable source, heres my reference (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34197143?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_match_of_the_day&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport) and you can alter it cause can't be bothered with being corrected for trying to help out, cheers and try and make blackpool into a link, don't know how to do that either — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.151.133 (talk) 21:49, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Histon F.C. squad
Template:Histon F.C. squad has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. JMHamo (talk) 18:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
History of York City F.C.
Hello, Mattythewhite. This is a courtesy notice that the copy edit you requested for History of York City F.C. at the Guild of Copy Editors requests page is now complete. All feedback welcome! Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:26, 18 September 2015 (UTC) |
List of Central Coast Mariners FC players FLC comments
As you've suggested in the edit log entry, I've raised my concern at the FLC Thisisnotatest (talk) 11:31, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Norwegian punk removing stuff from infoboxes...
...still at it. With this edit he made in José Ángel Iribar (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jos%C3%A9_%C3%81ngel_Iribar&diff=676568872&oldid=673580974), I think a (new, you have already done so last year) block is in order.
Oh, and that Sutton United fan threatening to block you if you don't stop reverting his (wrong) insertion of stats is a blast, indeed... Happy week, all good --84.90.219.128 (talk) 01:51, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
RE: Will Buckley
I reverted your reversion and then just finished adding the part of the article with the proof/reference. Could you add the other parts back please? Thanks. LS11sVaultBoy (talk) 19:10, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Rowspanned Cells
Mattythwhite,
If you recall we had a conversation (I can't locate it) about formatting for rowspanned cells. The links Struway2 provided for Manual of Style to avoid failing WP:ACCESS look dated. I haven't seen this anywhere beside WT:FOOTY. How can we confirm that we can still not use nested tables, due to screen readers? Or who would be able to assist us with this?--Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 16:27, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Also I'll restore the Romelu Lukaku edit (the other edits I did) but leave the career statistics table to your version until consensus can be reached.--Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 16:37, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- I don't know the best way to resolve it, but in the meantime we should ensure tables meet the present accessibility requirements. and what the community-decided template displays. I also must take exception to some of your other changes at Lukaku; there's no consensus to remove divisions from the lead; Template:Nft should be substituted when added, e.g. {{subst:nft|France}}; and table captions should be included above tables, again for accessibility. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:45, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Okay I'll leave tables, captions unchanged. Another thought I had was what if we included the division BEFORE the season? That way Club and Division would be read first, even on a screenreader and then season, apps, goals, etc. would come next. I was not aware of WP:SUBST but thanks I will use that going forward. In regards to the last, according to this discussion it seemed like there was no consensus on whether we should use league division aka Premier League club Sample United or nationality of club aka. English club Sample United, so to my understanding it's a case by case basis. None are wrong, and either can be correct.--Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 18:53, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- What the no consensus confirmed, is that we can't go round pushing our favoured format onto articles that have been stable either with or without the league division. It doesn't justify us pushing our own preferred format just because either can be correct. It's a pity that the windup merchant who started that RfC wasn't sockblocked a bit sooner: that incarnation chose to be keen on removing the league division, but one of its earlier incarnations was quite keen on including it, see e.g. 1, 2. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 21:23, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Okay I'll leave tables, captions unchanged. Another thought I had was what if we included the division BEFORE the season? That way Club and Division would be read first, even on a screenreader and then season, apps, goals, etc. would come next. I was not aware of WP:SUBST but thanks I will use that going forward. In regards to the last, according to this discussion it seemed like there was no consensus on whether we should use league division aka Premier League club Sample United or nationality of club aka. English club Sample United, so to my understanding it's a case by case basis. None are wrong, and either can be correct.--Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 18:53, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- I don't know the best way to resolve it, but in the meantime we should ensure tables meet the present accessibility requirements. and what the community-decided template displays. I also must take exception to some of your other changes at Lukaku; there's no consensus to remove divisions from the lead; Template:Nft should be substituted when added, e.g. {{subst:nft|France}}; and table captions should be included above tables, again for accessibility. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:45, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi there Matty, all well?
I most certainly talked with you about this one or two years ago, and now reliable User:Mega60 (BDFUTBOL.com collaborator) told me you removed the player's stats with FC Barcelona C again. Not 100% sure if I approached it like this the previous time, but he told me that one can take this as an example (please see here http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/2006/02/13/pagina-37/1405447/pdf.html#&mode=fullScreen, the Barcelona C-Rapitenca match, they call him Jordi there) and consult all the games of the season, last time I checked El Mundo Deportivo (newspaper) is a reliable source, is it not?
