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Tyndall Glacier

Hey, thanks for your work on Tyndall Glacier (Alaska)! My first serious content work wasn't nearly as good. I've marked it as reviewed. Feel free to ping me or message me on my talk page if you have any questions. Quick tip: when referring to content that is present in another article, there's a nice template {{Further}} which puts a hatnote at the top of the section. That's often preferable to something like "see Cow for further information". Ovinus (talk) 20:34, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thank you!! That's a good trick with the {{Further}} template—it felt clunky as I was writing it so I'm glad there's a way around it. Cheers! Penitentes (talk) 20:50, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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		Another great article at Fawn Fire (2021). Well done! :) Ovinus (talk) 03:04, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much! It's been a lot of fun so far. And I appreciate the copyedits!! Penitentes (talk) 13:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, again

Hope you're well, Penitentes. If you're not aware, Wikipedia has a process called Did You Know? which appears on the main page. Essentially, when an article is created or greatly expanded, it can be nominated to appear as a little "hook" on the main page, for 12 or 24 hours (depending on how many hooks are enqueued). For example, for Fawn Fire (2021), a fun hook might have been: Did you know that the alleged arsonist who caused the 2021 Fawn Fire in California, which burned 8,578 acres of land, claimed she was only trying to purify bear urine? Alas there's a 7-day window on these things. But next time you publish or greatly expand an article, and you think there's something funny worth a DYK nomination (probably not true of every article—can't think of anything "hooky" in Tyndall Glacier (Alaska)), feel free to nominate it. Ovinus (talk) 05:32, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, thank you. I knew about the DYK process but thought it was limited to Good/Featured articles of any age, so the recency thing is actually really cool. I'll keep an eye out for any interesting hooks/factoids in upcoming articles. Penitentes (talk) 13:00, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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		I just reviewed your article on Tulainyo Lake and it was GREAT. I learned a lot from it and discovered there are people willing to hike up to places like that with scuba gear. Here I was thinking hiking with ham radio gear was nuts! I have a soft spot for the Sierra backcountry, as a Boy Scout I really enjoyed my time backpacking so these articles always make my day and when they're well written it's even better. I hope you write more articles and if you need help or run into problems please reach out on my talk page. Dr vulpes ^{(💬 • 📝)} 21:12, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's so kind of you!! I didn't know too much about Tulainyo before I started writing it—I'm also a pretty active Sierra backcountry enthusiast and really admired Tulainyo on my way up Mount Russell. Ended up digging into it a bit and kept finding interesting little nuggets that I thought people might like.

Really glad you enjoyed, I'll try to keep writing more when neat stuff pops up! Penitentes (talk) 13:04, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seconding Dr vulpes. A thrilling and compelling read; hope my copyedits didn't detract. I urge you to nom this one for DYK. :) Ovinus (talk) 17:19, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the good feedback and the copyedits! All were well-deserved, I'm sure, I don't write/revise in a super linear way.

I figured maybe the Wedding of the Waters could be a neat DYK? I'll go over that subsection and make sure each sentence is sourced before I maybe nom it. Cheers!! Penitentes (talk) 21:34, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A dude with a gord was set up there to get some water, then had it carried to Death Valley using a Native American runner, Pony Express, miner and burro, 20-mule team, stagecoach, train, car and plane. Yeah that's pretty neat! Dr vulpes ^{(💬 • 📝)} 21:49, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yellowstone fires of 1988

Hi Penitentes, hope you're well! Really nice work on Mosquito Fire—34,000 page views. :) I mentioned some of your work to a fellow editor (SandyGeorgia), who asked whether you would be interested in the article Yellowstone fires of 1988. It's up for a featured article review (WP:FAR), meaning that the community is debating whether it should be kept as a featured article, because it's not up to standard at the moment. (See Wikipedia:Featured_article_review/Yellowstone_fires_of_1988/archive1.) Essentially, if the article is cleaned up and referenced to standard, the article will be kept as a featured article. Like Sandy, I think you have the writing skills and subject-matter interest to perhaps enjoy that process. Of course, it can be rather arduous to work through a long article and respond to others' comments, but I wanted to offer. Ovinus (talk) 21:56, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, cheers! The Mosquito Fire was a just a right place/right time thing. Any fire that looks like a nuke going off within 24 hours of starting is probably going to earn itself an article before long, and I'm sure once it's contained it'll be down to ~20 views a day.

