User talk:Oil.sharon

May 2012

Welcome to Wikipedia, Oil.sharon. I've looked over your edits to "Mohamed Bin Issa Al Jaber‎", after the page was brought up at the noticeboard which covers biographical content here. Unfortunately there are a number of problems with your contributions.

After creating your account you proceeded to add a large amount of contentious and negative material, often unsourced or poorly sourced, to that biography. In fact, as far as I can see that has been your only contribution to Wikipedia. Based on this it is likely editors will infer it is the single‑purpose for your decision to edit here. Although the page was not exceptional in the first place, your edits essentially transformed it into an attack page.

Adding such material is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue to do so you may be blocked from editing. Biographies of Living Persons ("BLPs") must be written conservatively and responsibly. This means all content must be supported by reliable sources, and must be written neutrally without giving undue weight to particular aspects. Most important of all, biographical information must conform with our Policy on content about living persons. Thank you. --92.6.202.54 (talk) 23:31, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear moderators,

I am writing you in response to the warning you have posted on my talk page dated May 29, 2012, and regarding my contributions to the article "Mohamed Bin Issa Al Jaber".

Kindly note the following:

As I have read many articles in the media on Mr. Al Jaber, I was struck by the unrepresentative content on the individual in Wikipedia and on the differences in content between the German and English versions.
I have bought the book entitled “Mohamed Bin Issa Al Jaber - High Quality content by Wikipedia articles” by Frederic P Miller, Agnes F Vandome and John McBrewster – Published by Alphascript publishing, 2011 (ISBN: 6135590138, EAN: 9786135590135, http://www.valorebooks.com/textbooks/mohamed-bin-issa-al-jaber/9786135590135 - Price: Euro 35), and I was also struck by its lack of accurate information.
Accordingly, I have completed the article with sourced and reliable information that refer to the professional track record of this public international figure that is Mr. Al Jaber.
And as you can see when referring to the sources, the media coverage on the individual is sometimes negative.
Please also note that I have kept and added positive references regarding Mr. Al Jaber’s track record (such as Forbes mentions, philanthropy, education, awards, etc.).
Furthermore, please note that I have also referred to the Wikipedia page in German that is very well sourced.

Awaiting for you kind reply,

Best regards,

--Oil.sharon (talk) 14:32, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your note. Wikis such as different language versions of Wikipedia are never suitable sources for articles. Equally, because they're sites anybody can edit, pages on foreign-language Wikipedias are often poor models for articles here.

You mentioned you bought a book from Alphascript publishing about the person. As you'll see from our page about Alphascript, they are print-on-demand titles – self-published – thus unsuitable to use as sources to build articles. Additionally, that publisher aggregates articles from Wikipedia and sells them as "books"; essentially, you were paying for a copy of the free Wikipedia article.

It is true there is negative as well as positive media coverage on Al Jaber. However, the information you added was almost exclusively negative, often poorly sourced, to the extent the page could reasonably meet our definition of attack page after your edits.

Your comment about keeping and adding positive material about education and awards paints an inaccurate picture in my view, see below.

Summary of your additions:

Use of random blogs (unsuitable)
Unsourced vague rumour-mongering "Some rumours state" (unsuitable)
Frequent reference to rumour/gossip (we're not a tabloid)
"However, his sources of wealth remain mysterious." (What are you trying to imply there? Regardless, the article isn't the place for it)
Sensationalist headings at odds with our NPOV and living person Policies – examples: "Fined by Egyptian Court"; "Litigation and defaulted payments"; "Rumours in Iraq"; "International business endeavours and multiple litigations" (we are not a tabloid)
Use of wikis for content – example "According to Internet sources ...<ref name="German Wikipedia version"/>"
WP:BLPCRIME problems
"case was settled after the two parties reached a 'private and secret agreement'" (not neutral, presumably you mean settled amiably out of court)
Frequent editorialising – e.g. "However, and to no one’s surprise"; "after months of empty promises, he failed to"; "As a matter of fact" (clear POV)
The information on honorary advanced degrees and philanthropies was already in the article before your first ever edit. All you seem to have done is add a sentence alleging he only got them because he gave the institutions money.

All articles, and particularly biographies of living people need to be reliably sourced without cherry-picking of negative material, disinterested, free of original research or synthesis, and must be neutral in their point of view. Kind regards, 92.6.202.54 (talk) 16:59, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear moderator,

Thank you for your comments that I will of course take into consideration in all of my future Wikipedia contributions.

I will make sure that my contributions to Mr. Al Jaber’s page appear more neutral than what can be found on the individual in media coverage (may they be in French, English, German and/or Arabic).

I will also add additional sources to the inserted information in order to support the page’s reliability.

Accordingly, kindly inform me of the process that you would like me to follow in order to submit my future contributions on Mr. Al Jaber’s page (on the article talk page, etc).

Awaiting for your reply,

Best regards,

--Oil.sharon (talk) 08:58, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]