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Editing michelle mc cool?

I did not edit michelle mc cool. So stop picking on my ip address. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.107.50.32 (talk) 18:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

You or someone using your IP address obviously did. I was not just picking on your IP address. The tool used to revert vandalism, that is used by me and many, many others opened your page. If you use a shared computer or a shared IP address and didn't then you may ignore the warning. If that is the case, I suggest signing up for an account, which will prevent the confusion later on. Also please sign your posts by using ~~~~ (4 tildes).--NavyBlue84 21:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

STS-131 MPLM

Please stop changing the MPLM to Rafaello. I am a lead Flight Controller on this mission and I am 100% certain that Leonardo will be flying on STS-131. The articles on NASAspaceflight.com are inaccurate. Prenaud (talk) 07:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

All you needed was a reliable source. Just because you are a flight controller and you say so doesn't make it so. If you are not sure if a ref is reliable, then check with WP:RS. The collect space ref is to a forum and is not allowed. Also because you are directly involved with the mission you should be careful in making edits to the article, as its a conflict of interest. Any major changes that might be controversial should be discussed on the talk page first.--NavyBlue84 14:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

STS 130 page is quite poor

At the moment, the STS 130 page contains very few technical details (especially for mission timeline). Also referencing needs to be improved. Some editors just add any arbitrary images (example; landing picture is repeated twice) that they can find in NASA pages. In my view such additions lower the content value of the page. It would be better if the images show of significant event of the mission. I have seen that you put a lot of effort to enhance the content of this page as well as other space related articles. Many thanks for all of your efforts.

152.226.7.201 (talk) 14:09, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I see you do a lot of work too, and thanks for helping make the articles better. I agree a lot of pictures does not help the article. There were a lot of launch photos of the same thing, just slightly different angles, so i removed several. When I do the mission time-lines, I try to make it technical, but not to technical. You want someone who doesn't follow space related stuff to read it and know whats being said, but yet keep those who do follow interested, it is an extremely fine line. I will go over it in the next few days and see what I can do, I know there is still lots more work to be done. I will try to dig up more refs and put them in. Thanks for for the message and look forward to bettering the space articles with you!--NavyBlue84 14:48, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Congrats on ruining wikipedia

Apparently everyone who doesnt agree with you, and your deletionist friends, is 'defamatory'. Maybe you should try North Korea? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.206.173.186 (talk) 13:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

On the contrary, I am not a "deletionist". However, making unhelpful and nonconstructive comments doesn't help Wikipedia at all. Saying someone is a deletionist is a bit defamatory and inappropriate. Just because something you think should be included got deleted, doesn't mean Wikipedia is ruined, in fact, it is pointless to document every single ice particle incident in the space shuttle program (it happens on every mission).--NavyBlue84 15:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

STS 134 mission patch

STS 134 mission patch is now available at the following NASA link http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-134/html/sts134-s-001.html 152.226.7.202 (talk) 23:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Done!! --NavyBlue84 00:58, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Great!, Thanks a lot. The STS-134 patch looks a bit small compared to other shuttle patches (may be due to its unique shape). Can all Shuttle patches (from STS-1) be made to have the same size (just a suggetion and even if not its should be fine) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurun (talkcontribs) 02:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
I am going to work on that. I want to try to remove the white background, but I am not sure how to. I am going to try to figure it out. Someone else might upload a better version in the mean time.--NavyBlue84 03:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I have read in NASAspaceflight.com that STS-134 mission duration is 12 days. However, I have not seen this change in official NASA pages which still states that it is a 10 day mission. 152.226.7.202 (talk) 02:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I have noticed that NASA takes there time in updating mission pages that are still aways off (i.e. STS-131 pages will be updated daily or hourly as needed, but STS-132 and onwards will get updated infrequently). NSF has been determind to be reliable, and so if they say 12 days, then it is more then likely going to be 12 days, unless some major change happens, which is possible. I looked for other sources (Spaceflightnow, Space.com and others) but couldn't find any that stated a mission duration. If you can find one then please add it and make the changes as needed. --NavyBlue84 03:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

NASA STS 132 Mission Summary

Just found this. The last dot point about the commemorative mission path on the STS 132 fact sheet (current Ref. 26) is almost the same (sentences) as what is found in the STS-132 Wikipedia web page (see commemorative path section). Seems like sometimes, NASA is also referring to Wikipedia content.

