User talk:Solarra/Archive 6

Archive 1 ← Archive 4 Archive 5 Archive 6 Archive 7 Archive 8 Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Printed circuit board Dear Solara, I just tried to add a link for Printed Circuit board Wikipedia page, and you have marked it as a spam. Do please let me know weather http://www.ipc.org/default.aspx, http://www.ipcoutlook.org/, http://www.smtonline.com/pages/smtmagazine.cgi this link which is present on page not a spam ? Are those links are not vehicle for advertising or promotion. ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chetansynergos (talk • contribs) 07:37, 18 July 2014 (UTC) The links that are already there offer a trade magazine that offers issues free of charge. This link is to a company website offering to sell a product. That is the difference. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 07:43, 18 July 2014 (UTC) I totally disagree on you. You mean to say that i am promoting information for paid ? Dear Solara, pleas be realistic before doing any changes as the Wikipedia. From any point of view this site don't look like a magazine http://www.ipcoutlook.org/ and that to its a straight home page of a website who provide other services also. You need to be more careful on what you mark for others. The link posted by me does not promote any thing promotional except the information of Importance of PCB. You please do proper editorial or else I will lose interest on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chetansynergos (talk • contribs) 08:27, 18 July 2014 (UTC) I did not accuse you of promotion for them, I said the link added was promotional. I agree, the IPC website is promotional, which is why I removed it (a vandal had distracted me from doing so right away). Please read WP:EL ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 08:36, 18 July 2014 (UTC) Dear Solara, I appreciate the necessary changes made by you to maintain the quality of Wikipedia. Also I would be more appreciated if you rollback my link, as i am mot expecting any sort of promotion from Wikipedia nor I am expecting any links from Wikipedia, its a pure form of informative content which will be useful for visitors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chetansynergos (talk • contribs) 08:48, 18 July 2014 (UTC) hi Solarra Reason i have added color pencil in crayons because 1) lead of color pencil have same pigment as in crayons 2) Most of countries Germany , and Europe you will Crayons written on color pencil box 3) both are use for drawing by students 4) crayons definition in oxford dictionary also says color pencil — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.56.211.120 (talk) 06:32, 18 July 2014 (UTC) Can you link me to where it lists colored pencils as crayons in the oxford dictionary. From what I understand and what the sources give, colored pencils have no wax in them. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 06:35, 18 July 2014 (UTC) Just sticking my nose in: it might or might not be in the OED, but you"ll absolutely find "pencil crayon" in the Collins Dictionary of Canadian English as a synonym for "coloured pencil" - in fact, the phrase "coloured pencil" is not used (or even much known) in Canada. The word "crayon" has zero zip nada to do with wax; it's French for "pencil". This is absolutely bog-standard usage. --NellieBly (talk) 14:46, 18 July 2014 (UTC) Blanking pages using AWB Hi Solarra! I reverted this edit, this edit, and this edit, where you accidentally blanked articles using AWB. If this is a repeatable bug, could you please report it at WP:AWB/B? Otherwise, please double check your edit before clicking Save. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:34, 18 July 2014 (UTC) I think it is a bug as according to the AWB diffs, it didn't blank the page. I'll report it shortly. Thanks for catching it. In the meantime, I'll be extra careful when AWB mentions the deadend tag. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 02:23, 19 July 2014 (UTC) @GoingBatty: OK I'm at a loss, how in heaven's name do I report it? ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 02:26, 19 July 2014 (UTC) @Solarra: Go to WP:AWB/B, click on "File a new bug report", and fill in the fields with the steps you can do to recreate the issue. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 05:36, 19 July 2014 (UTC) @GoingBatty:  Done Bug report filed :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 05:49, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Jay Abraham edits Hi there, I'm fairly new at wikipedia and not sure the implications of undoing your edits of my edits, so I think it best I leave it to you to fix this. Anyway, you edited a persons family name in the Jay Abraham page from "Humer" to "Humor". This is the person in question: http://www.linkedin.com/in/spikehumer Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StuartL123 (talk • contribs) 09:17, 19 July 2014 (UTC)  Done I honestly thought that was a spelling mistake, thank you for the heads up :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 09:20, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Speedy deletion declined: Awadhesh Narain Singh Hello Solarra. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Awadhesh Narain Singh, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Former cabinet member of a state in India with a population of 100 million people - obviously not a WP:A7. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 10:36, 19 July 2014 (UTC) When I tagged this it was much less clear, glad the user cleaned it up :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 18:00, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Delete page: MANOJ SRIVASTAVA - not public interest Hello, please delete the page MANOJ SRIVASTAVA. This page was created by his son Kunal Srivastava for creating a fake image for Manoj Srivastava. Mostly all statements published in this article are wrong with the intense to push his father. Please check all the given links (references) given in the article. They only proof that Manoj Srivastava worked as an employee for different companies, not more and not less. He is neither an actor (where is the proof?), nor a film director (where is the proof apart from mentioning his amateur 9-minute film with his own son in the lead, which was never publicly screened at any festival - if so...where is the proof?), nor a film festival director (he was alway only an employee in different positions for different festivals - so where is the proof?), nor a producer (where is a proof?), nor an author of any book (where is the proof?). So please again check the article and it's relevance for the public. I don't support fake pages, especially not from persons who are pretenders. Please check with diverse people from any of the festivals, what was the position of Manoj Srivastava. Wikipedia is a platform for giving information on public interest. And this is here defenitely NOT the case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiObserver12345 (talk • contribs) 10:44, 19 July 2014 (UTC)  Done The article is listed for deletion. Feel free to weigh in on the discussion. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 18:07, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Re: On PAs and Nonsense Re your message: Thanks for looking after my talk page. At this point I prefer not to issue a block myself because I don't think it has gotten to that point yet (perhaps I'm being too kind/patient). We shall see what another admin's opinion is regarding the matter. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:50, 19 July 2014 (UTC) @Gogo Dodo: That was the idea of posting it at AIV, I wanted to absolve any notion of WP:INVOLVED so that there can be no question as to the unacceptable nature of the conduct. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 07:52, 19 July 2014 (UTC) I would not have fallen under WP:INVOLVED as all my interactions with that editor have been administrative. I declined to block the editor at the time because I did not feel it had escalated to the point of a block being necessary, not because of any involvement issues. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:20, 19 July 2014 (UTC) @Gogo Dodo: So noted for future reference regarding WP:INVOLVED and aggressive harassment of admins. He ended up being blocked anyways. Just trying to help :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 19:24, 19 July 2014 (UTC) I probably gave him more slack than I should have since he was pretty much repeating himself and then the PA started. Sometimes I let editors go longer than I should, hence my point about being too kind/patient. I get stuck somewhere between WP:ADMINACCT and "enough already, you're just not listening to what I told you". I do appreciate you looking after my talk page. =) On a completely different note, who did you annoy? Probably some LTA sock that I already know about, but there are so many I can't keep them all straight. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:36, 19 July 2014 (UTC) @Gogo Dodo: That would be a sock of Evlekis, there isn't a LTA case on him, but for the past couple weeks he's been making socks and vandalizing my talk page, which is why Yunshui protected it. NawlinWiki made some edit filters that seemed to stem him somewhat, but it appears he's quite determined. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 19:43, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Not familiar with him. You must be doing something right to earn all that attention. =D -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:54, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Turkish local election(İstanbul) Hi,Solarra.This article isn't orphan anymore.I just created this page.I am stil translating the page from Turkish version.Please remove this orphan tag.Thanks your contributions.Thanks from Turkey--Emreculha (talk) 23:23, 19 July 2014 (UTC)  Done ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 23:25, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Links Apropos your recent edit, you may wish to add Henri Regnault and Ajuda National Palace to the article. Tim riley talk 21:04, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Pardon me for being dense, but to which article do you refer? ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 21:11, 19 July 2014 (UTC) You put a tag on it today. Tim riley talk 21:14, 19 July 2014 (UTC) As you preferred to add a tag I have done it for you. It doesn't take much, you know. Tim riley talk 21:25, 19 July 2014 (UTC) To which article are you referring to? I have tagged dozens of articles today. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 21:31, 19 July 2014 (UTC) No matter. Bunging a tag on and rushing off rather than checking for available links, which anyone can do using the italics under the main search box, seems pretty sloppy to me, though others may think differently. You say you have perpetrated the same thing at dozens of articles, and so may I suggest you try helping as suggested rather than just slapping a tag on? It really is not that difficult if you try. Best wishes, Tim riley talk 23:07, 19 July 2014 (UTC) I see what you are referring to. With this edit I tagged an article you made with the {{orphan}} tag. I am tagging articles with this so that the other editors can know to make sure the article is integrated, sometimes I do it myself, but as there are over 100,000 orphaned articles, it would be impossible for me to do it alone. However, I do see your point, but this was not a 'tag and dash,' but an attempt to integrate that article with the over 2 million others. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 23:17, 19 July 2014 (UTC) If you say so, I accept your justification, naturally, Tim riley talk 23:35, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Fleshlight page Hi there, I refer to the following. ""July 2014[edit] Hello, I'm Solarra. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions, such as the one you made with this edit to Fleshlight, because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 09:14, 18 July 2014 (UTC) Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Fleshlight. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been automatically reverted"". What exactly is the nature of your problem with the edits nzdilf made to this page? And why did you consider it vandalism? (Personal attack removed) Please reinstitute nzdilf's edits, if you can, or I will do it myself - unless you do have a validated reason for deleting them. Cheers, NZfauna. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nzfauna (talk • contribs) 22:35, 18 July 2014 (UTC) Personal attacks removed.  Done I restored most of what myself and others had reverted, however I did remove one of the images added as I don't think it added to the encyclopedic value of the article. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 22:44, 18 July 2014 (UTC) EDIT: Please re-add the image of fleshlight usage. I think it is of encyclopaedic use - akin to usage images on the Dildo page, and the autofellatio page, and the anal beads page. Is your objection because the image is labeled as a homosexual man? Given the fact that I'm a lesbian that is not the case. In this specific article, the primary focus is on the main heterosexual product. While the homosexual product is notable and worthy of inclusion in the article, as the primary focus is on the heterosexual product, I feel that a graphic demonstration of the homosexual offshoot product is not necessary. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 23:44, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Please comment on Talk:Treats! Greetings! You have been randomly selected to receive an invitation to participate in the request for comment on Talk:Treats!. Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! If in doubt, please see suggestions for responding. If you do not wish to receive these types of notices, please remove your name from Wikipedia:Feedback request service. — Legobot (talk) 00:02, 20 July 2014 (UTC) Solarra_alt Did you know that there's a user named Solarra_alt? Jwoodward48wiki (talk) 00:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC) Yes I found out via IRC, I request the usurp, it was a vandal. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 00:59, 20 July 2014 (UTC) Breakage In this edit, you broke a a valid ftp: URL by prefixing http://. Glrx (talk) 04:44, 20 July 2014 (UTC) Thanks for catching it :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 05:52, 20 July 2014 (UTC) ANI Didn't mean to cut you off at ANI, but there are some things that we usually do not vote on. Technically, the reason that admins exist is to do stuff on behalf of community, so the community doesn't have to vote on everything. Vandalism, sockpuppetry and copyright infringement are examples of activities where admin can just act based on previous experience, as there is a great amount of damage that is done by the activity. We already know the community wants us to block them past a certain threshold. Now, somethings are more in the gray area, such as topic bans for someone who has been blocked a time or two and has been generally disruptive in a topic area, say Mixed Martial Arts (I used to mediate in that area, it was a mess). In many cases like this, I can't say with 100% certainty what the community wants me to do, so I have to ask them. In both cases, I'm acting on behalf of the community, but in some cases, what they want is obvious. Anyway, you didn't do anything wrong, but this kind of case needs decisive action one way or another, not debate. I'm about to go visit a very sick relative or I would finish it myself. I get the feeling it will require an indef block until it is sorted out, to prevent any further infringement. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 10:51, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Before I go, I want to add that overall, I think your participation in a number of places has been very positive and helpful. That is why I took the time to explain above. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 11:18, 19 July 2014 (UTC) This was one of those times I just wanted to help out, because far too often I see those discussions at ANI become almost incomprehensible due to the fact there is no logical layout, which makes determining consensus that much more difficult. I'm aware WP:COPYRIGHT gives admins quite a bit of leeway to ban/block users for violations, in this case I thought the admin that brought it up was looking for some sort of consensus. Oh well, I'm just glad I can help :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 18:10, 19 July 2014 (UTC) I never question your faith. ANI is a funny animal. It is an unstructured board on purpose, and ironically, things work better because of it. Those of us admin that work it regularly, such as myself, Dangerous Panda, and others, we tend to free style things on purpose because sometimes it will look "obvious" that there is a problem, then we find out the opposite is true. Our first job is to dig up the evidence. Sometimes, it is easy to find the evidence and we just act, or we need others to help. Every now and then, I will jump on a case because I smell a sockpuppet that no one has said anything about, and I quietly go investigating that and just block them. That is more common than you might thing. This is why you really can't structure it ahead of time. Working ANI is not elegant, nor clean and tidy. It is like cutting your lawn with a machete, you just have to chop through to find what is underneath, which is often messy, rude and confusing. Once in a while, someone makes a report that is 100% accurate and has no exaggeration or bias, but that is rare. Working ANI is more art than science. It's one of the reasons I patrol it, as I believe I can cut through the BS and find the facts rather efficiently. Of course, not everyone would agree. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 20:12, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Dennis Brown you do a fine job in my view, absolutely nothing but praise. The more I get involved with ANI, the more I am in fact realizing that it is pure, utter, organized chaos. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 23:23, 19 July 2014 (UTC) You are too kind. Organized chaos is probably a good description, but most of us older admin have a pretty good bead on where things are headed. This is why proposals are rarely helpful. Over half the proposals done on ANI actually obstruct more than help. More than once I was about to take an admin action unilaterally, then someone throws up a proposal and it starts a long discussion that eventually ends with what I was going to do anyway. Had they not and admin action was simply just taken, all that drama could have been avoided. Most of the time, proposals should be made by admin when we are in a situation with no precedent or that is borderline and we aren't sure if we should block/protect, or in the rare cases where a topic ban is needed. Anyone can make them and that will never change, I'm just saying that most of the time, they are actually unhelpful. Theoretically, the purpose of admin is to just act in situations where the outcome is predictable, this way the community isn't forced to discuss every problem, and endure the drama associated with it. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 14:06, 20 July 2014 (UTC) My speedy deletion Hello, Solarra. I'm writing with regards to the speedy deletion I encountered today for a company page. Unfortunately, I am unable to contest the deletion and have since found myself with no direction on how to remedy the situation. I have chosen to speak to you with this concern, if you don't mind. First of all, I'd like to know what I can do to make the page more appropriate for Wikipedia's standards. As far as I can see, it doesn't meet the A7 criteria for deletion, as there are references demonstrating the company's importance (more than 10 million participants in video conversations through its flagship product). There are also other possible alternative references, including one from the earlier days when it grew to 1 million participants. Aside from its user base, there was sufficient proof of notability in all of the references inserted in the Awards section of the article, in which the company has received recognition from several well-known institutions for its work. I'm not exactly sure how it is even possible for my article to have been deleted under the A7 criteria. I'm also curious of what promotional language was used to merit a G11 criteria for unambiguous promotion. If you can help me with this issue, I'd be eternally grateful! Thank you very much! Mleivagomez (talk) 21:40, 19 July 2014 (UTC) The notability of the corporation was what was called into question as well as the way the article was written. From what I remember (can't view the article as it was deleted) it was extremely promotional in nature listing products, awards given to the company, etc in a very advertising tone. Of the two sources you list there, only one of them meets WP:RS the other is a vague resource site for entrepreneurs. Wikipedia requires many sources, so that articles can be written from a neutral point of view, and we can verify notability ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 22:02, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Thanks for your answer. I'm wondering... If I edit the article to try and change the language in a way that is more acceptable, and submit it again, do I risk being suspended or banned? Mleivagomez (talk) 22:08, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Not at all, however I would recommend creating the article here so that I can work with you as it gets made to make sure it doesn't get speedily deleted again or deleted using other criteria. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 22:11, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Alright! I will put what I've submitted word-for-word and work from there. Thank you so much! Mleivagomez (talk) 22:20, 19 July 2014 (UTC) I'm going to clean this up, don't take offense if I remove alot, because much of the content is very promotional, but it'll give you an idea of what we're looking for. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 22:24, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Your edits were more than welcome. I'm happy you've been working with me, but I submitted the edited document (with the references I added) and it was still deleted for unambiguous promotion. This time, I'm completely confused as what could possibly warrant this judgment. Miguel (talk) 19:12, 20 July 2014 (UTC) Disambiguation link notification for July 20 Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that you've added some links pointing to disambiguation pages. Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject. Customs and etiquette in Hawaii added a link pointing to Caucasian Lucille Godiveau added a link pointing to French It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 08:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)  Done ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 22:36, 20 July 2014 (UTC) I didnt make personal attack! Show me where I made personal attack!KevinFrom (talk) 19:00, 21 July 2014 (UTC) This was a personal attack and was reverted. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 19:03, 21 July 2014 (UTC) He deleted my question and refused to explain why when I asked him. So I had justified doubts about his objectivity. This is not a personal attack. Please revert your warning and warn him for being biased!KevinFrom (talk) 19:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC) Kevin, Solarra was 100% correct here, including the claim that if you make an edit like that again, an admin will block you. If you don't understand how your comment was offensive, then maybe Wikipedia isn't the right hobby for you. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 19:28, 21 July 2014 (UTC) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albert F. Gallun I just closed this AFD and had two notes for you. One, I appreciate the effort to calm the editor down, even though he just threw it back in your face. That is pretty much how admin spend every day, btw. I think your approach was fine, and keeping a cool head was good judgement. Second, you don't really need to add the small notes when you reformat, just use an edit summary. Keeps the words tighter and reformatting (something I do and appreciate when others do it) isn't modifying the content of their message, so no note is required outside of an edit summary. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 02:49, 21 July 2014 (UTC) Noted, I was under the impression that all reformatting of other's comments required a visible declaration as such :-) As for the first thing you mention. My job is to have patience for disgruntled people, it is somewhat second nature to be patient and explain things a third, fourth or even fifth time for me :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 19:54, 21 July 2014 (UTC) New Page Patrol Hi. Thank you for patrolling new pages. However, part of the task is also to address some issues that can be done by a quick fix - it took me only 12 seconds to backlink Deutsches Currywurst Museum and de-Orphan it. Orphan tags are probably the most ignored of all and they don't make articles look any prettier. I'm not sure either that using AWB to patrol articles is a good idea, especially as it will not enable such quick fixes. Keep up the good work at NPP and with a backlog of 6,000 articles every bit of help is desperately need, but do bear in mind that accuracy rather than speed, and some quick fixes, and tips to article creators are essential. Take care, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:04, 20 July 2014 (UTC) I would have to respectfully disagree. Tagging new articles with the orphan tag, while not exactly pretty, is necessary for overall project improvement. Sometimes I go on the backend and fix it myself, but I can't always. Every save I hit I look at the article (especially new ones), and often I heavily edit/improve them. If there is anything specific I'm doing that you think I can improve on, please feel free to let me know. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 22:31, 20 July 2014 (UTC) As the one person whose persistent agitation for improvements to NPP finally got the Foundation to create the new, New Pages Feed for us, perhaps I am somewhat more critical of patrolling than others. However, the guidelines always were that patrollers should take time to do any minor quick fixes. Once tagged for minor issues, those tags rarely get addressed and stay on the articles forever. 'Orphan' is one of them, so it's often just as quick to de-orphan an article by finding a backlink, as placing the template in the first place. Saves a lot of work, and very often such a closer scrutiny to an article brings other issues to light that may have been missed by a patroler whose sole aim is to simple 'pass' or tag for deletion. I spend a lot of time checking on the quality of patrolling and still maintain that both the quality of it is too low, and that we don't have enough patrollers who are well versed in policies and guidelines. Anything you can do to encourage such patrollers to do a better job would be much appreciated. Everything else you need to know is at WP:NPP, and if you need any help, don.t hesitate to ask me. -Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:26, 22 July 2014 (UTC) Your Guestbook Hey your guestbook is an nice one and I really like the theme. But could you please use another image (one kind of transparent image) by which your guestbook sigs can be read easily? It's just a suggestion. If you "want" then change it. Otherwise... --Pratyya (Hello!) 13:39, 20 July 2014 (UTC)  Done I removed the image, hadn't realized it was that bad when rendered using default Wikipedia settings. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 22:40, 20 July 2014 (UTC) Thanks . Also if you have time please make a visit at my guestbook. --Pratyya (Hello!) 13:19, 21 July 2014 (UTC)  Done} ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 04:25, 22 July 2014 (UTC) Alfa Romeo 149 redirects Hello. My two revisions that you undid were meant to remove a couple of unnecessary (and double) redirects that weren't worth keeping. Alas, in my inexperience I forgot that blanking the page does not delete it... You see, Alfa 149, Alfa Romeo 149 - Milano and Alfa Romeo 149 were the entirely unofficial and speculative names for an Alfa 147 successor, that nowadays we all know is the 2010 Giulietta (940); these redirects are therefore entirely useless. What's the right procedure? I believe I should have tagged them for (speedy) deletion..? Cloverleaf II (talk) 14:26, 21 July 2014 (UTC) The redirect doesn't qualify as a speedy deletion, however they can be proposed for deletion. If you need more assitance please see WP:RFD. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 17:33, 21 July 2014 (UTC) Alright, I simply fixed the double redirects. Case closed! Cloverleaf II (talk) 13:38, 22 July 2014 (UTC) Article Deletion Hi Solarra, Cool name... and I'm just frustrated with the edits and haven't had the time to pursue the appropriate fixes. Frankly, I'm just confused and frustrated so I deleted the page. You responded to the deletion and I thank you for doing so. I'd like to be recognized as having some value, but apparently I'm still in the abyss. :) It hasn't started looking back yet or maybe it has and I've become part of it. Perhaps you can rally some support and tell me exactly what to do to get the page published? Namaste, Zendor (talk) 15:05, 22 July 2014 (UTC) Zen Benefiel aka Zendor Rev del your edit Hi there, just thought I'd let you know I hid your edit summary here as it refered to the very unpleasant username that another admin had already hidden. Nothing you did wrong, just thought I'd let you know in case you wondered what happened if you look through your edit history. GedUK  11:04, 22 July 2014 (UTC) @Ged UK: No worries, there has been a whole host of nonsense overnight regarding that particular user (including against me), revdels are more than welcome. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 11:08, 22 July 2014 (UTC) I just arrived to let you know that you seem to have acquired a "fan" but it looks like you already know that. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 11:17, 22 July 2014 (UTC) He can get in line :-P Like Gogo Dodo said, it means I'm doing something right. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 11:20, 22 July 2014 (UTC) You can check what user-names starts with, using this tool. I see that you have quite a nice little fan-club: you sure are doing something right! Please keep up the good work. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 16:49, 22 July 2014 (UTC) About ur revert in Category:Hindu temples in Kosala Hi Solara, Actually I removed those categories because no such land exist present day. Kosala was an ancient land somewhere in Northern India. The pages contains wrong categories. Well no problem, we are going to start a discussion regarding this in India project.--Shiti (talk) 15:10, 19 July 2014 (UTC) If you refer to this edit than yes I reverted it as it blanked the page. While that may be true regarding Kosala, blanking pages is generally frowned upon and can be considered vandalism. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 18:13, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Well, in that case what should be the proper way to delete such wrong categories/wrong information ?--Shiti (talk) 04:41, 20 July 2014 (UTC) See WP:CFD ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 06:18, 20 July 2014 (UTC) Thanks. --Shiti (talk) 17:48, 22 July 2014 (UTC) A cup of tea for you! For your to calm after all the mess Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 11:14, 22 July 2014 (UTC) I am always calm :-) None of the nonsense phased me at all. In fact the futility of the user's efforts is quite humorous. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 18:39, 22 July 2014 (UTC) A barnstar for you! The Barnstar of Good Humor! Hello Solarra.Recently you have signed my guestbook! Thank you very much for signing my guestbook. Cheers.--Pratyya (Hello!) 