All the best, from Portugal --84.90.219.128 (talk) 20:21, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- I can't find his name on the link above, and we need a source/collection of sources that confirm all his appearances before they can go back in. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:28, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- Come again? JORDI is JORDI GÓMEZ, like I explained in the original message. Please, what do you want me to convey to Mega? We should add a match report like the one shown above for all his Barça C appearances? --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:35, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- I can see his name listed now, having looked through it properly after realising Ctrl+F wasn't functioning. Yes, but ideally we should use a unified source that lists his Barcelona C apps. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:41, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- Come again? JORDI is JORDI GÓMEZ, like I explained in the original message. Please, what do you want me to convey to Mega? We should add a match report like the one shown above for all his Barça C appearances? --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:35, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Alrigthy then! Will convey that to Mega. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:57, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
WP:FOOTY
Hi there,
can you please offer some suggestion as to what should I do, after reading the thread "Doubt" at WP:FOOTY? Cheers and happy weekend --84.90.219.128 (talk) 09:19, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi! You recently reverted my edit in an article Helder Postiga. While I can add a reliable reference, I wanted to know whether goals scored in practice games count as career stats? Thank you!!--TheProudEditor (Chat) 13:48, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Nope; the infobox accounts for league stats only. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:49, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Claudio Ranieri
Hi, I'm a bit confused with removal of a link to a relevant statistics site that's an authority on manager statistics and has accurate Newcastle United manager statistics starting with Frank Watt in 1895. So how come this source isn't considered relevant by you, and how come a link to it is considered spam? Makes no sense. Please explain your reasoning and reevaluate your decision. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CafaMagician80 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, we only use sources that are deemed reliable; that is that they are "third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". I'm not saying this site isn't, but can it be demonstrated that it is? Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 15:56, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Persondata
I was just wondering when the persondata information is not required, is it only required for retired players, or players who've died? Beatpoet (talk) 17:40, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, persondata is being phased out for all articles, and its content should instead be added to Wikidata, per WP:PERSON. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:53, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Tiago Ilori
I am an Aston Villa fan who lives in Albufeira, I know several members of Tiago Ilori family and some of his old school friends here in the town, I also go to watch Imortal Desportivo Clube of Albufeira, were Tiago Ilori started his playing career. I'm not particularly bothered if you do not include him in this category and I'm not particularly bothered by the likes of editors like yourself who just dismiss and change edits without researching things themselves. Kolforn ♣ 14:58, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- Please refer to WP:OR and WP:BURDEN. It would be of great benefit to the encyclopaedia if you understood its policies when contributing. And sort the attitude out, it's not going to get you anywhere. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:03, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- fully aware thank you.Kolforn ♣ 15:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Kind TPS: please explain it to me, fellow users. I thought the category "PEOPLE FROM ..." illustrated where a person was born. If Mr. Ilori was born in (the) London (area), should the already existing PEOPLE FROM HAMPSTEAD not be enough? Thanks in advance --84.90.219.128 (talk) 16:42, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- I believe we can add the category if a person was raised in a place other than their birth. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:30, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Matty, any suggestions on how to tackle user Sky1two and (supposedly) his many anon forms? I'm turning blue in the face reverting and re-reverting. Looks like an over-the-top Al-Hilal FC fan that does not grasp the concept of an encyclopedia.
Thanks in advance (and please don't hesitate to say if it was I that did any wrongdoing whilst reverting) --84.90.219.128 (talk) 16:20, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- I've given this user a level 1 warning; I am concerned their unsourced additions, failure to update timestamps and poor English. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:43, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry to butt in, but as far as I could tell, all the prose additions made by the named user were referenced to reliable sources. They may have been ill-formatted, not in the greatest English and a bit over-enthusiastic, but I'm not comfortable with removing reliably sourced and encyclopedic content such as the subject scoring the only goal in the Saudi Super Cup as if it were vandalism. Just a personal opinion. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:52, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- I may have been a bit sweeping re: sourcing, but there are instances of unsourced additions including this and this. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:00, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry to butt in, but as far as I could tell, all the prose additions made by the named user were referenced to reliable sources. They may have been ill-formatted, not in the greatest English and a bit over-enthusiastic, but I'm not comfortable with removing reliably sourced and encyclopedic content such as the subject scoring the only goal in the Saudi Super Cup as if it were vandalism. Just a personal opinion. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:52, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
I understand Struway's input, and have already got to work in Mr. Eduardo's article. Cheers both --84.90.219.128 (talk) 18:48, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
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Bad language.