152.226.7.202 (talk) 00:15, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

It would appear that way, wouldn't it! The section in the article about it is strung togther from bits and pieces of the three ref's, and that's probably what NASA did. I think it is just coincidence that it is exactly identical. I am sure there are some people from NASA on Wikipedia, and I am sure some content from Wikipedia is used, but this I think is a coincidence!!--NavyBlue84 00:58, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

ISS Expedition pages

The current pages on ISS expeditions (Example: Expedition 22,23) looks primitive and contain very few interesting/useufl information. Would it be good to make a standard template for the pages similar to STS pages since the ISS will be operating at least till 2020? It would be also great to encourage Wiki contributers to edit the expedition pages to complete them. Videos/images could also be added to reflect major expedition milestones.

Kurun (talk) 04:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

  • I don't think you can really create a template for expeditions. Info like launch details, visiting vehicles, more detailed spacewalk info and science info (if possible) could be added. As for encouraging people to edit the articles, I think that will happen on its own. I plan to try and figure something out and begin working on ISS expedition articles, but at the moment I am working on adding docking/undocking info to info boxes for STS articles and trying to get some cohesiveness between them in-terms of times and dates. If you have any other specific ideas let me know and we can see what we can do!--NavyBlue84 16:16, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Roscosmos Images

Are the images in the Russian Roscosmos site copy righted? [1]. If not how can they be included in the Wikipedia? (like what license / any permission etc)? Thanks 152.226.7.201 (talk) 23:58, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

  • The link you provided is to Energia, not Roscosmos (they do a lot of work for Roscosmos). As for permissions I am not sure what if any can be used. I think someone like GW Simulations, MBK004 or Colds7ream might be better to ask that question of. I have never uploaded anything from anywhere but NASA, so I am really not sure, but I know one of them can help you for sure!--NavyBlue84 00:23, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

I really appreciate your help on the Ryan Seacrest page.enJoy! DocOfSoc (talk) 03:38, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

No problem!! Just trying to make Wiki a better place.--NavyBlue84 12:36, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

STS 133 crew patch

Can you post a new version of the patch only ? At the moment, there seems to be a large white background encircling the patch 152.226.7.202 (talk) 00:45, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

  • It shouldn't be there. I don't see an white background now. The first one I uploaded did have that background. I have uploaded a PNG version and made sure that background was gone.--NavyBlue84 02:21, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Infobox Astronaut

Is it possible to add "Spacewalks" to the Astronaut infobox (to show how many spacewalks that an astronaut has conducted)?. I am sorry, I do not know how to add such new information into an infobox or whether it is appropriate to show something like that in the first place. 137.132.3.10 (talk) 09:42, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Done!! Adding the label eva1 will display total eva's and eva2 will display total eva time. For the eva time please spell hours and minutes not just hr and min, makes it look a little nicer. I will start adding some myself and you can as well.--NavyBlue84 12:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Great, Thanks a lot. I really appreciate your help. Do you know of any source where I can obtain the total no of EVAs and the total time for a particular astronaut? 152.226.7.201 (talk) 12:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Shuttle Mission Pages

Apart from several recent STS missions, most of the other Wikipedia pages on Shuttle Flights are incomplete/lack information etc. It would be also nice to create an uniform look on all pages starting from STS-1 to STS-134 or STS-135 if it happens. I am aware that information about earlier missions are very scarce. However, if the layout of the pages are consistent and uniform that would be great! (and would be a tribute to the STS program, in my view). Are Wikipedia editors interested in making such an effort to improve the quality of the STS mission pages? Kurun (talk) 04:21, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