14:07, 22 July 2014 (UTC) Always :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 18:39, 22 July 2014 (UTC) July 2014 Hello, I'm BracketBot. I have automatically detected that your edit to Hatula may have broken the syntax by modifying 2 "{}"s. If you have, don't worry: just edit the page again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on my operator's talk page. List of unpaired brackets remaining on the page: {{ancient site It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, BracketBot (talk) 00:18, 23 July 2014 (UTC)  Not done False Alarm ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 00:35, 23 July 2014 (UTC) Please comment on Talk:United Kingdom local elections, 2015 Greetings! You have been randomly selected to receive an invitation to participate in the request for comment on Talk:United Kingdom local elections, 2015. Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! If in doubt, please see suggestions for responding. If you do not wish to receive these types of notices, please remove your name from Wikipedia:Feedback request service. — Legobot (talk) 00:06, 25 July 2014 (UTC) AN3 I can understand why you may have thought otherwise, but this edit wasn't vandalism. I didn't bother restoring it because it didn't add much, but just to let you know.--Bbb23 (talk) 05:17, 26 July 2014 (UTC) Yea that looked like clear vandalism to me.  :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 05:19, 26 July 2014 (UTC) I removed your warning from the user's talk page. The whole thing at the Ferguson article was a mess. It's so pink here. --Bbb23 (talk) 05:21, 26 July 2014 (UTC) @Bbb23: Yea I like pink if you didn't notice :-P As for the revert, that looked like clear vandalism to me, random text about a baby's name spaced 5 breaks down with no signature. I shall defer to your judgement :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 05:19, 26 July 2014 (UTC) Bbb don't know nothing 'bout no baby names. Yes, pink it is--and also reeeeally small (the font). I guess it doesn't matter so much if you're only 27 and have young, sharp eyes. Bbb, do you remember 27? Drmies (talk) 03:53, 28 July 2014 (UTC) No, I only got as far as 23.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:56, 29 July 2014 (UTC) Good luck! I just noticed that a certain RfA I've had watchlisted has finally turned blue :D I'll be adding my comment later tonight, but I wanted to wish you the absolute best of luck now! Hopefully its not too painful ;) Ishdarian 14:23, 29 July 2014 (UTC) I just popped by to wish you luck too. I am sorry to be unable to support you this time round, but I am very impressed by your open and reflective approach. When you have filled the gaps in experience, I look forward to supporting you a future RFA. Best wishes, --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:20, 29 July 2014 (UTC) @BrownHairedGirl: I don't take it personally in the least bit, this is my RFA, this is for me to prove to the community that I am trustworthy to have the tools, per the multitude asking above, I am willing to undergo that hellfire to prove that trust. Some folks want to see a bit more content creation than I have, I've been working on that, but honestly it isn't my forte. I love going in, helping new users create content, and working with them to make new articles, I've done it over a dozen times and the joys never end when I see the completed work, but creating stuff from scratch myself has always been difficult for me, even if I understand the underlying policy myself. Also, regarding my signature, this was the first time in posting all over ANI, AN3, etc that someone has pointed out that it was an issue, from what I understand, super and sub scripts are fine as long as utilized correctly. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ߷ ♀ Contribs ♀ 22:27, 29 July 2014 (UTC) Blushing Re this comment: I'm flattered! Good luck with the mop. I can think of few editors I'd more trust with it. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:20, 30 July 2014 (UTC) It's the truth :-) I learned alot from the <3 ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ♀ Contribs ♀ 16:00, 30 July 2014 (UTC) Please comment on Talk:Arranged marriage Greetings! You have been randomly selected to receive an invitation to participate in the request for comment on Talk:Arranged marriage. Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! If in doubt, please see suggestions for responding. If you do not wish to receive these types of notices, please remove your name from Wikipedia:Feedback request service. — Legobot (talk) 00:02, 31 July 2014 (UTC) "Clean up"?? Kindly explain why you feel "clean up" was necessary on Sea Mither? I would really appreciate knowing in what way you feel you have "improved" the article? Thanks. SagaciousPhil - Chat 21:02, 29 July 2014 (UTC) Also, if you feel there is a requirement for my references to be fixed kindly justify your reasons - I am waiting with baited breath for your expert advice - just so I don't make errors with formatting references in future. SagaciousPhil - Chat 21:14, 29 July 2014 (UTC) Honestly, I was trying to help out here. I saw a bit of white-space I felt could be improved upon, generally I wouldn't make an edit using AWB to do that (I'd do it manually), but I didn't see the harm here. If I disrupted you or offended you in any way I apologize. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ߷ ♀ Contribs ♀ 21:32, 29 July 2014 (UTC) Perhaps a bit more care and thought would be advantageous? I can assure you I am fully aware of how to correctly format references. Removing white space is purely an attempt to increase your edit count, especially when using AWB, and can hardly be considered as 'improving' by any stretch of the imagination and yes, I do consider it to be disruptive and insulting for you to infer you need to 'improve' my references. SagaciousPhil - Chat 21:47, 29 July 2014 (UTC) Again my apologies, it had nothing to do with edit count, promise, simply an attempt to help. I have made similar edits manually as well, it's all done in trying to help folks out. If there is any other way I can improve feel free to point it out, I'm human and always willing to find ways to improve my actions here. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ߷ ♀ Contribs ♀ 21:52, 29 July 2014 (UTC) So, tell me, in what way do you think your edits 'helped' and/or 'improved' either the article or my editing as you are claiming here? If my editing skills, in your opinion, require help or improvement, please tell me how or what errors you consider I am guilty of. SagaciousPhil - Chat 22:00, 29 July 2014 (UTC) With this edit I removed a double spacing issue with one of the citations and added a couple line breaks, things I usually do when on new article patrol. Doing so was in no way a statement on your knowledge, ability, or aptitude nor a judgement on the article as a whole. In fact, I think the work you are doing is fantastic, personally I love mythology and more stuff to read on the subject is more than welcome :-) If this is an area you think I can improve on, I am more than glad to oblige. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ߷ ♀ Contribs ♀ 22:17, 29 July 2014 (UTC) My apologies, Solarra, you took the brunt of my fury/frustration of dealing with some TFWs coupled with ongoing RL drama taking place in the background. My comments here were uncalled for and inappropriate. Sorry. SagaciousPhil - Chat 07:34, 30 July 2014 (UTC) SagaciousPhil It is quite alright, I am thankful on getting to meet you. :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ♀ Contribs ♀ 00:34, 31 July 2014 (UTC) Just curious はいさい Solarra! I was just bored and poking around Wikipedia, and I found this. For a non-admin you sure do a lot of admin things, and I'm just puzzled that you, a long-established and hard-working editor, aren't an admin already. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 22:53, 28 July 2014 (UTC) @Sturmgewehr88: Most of the stuff I do is clerk type stuff (e.g.). Yunshui is coaching me towards an RFA but until I am absolutely confident in my knowledge on as many Wikipedia policies as possible and am confident that the community wishes it I haven't really sought it. If enough people asked me, I'd be willing to go through the process but until then I am content to continue to do clerk stuff and stuff I've been doing you don't need the mop for. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 23:17, 28 July 2014 (UTC) Ah I understand. Well you seem like admin material to me (although I'm probably not qualified to judge), so I wish you good luck! Cheers~ ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 23:21, 28 July 2014 (UTC) For what it's worth, I've had Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Solarra watchlisted for a while. You'd definitely make a good admin.—LucasThoms 23:33, 28 July 2014 (UTC) Don't worry about knowing all the policies--as long as you know the ones you usually work with or cite. If you get asked about one you can always take the time to look them up--I hear that Wikipedia is a good source for that. Besides being a popularity contest, of course, RfA is mostly about determining whether someone has experience, a lack of assholishness, a clean block log or the explanation for a not-so clean one, but most of all judgment, common sense, a collaborative spirit. I would certainly support you, though I might die before that notoriously slow Yunshui ever gets to writing up a nomination. Drmies (talk) 03:29, 29 July 2014 (UTC) Users will still find an excuse to bitch about something. She has a clean block log. She's got more than enough edits. She's active at admin boards and is civil. Why would anyone vote for her?--Bbb23 (talk) 05:01, 29 July 2014 (UTC) Well, looks like we'd better step up our game Solarra - I'm obviously not the only one who'd like to see you wielding a mop in anger, and I don't think I could stand to have Drmies death on my conscience. Would you like to wait until your current GA project is off the ground, or shall I get straight on with the nomination? You don't have to transclude it until you feel you're ready, of course. "Notoriously slow", indeed! I'm guessing Drmies has never seen me eating pancakes... Yunshui 雲水 07:04, 29 July 2014 (UTC) Drmies,Bbb23,Yunshui, Lucas Thoms, Sturmgewehr88 Since it appears quite obvious the support is there for me going through the furnace that is RFA, I'll go ahead and do it. If folks want to go ahead and build the nom, I'll fill in all of the requisite questions, etc. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 09:43, 29 July 2014 (UTC) You might like to try clicking on the link in Lucas Thoms' message above now... If you want some co-noms, I'm sure you know who to ask! Yunshui 雲水 09:57, 29 July 2014 (UTC)  Done I answered the questions on the RFA and accepted the nom. I am not going to directly ask, but if someone wishes to co-nom, feel free to do so. I am done with my part so it can be transcluded whenever folks feel they are ready to do so. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 10:40, 29 July 2014 (UTC) Haha I feel accomplished for tipping the first domino for you Solarra. Surely your nomination will go through! ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 11:10, 29 July 2014 (UTC) How about it, Drmies? Fancy throwing your hat into the ring as well? Yunshui 雲水 12:16, 29 July 2014 (UTC) Which hat? Mrs. Drmies was going to order me one (and a Miles Davis CD) but she never did. I might could throw my dandruff in the ring--give me a few minutes. Drmies (talk) 14:50, 29 July 2014 (UTC) YGM. Drmies (talk) 14:55, 29 July 2014 (UTC) @Drmies: Answered. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 16:24, 29 July 2014 (UTC) @Drmies: or Yunshui if one of you guys wants to transcribe it, I'm done with it and ready for it to go live. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 17:24, 29 July 2014 (UTC) Yunshui needs the exercise more than I do. Also, I don't know how to do it. Good luck! Drmies (talk) 17:33, 29 July 2014 (UTC) @Drmies: I think I got it, I'm sure a clerk will scold me if I didn't. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 17:57, 29 July 2014 (UTC) Dear Solarra, I am very sorry this did not go the way we had hoped it would. I respect your decision, and I am still in your camp. I'll read over the entire thing soon and will, no doubt, pretend to have words of wisdom. In the meantime, thank you for running that gauntlet and for doing it in style. Really, I respect you immensely, and try to think of adminship as No Big Deal, at least for now. All the best, Drmies (talk) 22:17, 31 July 2014 (UTC) @Drmies: It's quite alright, I respect the oppose folks and it gives me a direction to grow in. Let me work on the concerns some folks had and resubmit in a few months. I looked over many past RFAs and I am certainly not the first prospective admin to fail her first attempt :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ♀ Contribs ♀ 01:58, 1 August 2014 (UTC) Your RfA After thinking for almost two days I came to the conclusion that I can trust you with the tools. But at the same moment I saw that you withdrew the nomination, I can't add my !vote. Your reply to my questions were good and you're on the right way. Just ping me the next time you run for adminship, since I'm going to cast the first !vote. Jim Carter (from public cyber) 18:00, 31 July 2014 (UTC) Solarra, as the first opposer there, I'd like to say that I hope you haven't been discouraged by the process, as I'm sure I'm not alone in appreciating your work round here. The result of AFD being for life is that a lot of us unfortunately have to err on the side of caution. The fact that you ended in a bureaucrat discretion range despite only 5 months of editing (usually a no-no for most people) is testament to your strengths and all you really need is a little bit more polishing of the deletion tagging. I know you'll take on board what was said in the opposes and I really hope you give it a second go early next year, when I'd hope to support you. Valenciano (talk) 19:00, 31 July 2014 (UTC) "The result of AFD being for life"... I presume you mean RfA? G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 19:11, 31 July 2014 (UTC) Duh! I'm stupid like that :) Yeah, RFA was what I meant. Valenciano (talk) 20:12, 31 July 2014 (UTC) @Valenciano: Thank you immensely for your constructive criticism, it gives me a direction to grow and flourish in over the next few months. If you don't mind, put this page on your watchlist and continue to give me constructive criticism :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ♀ Contribs ♀ 02:03, 1 August 2014 (UTC) Here's to next time Probably the best move to make. You weren't going to learn any more from it, and at best it was going to be a bureaucrat vote rather than something clear cut. Anyway. If you want to know more about CSD, just ask me. Quite a lot of it isn't as obvious as it seems. I'm not saying I know it all, but it's where I work. While I've been called a lot of things (some of which I can actually prove I'm not...), I've not had much in the way of official pillorying. Keep an eye on WT:CSD which is where a lot of interesting talk and recrimination goes on. Sometimes. Often, it's just boring... Quite a few of the RfA voters are hidebound by their own particular bugbears, and others deal in statistics. I go by question answers and overall impression. Peridon (talk) 18:55, 31 July 2014 (UTC) @Peridon: if you would be kind enough to keep this page on your watchlist and give me ongoing feedback, I would be extremely grateful. Thank you for your kind wishes :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ♀ Contribs ♀ 02:14, 1 August 2014 (UTC) Comfort food Sorry your RfD was not successful. Meanwhile keep up the good work! — Keithbob • Talk • 20:45, 31 July 2014 (UTC) Thank you kindly :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ♀ Contribs ♀ 02:14, 1 August 2014 (UTC) A bowl of strawberries for you! Sorry to see your RFA being unsuccessful, It's a shame but sadly these things happen to the best of people!, Keep up the great work and good luck for future RFAs :) Regards, –Davey2010 • (talk) 21:05, 31 July 2014 (UTC) Thank you, look for me again in a few months :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ♀ Contribs ♀ 02:14, 1 August 2014 (UTC) You're welcome :) - Well If you ever go for it again you'd get my 100% support :) Regards, –Davey2010 • (talk) 02:18, 1 August 2014 (UTC) Professors et al Beware of them. A full prof almost always passes A7. Significant. An Assistant Prof is far less so, and unless there is a mass of support is fairly safe to A7. A7 depends on the lack of a claim of significance. A credible claim, mind. Jimmy Bloggs (born 2000) is NOT credibly Madonna's new fiancé and does not run a multi-million dollar/pound/euro business. No matter what his Facebook page says. First, Madonna wouldn't sink her career for a 14 year old. Second, Jimmy is unlikely to even be running a business at 14, let alone one that has a turnover of a million baht, never mind dollars. That's easy to spot. Academic note is tricky, and there is much argument amongst Wikipedians. If not sure, use prod or AfD. If no-one contests the prod in time, it probably wasn't worth keeping. If the author just happens to have been on a long term holiday (or in jail), it can be restored. AfD gives the factions a chance to do battle and gives a consensus. Or not. 