Hi, could you please have a word with an editor regarding this edit? Qed237 (talk) 16:17, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Please Help
Hey Mattythewhite, please help me with the article Jon-Paul Pittman, especially the career statistics, I muddled up and am dyslexic. Thanks Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 12:48, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, I've added the missing stats and have formatted the table so it meets the layout displayed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Players#Career statistics. My advice to you is to use the preview function: you made over fifty edits to the table when there was really no need for more than one. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:48, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Edits Attributed to My IP
Hello, While looking through an article on the mythical creatures known as "Abath" on this page "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abath", a notification box appeared, informing me that I had new messages from another user. On clicking on this I discovered there were warnings against, presumably, me for editing the pages for several Liverpool players, namely Christian Benteke, Kolo Toure and Adam Lallana. This was not me, but may have been someone in my household. I have a younger brother who is also a Liverpool fan and who may have thought it was a bit of a joke to make edits to players' pages. What were the edits regarding? I shall question him to see if he is behind it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.100.74.234 (talk) 12:25, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
I noticed you removed my edit on Laurent Koscielny's page. I believe this was unjust. Bosscielny should be included as a nickname to reflect how much of a Boss he really is.
Bosscielny is love, Bosscielny is life. <3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.160.194.50 (talk) 16:42, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Source and image review requests at FAC
Hi -- I removed your source/image review requests from the FAC talk page -- we should probably update the instructions there, as this is a common misunderstanding. Of course everything needs a source and image review, but that box is used to request reviews for FACs that are getting close to promotion, for which the source and/or image review are the only things left to be settled. Putting every FAC in that list would make it much harder to maintain. Typically the coords add the request when needed, though you'll sometimes see other people do it. Let me know if you have any questions. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:03, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Aris Thessaloniki F.C / Others
This page seems to be in need of a move, no (one dot missing)? If so, fire away kind fellow user after my notification.
Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 00:24, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. And maybe you should try this user again (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ptzen), he just is not listening to you or anybody, he re-inserted ALL competitions again in Rui Patrício's box, when he "scored" a goal (it was an own goal with his help!) in the Champions League.
Thanks --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:28, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Nicholas Harrhy
I've restored this article which you PRODded back in 2012, following a request at my talk page. You might wish to consider AFD. GiantSnowman 11:29, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
History of York City FAC
I have a few other editing tasks planned for the next few days, but I'll be sure to give this a review sometime next wee. While I'm here, may I ask what drove you to split the article in two? I've been working on a sports team history article, which is longer than the York City page was before the split. It makes me wonder whether I'm approaching things the wrong way. Giants2008 (Talk) 15:07, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for being happy to take a look. I divided the article in two based on the recommendations at WP:SIZERULE, and by seeing other "History of" articles that have done similar, e.g. History of Arsenal F.C. (1886–1966) and History of Liverpool F.C. (1892–1959). Mattythewhite (talk) 16:22, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, and thanks for thinking my review might help. I've had a very cursory look, but at the moment I haven't got the time to give it a proper review. First impressions, and these really are mostly peer-review stylee impressions rather than actionable comments, which is why I've commented here rather than the FAC (but if you want to move them to the article talk page, feel free):
- do you really need to wikilink every FL season, rather than e.g. linking the ones in the lead and the first one in the body, so the reader knows where to find one if they really want to, and then only linking any with a particular relevance;
- don't be too quick to accept reviewers' (or copyeditors') suggestions, even mine: "with W.H. Shaw being elected chairman" really isn't better English than your original short sentences; "with W.H. Shaw as chairman" might be;
- why write every number out in words? looks a bit odd in places, things like "scored ninety-six goals in thirty-eight league matches";
- particularly towards the end, it came across a bit list-y, as if you felt obliged to have a certain amount of detail for each season even if it wasn't that important or interesting, which (for me, anyway) tended to obscure my overview of the club's progress: not seeing the wood for the trees sort of thing;
- haven't counted, but I'm guessing you mention as many or more chairmen than players: is that a reasonable balance?
- you might want to add
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to the archived statto.com links, now the thing's revived; - why split at 1980 rather than 1978?
- Bear in mind that I've never yet managed to write a half-decent history article for my club (perhaps it's time I made a serious attempt), let alone taken anything to FAC on my own, so I understand entirely how difficult it is. And sorry I can't find the time to do it justice. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:50, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, and thanks for thinking my review might help. I've had a very cursory look, but at the moment I haven't got the time to give it a proper review. First impressions, and these really are mostly peer-review stylee impressions rather than actionable comments, which is why I've commented here rather than the FAC (but if you want to move them to the article talk page, feel free):
Charlie Clough
The stats I put in are from the official Sutton United website seen here, you can put it back in and reference it yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.194.233.64 (talk) 23:54, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't know if these comments of yours make you too involved to take administrative action here, but if not, could I get a brief block against this user. They've gotten several final warnings for introducing unsourced or improperly sourced material (including your two) over the last few months. Despite that we get, this edit, which directly contradicts the source cited, and this edit which is partially based on Transfermarkt, an unreliable source I had asked them not to use several times. Thanks in advance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:12, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, I must have missed this message. I've given the user a 4im warning for addition of unsourced content. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:52, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
IP Block?