That said, that's a kind offer and I'd be happy to help out. There's not a lot of wildfire FAs and I'd hate to lose one. I'll check in on what needs doing tonight and tomorrow! Hope I can assist. Penitentes (talk) 22:30, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Tulainyo Lake

On 28 September 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tulainyo Lake, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1937, water from Tulainyo Lake (pictured) was carried by runner, horseback, donkey, covered wagon, twenty-mule team, stagecoach, train, car, and plane to Death Valley to mark a highway opening? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tulainyo Lake. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Tulainyo Lake), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Vanamonde 00:02, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats @Penitentes! I'm really glad that your article is on the front page! You worked really hard and your material is great! Dr vulpes ^{(💬 • 📝)} 03:03, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, your photo's there too!

Ovinus (talk) 08:44, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, thanks you two! Wouldn't have nominated it without the push from you both. It feels good! Penitentes (talk) 13:09, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

		Hook update
		Your hook reached 19,037 views (793.2 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of September 2022 – nice work!

theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 16:48, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thank you for that, that's such a cool stat! Penitentes (talk) 17:20, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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ITN recognition for P-22 (mountain lion)

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Your GA nomination of Fountain Fire

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Thank you very much! I appreciate it—and will be happy to respond quickly to needed changes. Penitentes (talk) 17:00, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Fountain Fire

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Cheers!! That's great feedback to hear. Thanks for taking the time to read through, I'm very much obliged. Penitentes (talk) 17:24, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Storrie Fire

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A barnstar for you!

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	Howdy there. Excellent work on those wildfire articles. They're really impressive! I look forward to seeing you strut your stuff at FAC, if you decide to nominate there. If you do, ping me - I'll definitely make comments. –♠Vamí _IV†♠ 02:52, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much!!! That's so kind—I've really enjoyed watching your articles flow through the GAN queue; Arizona is lucky to have you as its wildfire wiki representative. I'm sure I'll get around to FAC eventually and I will be happy to see you there. Penitentes (talk) 03:31, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Storrie Fire

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DYK for Poe Fire

On 24 February 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Poe Fire, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that aircraft helping to fight the Poe Fire in northern California in September 2001 were grounded by the FAA following the September 11 attacks? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Poe Fire. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Poe Fire), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 00:03, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Fountain Fire

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DYK for Storrie Fire

On 13 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Storrie Fire, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Storrie Fire was started when Union Pacific Railroad workers were repairing train tracks at the Feather Canyon? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Storrie Fire. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Storrie Fire), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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El Dorado Fire

Howdy there. I found myself perusing through wildfire articles again and am just struck by the amount of information available in your articles vis-a-vis mine. I wanted to ask, then, if you could look at El Dorado Fire and give me some pointers for adding context to it. –♠Vamí _IV†♠ 15:12, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Howdy yourself, and thank you! Sometimes I feel like my articles end up more exhausting than exhaustive for readers, so I'm glad you like them. I personally think El Dorado Fire well deserves its GA status; it's a tightly written page, but if you're looking to add more I am happy to help.

The fire's old InciWeb page is broken as a result of a site update, but some of the daily updates from it are still available through the Internet Archive. You could add information from those wrt the fire's progression.

The only major addition I might think of is some more context for the conditions the fire burned in - you mention weather and terrain, which were critical, but a short and broad discussion of the intense 2020 fire season in California might help too. I wonder if any news sources mention difficulty getting enough personnel or equipment to the incident, or the drought's contribution. Penitentes (talk) 14:44, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Friendly head’s up

Hey Penitentes. My ping attempt in an edit summary didn’t work, so I wanted to let you know I partially reverted one of your good faith edits on the 2023 Rolling Fork—Silver City tornado. Using 2021 Western Kentucky tornado as a template layout for individual tornado articles, it looks like the section headers don’t start with “Tornado stikes…” So, I reverted the headers back to what they were previously. I really appreciate your contributions to the article, so please keep up the good work! Cheers! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 19:27, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers! Penitentes (talk) 19:34, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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2023 Hawaii wildfires

Great job expanding this article. I noticed on your user page that you've really helped to build a lot of Wikipedia's articles on disasters. I just wanted to note my appreciation for all of your hard work in this area. Aoi (青い) (talk) 04:28, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I generally enjoy the work (though not so much with this article; it's a pretty grim situation) and it's been nice to expand it with you. Penitentes (talk) 13:51, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Windy Fire (2021)