  • I think they are. However, as I am sure you are aware, most editors have differing views on how it should look. I think having them look like the articles on recent missions would be good. Some of the missions for which there is none to very little info, is because they were classified or the payloads were privately owned, and that information isn't public. However I believe there is enough info to start working on all the articles to give them a uniform look. I will jump in and start helping bring all these pages into line so they look somewhat decent.--NavyBlue84 12:20, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

STS-133 spacewalks

See Bill Harwood's CBS site [2]. He still has a STS-132 title, but all information is out in that page Kurun (talk) 02:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Its still months away. Lets wait until there is more info to add to the table. Is that likely going to be the plan, yes. However, an empty table like that does not look very appealing. So waiting until there is more info as well, is a prudent course of action, I think.--NavyBlue84 03:10, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
OK I agree. Any information on whether Atlantis or Discovery will be used if STS-135 is approved?. Wikipedia has it as Atlantis while forum messages in the NASAspaceflight.com site mentions that it is still not decided or even it will be Discovery. 137.132.3.10 (talk) 05:35, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Nothing on that. STS-335 is Atlantis, and the theory is Atlantis will get 135 since she will be just about if not fully ready for launch. NASA managers could decide though to change to Discovery since she has SSPTS and can carry a lighter cryo load and stay longer. Won't know for sure until much much later, like January if its going to be Atlantis or Discovery, could be sooner like when the approval is given. Just have to wait and see.--NavyBlue84 11:57, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Gregory H. Johnson

Hi ViennaUK, I have reverted your edit to Gregory H. Johnson. I did so because you deleted a proper category. Greg Johnson is British, this is verifiable by checking his NASA bio, which is linked at the end of the article.--NavyBlue84 23:58, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi, and thank you for your message. I don't doubt that Gregory H. Johnson was born in South Ruislip, Middlesex, United Kingdom. However, does this make him British? Does he hold UK citizenship? (He is a NASA astronaut and former Colonel in the US Air Force, so I don't think he does!) Calling him British just because of his birthplace is problematic, just think of astronauts Shannon Lucid (b. in Shanghai, China), Michael Collins (b. Rome, Italy) and Stephen Thorne (b. Frankfurt, Germany). Lucid is not Chinese, Collins is not Italian, and Thorne is not German - they are all US citizens who were born as children of US citizens, only that their birthplaces are not in the US of A. Greg Johnson looks like a similar case to me. ViennaUK (talk) 21:53, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
The difference for the astro's you point out is that they were born to Americans abroad. I am Canadian by birth, but have American citizenship, that does not make me American. Since there is no info on his parents, we can only go by his birthplace as to what nationality he is.--NavyBlue84 22:55, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I see that we are working with different definitions of nationality here... but if (and I thank you for bringing up this example) holding American citizenship does not make a person American, what else does - is e.g. Henry Kissinger (born in Germany to German parents, naturalised US citizen) a German politician then? Very tricky I must say! Anyways, was nice talking to you. ViennaUK (talk) 21:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

STS-112

I wrote the mission timeline part of STS-112 since these mission pages are quite pathetic; full of English Language errors / insufficient amount of references / figures etc. It would be better if all Editors could start to enhance these pages. I deliberately placed them blank so that others can come and contribute (if left hidden people wont see that the page is not complete!) 152.226.7.202 (talk) 14:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

To add more to that, it would be better to bring all mission pages under a single format (the one we have for flights such as STS-122 to STS 132 which is great!). I recently, re did an entire mission page (STS-117) which at the beginning was again incomplete. Since the Shuttle Program is winding down pretty soon, it would be nice to have informative Wiki pages starting from STS-1 up to STS-135 ! 152.226.7.202 (talk) 14:09, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm Sorry

I can tell by your multicoloured username that you are obviously a very important wikipedian.