'No consensus' can come back for another trial later if the article's not improved. I'm not going to admit to taking things to AfD to stir up action, but I have been accused of it. (It works....) Having said that a full prof passes A7, they too can be taken to prod or AfD if the content doesn't show REAL notability. Two different standards and purposes. CSD is a quick junk shift. Theoretically bright line. Yea or Nay. Some of the loudest voices at CSD talk want to remove all shades of grey from consideration. They are never seen tagging, by me at least, and have high ideals. Take note of DGG. He's got high ideals and would prefer to keep things, but realises that there are days when you just simply have to amputate, and that use of judgement is unavoidable. He tags things, too. Peridon (talk) 19:49, 1 August 2014 (UTC) Honestly, my Achilles heel when it comes to CSD has been India related topics (as you can see from my CSD log. DGG made a very good point, I have to ask myself, "What is the likelihood of someone looking this subject up on Wikipedia?" Especially with India topics (a country I frankly know little about aside from its basic political structure), "Does this make a credible claim at notability?" I learned much from the process, and look forward to continuing to grow and learn :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ • T ♀ C 02:12, 2 August 2014 (UTC) Peridon, I do not consider an assistant professor safe for A7. True, they are almost never notable, but it is nonetheless a genuine good-faith claim to importance, and needs investigation. Use Prod. Someone whose highest accomplishment is being a college student, that's A7 territory. Analogously, for authors, having a book published by a regular trade or academic publisher is a claim to importance--although it very often does not amount to notability. Again, it needs investigation. But publishing a self-published or vanity press book, nobody rational would (I hope ) consider this suitable for an encyclopedia, and I use A7 here. Similarly being a football player in college is I think a claim to importance, though very few of them are considered notable. Again, the record needs to be examined. Being on a high school football team, that's A7. Yes indeed, our usual criteria do not work well for India. There are very few available sources, so we tend to rely on the major Indian newspapers. But unfortunately even the two most reputable, Times of India and The Hindu are known to publish press releases without any particular discrimination, and in some entertainment fields, to require payment. For India before Independence, or in the 19th century, things are even murkier. The relevant guideline is WP:Cultural Bias, which in this context means, giving the subject the benefit of the doubt. In dubious cases use Prod. That's why we have it. In addition to the chance of the contributor seeing it and doing something, one or two of us do check prod, and remove things that we think might not belong or that are worth afd. DGG ( talk ) 03:55, 2 August 2014 (UTC) RFA Hi Solarra. Hope you won't be upset by your RFA. Many admins also failed on their first try. Continue and work hard and I'm sure you will pass one day. Best of luck! Jianhui67 T★C 00:42, 1 August 2014 (UTC) @Jianhui67: I'd be lying if I wasn't disappointed, but I recognize this as a chance to grow as an editor. My goal over the next few months is to earn the support from those who opposed. :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ♀ Contribs ♀ 02:28, 1 August 2014 (UTC) As I've said to some others whom I've initially opposed, I am eager to answer questions or offer help so you can improve in the areas I discussed. My talk p., is the best place to ask. DGG ( talk ) 02:34, 1 August 2014 (UTC) Withdrawing was something that I am sure was not an easy choice, but I hope to see you run again.--Mark Miller (talk) 02:39, 1 August 2014 (UTC) @DGG: I was going to ask exactly that. Your explanation of WP:GNG and WP:V were enlightening to say the least. First, if you could watchlist this I'd be much obliged. Someone who is active and experienced in deletion as you are is an ideal person to pounce on me and give me feedback when I improperly tag something. Second, I want to dive into WP:DRV, from what I understand, it is the advance course of AFD, and the things I learned there molded into a more solid understanding of content policies. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ♀ Contribs ♀ 02:40, 1 August 2014 (UTC) I'll echo those above me; looking forward to seeing your name on the RfX report again! StringTheory11 (t • c) 02:44, 1 August 2014 (UTC) Hi Solarra, like the rest I'm sorry that RfA didn't work out this time around. I was serious in my support when I said I was glad to see more people in the profession looking to become admins, and I hope you won't let this setback discourage you. I know one of the comments I saw (and was unsurprised to see) was to suggest more content creation. Have you considered doing DYK? Speaking as someone with a very similar editorial background to yours (lots of vandal fighting, at least in the distant past), I found DYK pretty easy to break into. Especially if you care to write on law topics... there's always room for more. It's not GA/FA (I still haven't figured those out, though I am trying to get there), but it's content creation. Anyhow, best of luck next time around. —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 16:13, 1 August 2014 (UTC) @Mendaliv: right now I'm working on eliminating Supreme Court case redlinks. As there are dozens of them, it is going to take me a bit of time to fully tackle. WP:DYK is a good idea, I'll look into it :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ • T ♀ C 02:06, 2 August 2014 (UTC) Hi Solarra, I was one of the early opposers, and as the discussion continued I found that it offered many more reasons to oppose for now. The good news is that all those things seem seem fixable, and the exceptionally gracious way in which you withdrew your nomination reinforces my faith that you have the right temperament and that you will fix these things. Best wishes for the future, and do let me know if I can help you on your path to gaining more of the relevant experience. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:21, 1 August 2014 (UTC) @BrownHairedGirl: Thank you kindly! The best support I can use at this time, is to keep an eye on the articles I create User:Solarra/Articles. Let me know if I doof something up :-P ♥ Solarra ♥ • T ♀ C 02:06, 2 August 2014 (UTC) Haha! The one thing that's guaranteed about article creation is that if it gets beyond a trivial size, it will almost certainly contain something that needs fixing. And the good news is that fixes aren't usually hard, and are often fun :) May I echo the suggestion above of trying DYK? The quality of review there is variable, but it is much a more lightweight process than WP:GA (let alone FA), and usually quite friendly. The rewards aren't just in getting your work on the front page; there is the reward of seeing that your work has met a quality threshold, and of learning how to get there without too much intervention. The quid-pro-quo system of reviews is also a very valuable learning experience; there is nothing like evaluating someone else's article as a way to learn how to evaluate your own work. I probably won't find the time to follow your creations list, because I already have far too many things to follow ... but if there is anything specific I can help with, feel free to ping me or leave me a message. Good luck! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:36, 2 August 2014 (UTC) I can't emphasise article creation strongly enough - it helps one appreciate the work that goes into them. Am happy to have a look-over if needed. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:58, 3 August 2014 (UTC) Had thought that this RFA would be successful, I didn't knew that content creation was going to be highlighted as much. There are some great admins like Dougweller, Magioladitis and more, they didn't had many articles during the time they had successful RFA. Also I disagreed a bit with automated edits, making edits with Huggle is not easy and those edits are helpful for encyclopedia. There was a good suggestion that you should be active for more months. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 19:05, 3 August 2014 (UTC) That's the thing - trying to predict the what opposers will say and then see what you can do beforehand...Lack of content creation often comes up in RfAs.Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:07, 3 August 2014 (UTC) Media Viewer RfC draft principles & findings Hello. This is a courtesy note that the draft findings and principles in the Media Viewer RfC case have now been posted. The drafters of the proposed decision anticipate a final version of the PD will be posted after 11 August. You are welcome to give feedback on the workshop page. For the Committee, Lord Roem ~ (talk) 02:43, 4 August 2014 (UTC) Please comment on Talk:Donald Trump Greetings! You have been randomly selected to receive an invitation to participate in the request for comment on Talk:Donald Trump. Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! If in doubt, please see suggestions for responding. If you do not wish to receive these types of notices, please remove your name from Wikipedia:Feedback request service. — Legobot (talk) 00:03, 5 August 2014 (UTC) Inform Hi, This is just to inform you that Daniel R. Gernatt, Jr. has been nominated by another editor for deletion. Daniellagreen (talk) (cont) 17:45, 5 August 2014 (UTC) I'm sorry I had to argue deletion there, but for that specific article I couldn't find a policy or guideline to keep it, as hard as I tried :( ♥ Solarra ♥ • T ♀ C 04:45, 8 August 2014 (UTC) Re-creations mid-deletion review Solarra, since you noticed that Ovin was re-created while under deletion review, it would probably be a good idea notify the re-creator (me) of the deletion review. There apparently is no system in place to notify editors about a deletion review before they re-create an article. See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 129#Include note about deletion reviews in the deletion log. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:51, 3 August 2014 (UTC) @Oiyarbepsy: Apologies for the late reply, things are quite hectic here. I didn't notify you because as the DRV was pointing towards restoration of the redirect. If the consensus had been pointing the other way, I certainly would have pinged you to let you know about it :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ • T ♀ C 04:54, 8 August 2014 (UTC) Supreme Court Cases Hi Solarra. I've noticed that you've started writing articles on Supreme Court cases, which I think is a fascinating topic: I've written one myself, Gabelli v. SEC. One thing though: in the context of SCOTUS cases, per curiam refers only to unsigned opinions, and the opinion of the Court will explicitly designate it thus (example:[1]). If a specific justice delivers the opinion, it's not per curiam. Thanks, Altamel (talk) 17:55, 2 August 2014 (UTC) Thank you, and I know, honestly it's a template learning issue. I'll go back and fix it :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ • T ♀ C 19:08, 2 August 2014 (UTC) Hi, Solarra, some constructive advice. First, you're not being careful when you create these articles. There are obvious errors (like redlinks) that you should catch before going on to the next one. Second, I don't know if other articles do this, but the abbreviations for district and circuit courts you're using in the infobox are ugly. Why would anyway use "Ckt" for circuit? Maybe Cir., but it's just as easy, for example to say "Ninth Circuit" or whatever circuit. Finally, although I haven't seen this in your stubs, I have seen it in some of your comments. The word "judgment" is spelled without an "e" in America. The other spelling is British. As an American lawyer, I'm surprised you'd want to spell it the British way unless you're just trying to be culturally diverse. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 20:33, 2 August 2014 (UTC) There's a definite system for court abbreviations—I expect you've learned the Bluebook citation format, Solarra. I tried looking at it once, and I could make neither head nor tail of it, but it's probably the best style out there. Yeah, the weird thing about the SCOTUS infobox is no matter what value you designate for the parameter |per curiam=, "yes" or "no", it still makes per curiam show up. I already fixed that issue in the articles I found. Check out United States v. Lara, it's a featured SCOTUS case page. GregJackP wrote that one; it's too bad he retired in February. Altamel (talk) 01:53, 3 August 2014 (UTC) Solarra should be familiar with Bluebook; most American lawyers are. I don't create case articles myself, so I haven't looked at any guidance that might be out there. In other words, just like in so many things, Wikipedia doesn't always follow other styles - it often has its own. The case you mention, for example, doesn't follow Bluebook style to the letter, although it hews fairly closely to it. One of the cited cases in the primary history is very odd as it puts in both 8th Cir. and the district court in the same parenthetical. I assume that's a mistake but I'm not going to alter it. For a featured article it has a lot of language quirks and errors - probably written by a lawyer or lawyers. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 03:23, 3 August 2014 (UTC) @Bbb23: I am familiar with it, I just see a myriad of formatting techniques when it comes to court cases in general, not just SCOTUS cases. I'm trying to strive for readability to the layman when it comes to the background of each case, but it is an ongoing learning process. I want the content I create to be as accessible as possible :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ • T ♀ C 04:51, 8 August 2014 (UTC) You're back. Believe it or not, I missed you. One other piece of advice on this subject, and then I'll shut up. I think it would be better to write one good article about a case rather than writing a bunch of stubs about a bunch of cases. Quality over quantity. The problem with stubs at Wikipedia is often no one does anything subsequently to improve them; they just sit like that. Regards.--Bbb23 (talk) 05:03, 8 August 2014 (UTC) @Bbb23: Like I've said a couple of places, been very busy the last week or so (especially with this saying hello). I plan to do 1-2 GA on a major SCOTUS case or two over the next 6 months, but I also think it is important to get the information on the more minor cases out there as well (there are SO MANY redlinks!). Anyways, I'm going to have to find a balance between the two because both are equally important. Btw I missed you guys too :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ • T ♀ C 05:09, 8 August 2014 (UTC) Guestbook Barnstar Hi there. I signed your guestbook and didn't get a barnstar. Is it for people who want it or request it? I would love to add your barnstar to my userpage! Thanks. A2 05:54, 8 August 2014 (UTC)  Done I haven't even looked at my guestbook in nearly a month :-P Sorry! ♥ Solarra ♥ • T ♀ C 05:57, 8 August 2014 (UTC) Yeah no problem. I appreciate it. A2 19:23, 8 August 2014 (UTC) Please comment on Talk:Treats! Greetings! 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