At the beginning of September you blocked 110.22.57.193 (talk · contribs), seemingly for improperly sourced edits. Now we get this edit in which they change the height of a footballer based on dubious sources. It's also worth noting that I've asked them to stop using Transfermarkt as a source on multiple occasions. I'm not sure whether another block is in order or whether a warning is sufficient. I'll leave that to your discretion. Also, considering my last comment on your talk page (see section User:Mattc1000 above), I would appreciate if you would actually respond, even if is just to say you've seen my comment. Cheers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 03:54, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- Given a level 3 warning. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:53, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Scott Duncan (referee)
Hello! Your submission of Scott Duncan (referee) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:57, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Man City top of English league
What is wrong here?[5] It has a reliable source and meets WP:V. You first said it should not be on first sentence but it never was, now you say it should not go anywhere. I see no reason for such a relevant fact to be removed from the article. 54321Mark (talk) 17:30, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- It's not suitable for the lead section of the article (which is what I meant first instead of sentence). And imagine what a nightmare it would be maintaining that content for every club article. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:52, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- I don't mind doing the updates, I mean I would never imply doing it for 2nd, 3rd, 4th and the rest. What you have to realise is that you already have at this page the line "They are currently top of the league with 30 points from 13 games.". Updates occur always with players as suddenly their appearances increase as well as their goals per season etc. 54321Mark (talk) 21:08, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- Right, but the fact that article has an up-to-date league position doesn't mean other articles should (or that that article should to begin with, even if it were sourced). I think an idea like this needs bring to the wider audience of WT:FOOTY, but I really can't see it garnering much support. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:14, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- I don't mind doing the updates, I mean I would never imply doing it for 2nd, 3rd, 4th and the rest. What you have to realise is that you already have at this page the line "They are currently top of the league with 30 points from 13 games.". Updates occur always with players as suddenly their appearances increase as well as their goals per season etc. 54321Mark (talk) 21:08, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
OrphanReferenceFixer: Help on reversion
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, which results in a big red error in the article. I replaced one of the remaining <ref name="foo"/>
with a copy of the <ref name="foo">...</ref>
; I did not re-insert the reference to where it was deleted, I just replaced one of the remaining instances. What you need to do to fix it is to make sure you remove all instances of the named reference so as to not leave any big red error.
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- It was a different reference causing the error, see this edit. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Ivan Rakitic
Ivan currently has 7 goals for Barcelona. I don't know why you changed it. Croatia1 (talk) 01:18, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, not sure if this is the right avenue to go down, but could you or another admin rollback the creation protection on Borja Mayoral? Somebody wrote it as an attack article so it has been salted to all but admins, I think it would be appropriate to have it be able to be created by autoconfirmed users. I already have a draft on the player, who could make his debut tonight.
Thank you '''tAD''' (talk) 18:31, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Hey there. Now the roles reverse: I come to kindly ask you to review my recently nominated FC Porto list, and help me bring it to featured status. Thanks! Parutakupiu (talk) 20:26, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- Sure, I'll happily look at it in the next few days. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:50, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, regarding the Klopp statistic about no wins in three games being a record, it was reported by John Hartson on BBC radio five live. It's an interesting statistic, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.82.181.14 (talk) 18:24, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Norwegian/Danish infobox punk
My doubt as seen in the title of my message is because one cannot (at least I can't) browse the geolocate feature in accounts, only in IPs, but I bet my left hand he hails from one of the two countries, and both "users" engaged in the same.
Having said that, this person that you warned here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fcb_1019) continues at it, after seeing what I saw in Alberto Lopo I have no doubt in my mind. Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 02:26, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Scott Duncan (referee)
On 30 October 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Scott Duncan (referee), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that English association football referee Scott Duncan officiated a League Two play-off match between Fleetwood Town and York City at Highbury Stadium on 16 May 2014? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Scott Duncan (referee). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
Materialscientist (talk) 12:01, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Mistake
Genuine mistake mate. Apologies 23limegreen (talk) 01:11, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Rémi Garde
Is it time to semi-protect Rémi Garde... You'll be all night reverting. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 23:46, 1 November 2015 (UTC)