Please accept my humble apologies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.22.36.54 (talk) 01:31, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Columbia accident

The changes that you put back in are technically wrong. The leading edge of the wing (the RCC) is not covered by tiles. I work in the Space Shuttle Program and no one there would ever refer to the leading edge of the wing as "tiled". Read the CAIB report and you will see that the wing leading edge is called RCC. Not tiles. Good luck. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thor Five (talkcontribs) 22:55, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

  • They may not technically be referred to as tiles, but the wins are not one long piece. They are made up of several panels, and should be referred to as such. The way you had it worded was grammatically wrong and that is why I reverted. I am not disputing the fact they are not called tiles. I have changed to read reinforced carbon-carbon panels.--NavyBlue84 02:30, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Your RfA

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Your ongoing RfA

Sorry, but I think it's time you withdraw your RfA. By the way, you may have confused admin recall, which is voluntary, with ArbCom review, which is involuntary. Guoguo12--Talk--  18:43, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I sure hope this message had nothing to do with your retirement... :( Guoguo12--Talk--  21:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Wait

Please don't retire. Take the comments on your RfA as suggestions rather than criticisms. I can respect your decision if you still want to retire, but in my opinion, the encyclopedia can't afford to keep losing good contributors like you. The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 19:11, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Well that didn't go exactly as planned...
I'm sorry that your RfA didn't work out that well. You're clearly a good editor, and you didn't deserve to get slaughtered so unceremoniously. RfA tends to pile on a disproportionate amount of negative energy as to what is required. I've prepared an essay offering advice on second RfAs. Please read it, and see if you find it helpful. I think that one day, you'll make a good admin. This will give you something to focus on in the mean time. Best wishes for the future, Sven Manguard Talk 19:22, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
And yes, please don't go. Sven Manguard Talk 19:22, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
It is more towards a discussion I put into in a portal. I may reconsider and come back when I have more time as I am busy with school right now.--NavyBlue84 20:20, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
I hope you do come back - we need all the good editors we can get, and I do hope your RfA doesn't play any part in turning you away. RfA can be tough, but I'm sure nobody thinks bad of you for running. In fact, the amount of moral support and constructive suggestions you got makes me think quite the opposite, that people think well of you for your enthusiasm and your desire to help. Look forward to seeing you around some more -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 22:35, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

DJ Skitz

Hi Navy blue84, I've significantly expanded DJ Skitz and found a lot of new sources since you commented in the AfD. Would you mind taking another look at it? Thanks SmartSE (talk) 00:59, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Commented on AfD talk page.--NavyBlue84 03:02, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Could I point you towards the "Do not make conflicting recommendations" part of Wikipedia:AFD#How_to_discuss_an_AfD? Cheers SmartSE (talk) 21:55, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

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STS-135 Patch

The current patch on the STS-135 article cites CollectSpace as its source, but where is the permission for it to remain up [and where can I view permissions]? (Nor have I received an e-mail from CollectSpace.) NASA has not yet officially released the patch. Or, if I read correctly, you're just letting this fly because you don't have the time? I apologise for the email; I'm unacquainted with the Wikipedia profile system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unfrared (talkcontribs) 22:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't know why this patch is being left up. The permission would be on the page of the image. You are right, I haven't done anything to that page to tag it, simply because I am busy with school. I have a heavy class load and only get a very brief amount of time for frivolous web activities.--NavyBlue84 01:03, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

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User Guz23456 hello navy blue84 are you administrator yes or no Guz23456 (talk) 19:48, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Heidemarie Stefanyshyn-Piper

Hello, I have found a number of citations for Heidemarie Stefanyshyn-Piper and have dropped them on the Talk Page. Perhaps you can take a look. Gamweb (talk) 19:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

  • Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Most of those links are reliable (esp. the NASA, Space.com and MIT ones). The ones about her trip to the Ukraine, if there are other websites/sources that say the same then you may use them. If you can't find others about that, then I would take it to WP:RS.--NavyBlue84 23:11, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Nautical or statute miles?