Hello! I've moved the article to mainspace as requested, but as was raised, in the future it could just also go through AFC. No big deal though, I don't see any reason it shouldn't have been moved, so no harm no foul. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 02:06, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! I wasn't totally certain if this was the right avenue but I'd requested an identical move before and it was completed. I'll keep the AFC route in mind next time. Cheers, Penitentes (talk) 04:55, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you very much for the review and the useful feedback! Have a great one - Penitentes (talk) 18:00, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of California tornadoes

Hey there, thanks for the edit to List of California tornadoes. Was that part of a featured list candidacy spotcheck, by chance, or was it a random one-off edit? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just a one-off! I have the page on my watchlist/check it for reference every so often. That said, if there's any way I can help with the FLC, let me know. Penitentes (talk) 20:17, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

		The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
		For your absolutely BEAUTIFUL image maps! Seriously, as someone who works with QGIS daily, I don't think I've ever seen a more aesthetically-pleasing design than those you've made for our fire articles. Currently staring at them trying to figure out what witchcraft you performed here. Keep up the wonderful work! – T C Memoire 12:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is so kind, thank you!! I don't plan to stop anytime soon—they are a lot of fun to make and it keeps my hobbyist skills sharp. This will keep me going for a while. :-) Penitentes (talk) 13:40, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Penitentes. Thank you for your work on Curve Fire. Another editor, Aszx5000, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

You should be autopatrolled? You are regularly creating article of a high standard. thanks.

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Aszx5000}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Aszx5000 (talk) 17:55, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Autopatrolled granted

Hi Penitentes, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled user right to your account. This means that pages you create will automatically be marked as 'reviewed', and no longer appear in the new pages feed. Autopatrolled is assigned to prolific creators of articles, where those articles do not require further review, and may have been requested on your behalf by someone else. It doesn't affect how you edit; it is used only to manage the workload of new page patrollers.

Since the articles you create will no longer be systematically reviewed by other editors, it is important that you maintain the high standard you have achieved so far in all your future creations. Please also try to remember to add relevant WikiProject templates, stub tags, categories, and incoming links to them, if you aren't already in the habit; user scripts such as Rater and StubSorter can help with this. As you have already shown that you have a strong grasp of Wikipedia's core content policies, you might also consider volunteering to become a new page patroller yourself, helping to uphold the project's standards and encourage other good faith article writers.

Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! —Femke 🐦 (talk) 18:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much! Penitentes (talk) 19:25, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Co-Nominate a GAN with me?

Hey Penitentes! I was checking over 2011 El Reno–Piedmont tornado, and I think it probably qualifies for all the GA criteria. I know you have been editing mostly regarding wildfires. So, I wanted to ask if you wanted to co-nominate it with me? Based on the stats, you created 96.1% of the article. So, it seems only fair that you would be attached to the GAN as well. Let me know your thoughts on this idea. Cheers! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 20:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, WW! I would be willing to nominate it with you. It probably needs a bit of copy-editing and perhaps a little supplemental research, which I can work on over the next week or two. — Penitentes (talk) 00:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar for you!

The Wildfire Barnstar

I have just recently gotten into wildfire-related topics, and I see your name almost everywhere I go. Whether that's with the 2023 California wildfires, Park Fire (my personal favorite) and other wildfire-related lists or standalone articles, I noticed your significant contributions to the wildfire topic, and I'm surprised that you haven't been thanked recently for your wildfire article-specific contributions. So, here's my homemade wildfire barnstar, for you! :D Sir MemeGod ._. (talk - contribs - created articles) 03:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aw, that's very kind!! I didn't even know the WikiProject had barnstars. Thank you for this, and for getting involved in some wildfire articles yourself! It's a pretty quiet corner of the encyclopedia and the articles need a little love. — Penitentes (talk) 14:54, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Wolf Fire

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Wolf Fire you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Rollinginhisgrave -- Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 15:22, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Wolf Fire

The article Wolf Fire you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Wolf Fire and Talk:Wolf Fire/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Rollinginhisgrave -- Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 16:03, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Wolf Fire

The article Wolf Fire you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Wolf Fire for comments about the article, and Talk:Wolf Fire/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Rollinginhisgrave -- Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 22:45, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of Fountain Fire

Congratulations, Penitentes! The article you nominated, Fountain Fire, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, FrB.TG (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on your first FA, @Penitentes! Hopefully this is one of many more yet to come. Cheers Matarisvan (talk) 21:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much!! It's very satisfying and I'm looking forward to staying involved at FAC! — Penitentes (talk) 02:11, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PD-NWS Violations Update #1

I am providing members of the WikiProject of Weather along with users who frequently edit weather-related articles an update to the discussions regarding the PD-NWS image copyright template.