Hi,

Thanks for fixing the number of miles at STS-120. Are you able to specify whether the STS distances travelled are 'miles' are nautical or statute? Lightmouse (talk) 18:50, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Typically, the distance traveled that is given by NASA is in miles. Altitude is usually in nautical miles. I will double check the NASA history page for STS-120 just to be sure.--NavyBlue84 23:22, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Kelly

FWiW, I'm really not fussed if it uses MDY or DMY (in fact my personal preference is for the latter) and the only reason I reverted that change is because I was reverting the unsourced addition of "retired" at the same time. However, I would just point you to MOS:DATE, which states that changes between date formats should not be made without consensus. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

No worries, I figured that was why but wasn't 100% sure. I changed the dates since a lot of space articles (ie. space shuttle, ISS and expedition articles, as well as a number of space related bio's) are in DMY. It is a slow process but all articles are getting to DMY. As of yet, I have not heard any discourse for the change. The moment I hear it, I will stop and talk about it. As for the ref, I didn't have time right then to add it (couldn't find the article). Hope that is a satisfactory explanation! Cheers--NavyBlue84 13:33, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Fair enough. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:40, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

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I bumped its rating up to B-class but it is still saying C-class! Hopefully it works and just is slow in fixing it.--NavyBlue84 13:24, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

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Just a note that I've removed the death information on Janice E. Voss. I've heard the same rumors but without a reliable source, WP:BIO prevents us from adding them to the article.--RadioFan (talk) 18:12, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Navyblue84, I am glad you took the time to have a say there. I was quite worried it was very lopsided and was thinking I should change my vote to balance it up a bit, like maybe give WDGraham two votes because he seems so upset over it all. So I'm glad there is at least a little more balance.

The tally was more to illustrate people's objections to the original insertion, rather than to tally their eventual course of action. Some have left and so forth. I do wish you felt you could edit more on the page, I wish everyone felt they could freely edit on the page really. I'd rather there were no harsh feelings after the original change was made, like where people have stormed off. I guess I try to champion the most needy causes really.

Do you have any ideas on how to make people feel more welcome to return ? I know it's not exactly a popular cause, but we could certainly use all the help we can get and there have been some very skilled editors who have left. I feel that wiki is somewhat doomed when we can't keep all the editors together. Penyulap talk 04:22, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi NavyBlue84,

I was wondering if it's correct to merge Tiangong 3 and CCM ? I thought you might know, if you can answer on Talk:Core Cabin Module that would be cool. Thanks ! Penyulap talk 12:30, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

There is a new bot which can help with Tiangong 1, the ISS, and now that I actually think about it, just about anything else in Orbit(though my interest does not extend that far at all, just stations are cool), I would like to invite you to comment on it at Talk:Tiangong 1 Penyulap talk 21:44, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi NavyBlue84,

Can you please expand on "And since we are discussing and opposing templates, I object to the one you added about being available to help." what is your objection exactly ? Penyulap 04:16, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi

Hi Navy blue, please have a look on Genesis talkpage if you have time and feel inclined. Penyulap 09:43, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

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Best regards, SteviethemanDelivered: 01:12, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

A black brassière in outer space

The photograph you uploaded in 2009 of an astronaut in orbit reveals that she is wearing a black bra (high resolution version). I have studied countless images from space but I've never seen that before. I just noticed when I was trying to discern what device she was wearing on her wrist.

Earlier, in this other picture, I discovered she was reading the children's book Elmer and the Dragon (a text I'd never heard of) in the cupola. It was curiosity about that that first set me zooming into obscure detail, so I added the latter picture to the article about the book. Spideog (talk) 14:46, 18 December 2024 (UTC)