For starters, no "formal" administrative-style rules have occurred. All that means is the template is not formally deprecated and is still in use. However, Rlandmann, an administrator on English Wikipedia, has begun an undertaking of reviewing and assessing all images (~1,400) that use the PD-NWS copyright template.

What we know:

Following email communications, the National Weather Service of Sioux Falls has removed their disclaimer, which has been used for the PD-NWS template for decades. This means, as far as the National Weather Service is concerned, the following statement is no longer valid: By submitting images, you understand that your image is being released into the public domain. This means that your photo or video may be downloaded, copied, and used by others. Currently, the PD-NWS template links to an archived version of the disclaimer. However, the live version of the disclaimer no longer contains that phrase.
See this deletion discussion for this point's information. NWS Paducah (1) failed to give attribution to a photographer of a tornado photograph, (2) placed the photo into the public domain without the photographer explicitly giving them permission to do so (i.e. the photo is not actually in the public domain), (3) and told users to acknowledge NWS as the source for information on the webpage. Oh, to note, this photographer is a magistrate (i.e. a judge). So, the idea of automatically trusting images without clear attribution on weather.gov are free-to-use is in question.
The Wikimedia Commons has a process known as precautionary principle, where if their is significant doubt that an image is free-to-use, it will be deleted. Note, one PD-NWS file has been deleted under the precautionary principle. The closing administrator remarks for the deletion discussion were: "Per the precautionary principle, there is "significant doubt" about the public domain status of this file (4x keep + nominator, 5x delete), so I will delete it."
Several photographs/images using the PD-NWS are currently mid-deletion discussion, all for various reasonings.
As of this message, 250 PD-NWS images have been checked out of the ~1,400.
The photograph of the 1974 Xenia tornado (File:Xenia tornado.jpg) was found to not be in the public domain. It is still free-to-use, but under a CC 2.0 license, which requires attribution. From April 2009 to August 2024, Wikipedia/Wikimedia was incorrectly (and by definition, illegally) using the photograph, as it was marked incorrectly as a public domain photograph.

Solutions:
As stated earlier, there is no "formal" rulings, so no "formal" changes have been made. However, there is a general consensus between editors on things which are safe to do:

Images made directly by NWS employees can be uploaded and used under the new PD-USGov-NWS-employee template (Usage: {{PD-USGov-NWS-employee}} ). This is what a large number of PD-NWS templated images are being switched to.
Images from the NOAA Damage Assessment Toolkit (DAT) can be uploaded and used under the PD-DAT template (Usage: {{PD-DAT}} ). A large number of images are also being switched to this template.

For now, you are still welcome to upload images under the PD-NWS template. However, if possible it is recommended using the two templates above. I will send out another update when new information is found or new "rulings" have been made. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 03:39, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fire Tornado article

For the purposes of your fire tornado article, would the Park Fire be counted as a "confirmed" fire tornado? If so, should it be added? https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-07-26/park-firenado-chico-california maybe could be helpful in your decision Wildfireupdateman (talk) 18:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I'll probably add a radar signature of a fire tornado on there eventually Wildfireupdateman (talk) 18:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll take a look at the article at some point and see what needs to be added/addressed! — Penitentes (talk) 18:48, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. can you please add a "missing data" tag of sorts for the Monument Fire of 2021 as it is missing lots of fire progression data. I don't know how to add tags Wildfireupdateman (talk) 18:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NVM I got it Wildfireupdateman (talk) 19:05, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PD-NWS Violations Update #2 (Key To Read Third Section)

I am providing members of the WikiProject of Weather along with users who frequently edit weather-related articles an new update (2nd update) to the discussions regarding the PD-NWS image copyright template.

On the Commons, an RFC discussion is taking place to figure out how to manage the template. No "formal" administrative-style rules have occurred, so nothing has changed. That is not a surprise as the RFC is still ongoing.

What is new?

The entire Template:PD-NWS has been placed inside a "License Review" template, which is viewable via the link aforementioned.
Most of the photographs which were uploaded to the Commons originally under the PD-NWS template (approximately 1,500) have been reviewed. Out of those ~1,500 images, only about 150 are requiring additional looks. Most images have been verified as free-to-use and switched to a respective, valid template.
As of this moment, approximately 50 photos have been nominated for deletion (results pending).
A handful of images have been deleted (either confirmed copyrighted or under the Commons precautionary principle.
One image has been kept following a deletion request under the PD-NWS template.

How to deal with new photos?

Given all of this, you might be wondering how the heck you use weather photos while creating articles? Well, here is what you can do!

If the photo was made by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (excluding NWS), You can upload it under the PD-NOAA template via {{PD-NOAA}}.
If the photo was made by the National Weather Service (NOT Third Party), you can upload it using the new PD-NWS-employee template via {{PD-USGov-NWS-employee}}.
- If the photo originates on the Damage Assessment Toolkit, you can upload it using the PD-DAT template via {{PD-DAT}}.
If the photo is from a U.S. NEXRAD radar, you can upload it using the PD-NEXRAD template via via {{PD-NEXRAD}}.

What about third-party photos?

In the case of third-party photos...i.e. ones not taken by the National Weather Service themselves...there is an option which was discussed and confirmed to be valid from an English Wikipedia Administrator.

KEY: Third party images of tornadoes & weather-related content can potentially be uploaded via Wikipedia's Non-Free Content Guidelines!
Experiments/testing has been done already! In fact, I bet you couldn't tell the difference, but the tornado photograph used at the top of the 2011 Joplin tornado was already switched to a Non-Free File (NFF)! Check it out: File:Photograph of the 2011 Joplin tornado.jpeg! That photo's description can also be used as a template for future third-party tornado photographs uploaded to Wikipedia...with their respective information replaced.
NFFs can be uploaded to multiple articles as well!
The absolute key aspect of NFFs is that they relate to the article and are not decoration. For example with the Joplin tornado, the photograph: (1) shows the size of the tornado, (2) shows the "wall of darkness", which was described by witnesses, (3) shows a historic, non-repeatable event of the deadliest tornado in modern U.S. history. The exact reasoning does not have to be extremely specific as Wikipedia's NFF guidelines "is one of the most generous in the world" (words of Rlandmann (not pinged), the administrator reviewing all the PD-NWS template images).
Tornado photographs will almost certainly qualify under the NFF guidelines, especially for tornadoes with standalone articles or standalone sections.
NFFs cannot be used when a free-photograph is available, no matter the quality, unless the section is about that specific photograph. For example, the photograph used at the top of the 2013 Moore tornado article is confirmed to be free-to-use, therefore, no NFFs of that tornado can be uploaded on Wikipedia. However, the "Dead Man Walking" photograph could almost certainly be uploaded as an NFF to the 1997 Jarrell tornado article as that photograph is the topic of a section in the article.
NFFs currently on Wikipedia can and should be placed in this category: Category:Non-free pictures of tornadoes.

Update Closing

Hopefully all of that information kept you informed on the Commons copyright discussion process and how you can still create the best articles possible! If you have a question about something mentioned above, reply back and I will do my best to answer it! Also, ping me in the process to ensure I see it! Have a good day! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 01:02, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Line Fire

Hey Penitentes, appreciate your committed to updating the Line Fire Wikipedia page, that fire is currently severely affecting my home. Keep doing what you are doing! JoshuaTheBestGuy (talk) 02:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to hear that, and glad that the work is meaningful to someone! It's a group effort. Best wishes for your home. — Penitentes (talk) 13:13, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Copper Fire

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Copper Fire you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Sammi Brie -- Sammi Brie (talk) 01:04, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Copper Fire

The article Copper Fire you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Copper Fire and Talk:Copper Fire/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Sammi Brie -- Sammi Brie (talk) 01:25, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Copper Fire

The article Copper Fire you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Copper Fire for comments about the article, and Talk:Copper Fire/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Sammi Brie -- Sammi Brie (talk) 14:21, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Rocky Fire

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Rocky Fire you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Personisinsterest -- Personisinsterest (talk) 12:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Rocky Fire

The article Rocky Fire you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Rocky Fire for comments about the article, and Talk:Rocky Fire/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Personisinsterest -- Personisinsterest (talk) 15:05, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Buckweed Fire has been accepted

Buckweed Fire, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out as Stub-Class or Start-Class and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider leaving us some feedback.

Thanks again, and happy editing!

Bkissin (talk) 00:12, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Penitentes. Thank you for your work on Buckweed Fire. Another editor, SunDawn, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thank you for creating the article! Have a wonderful and blessed day!

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