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multiple in-depth coverage in reliable sources

1961 - 1965: Somali Ambassador accredited in Italy and the Vatican as well as to the European Economic Community

could the links in Italy and European economic community be considered as reliable sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmedsayed6311 (talk • contribs) 08:23, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

You took existing links away someone else added to the page, one of which happened to have been of the event I organise, all I did was update the outdated link and info with the link, as the webaddress changed and we nolonger have a forum. Now you took it away completely which is quite frankly very rude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BantonPhoenix (talk • contribs) 21:29, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

It matters not who put the external link up, it is advertising your event and has no place in a Wikipedia article, you are welcome to argue your case on the article's talk page. Theroadislong (talk) 06:43, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

My Article

Dear The road is long,

Hi, thank you for your message. as I know you reviewed and declined my article. Could you please kindly let me know what is the specific problem with my article? I dont know what is the problem. I just have added some sources and need time to add more. But if I know what is the problem, will do my best for the rest of it.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daveawe (talk • contribs) 08:39, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Daveawe Please see WP:REFB for help with formatting sources, but be aware that YouTube and Facebook are not reliable sources and will need to be replaced. Theroadislong (talk) 08:47, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi, as advised I have removed the link to the You Tube videos. What should I do next to submit the article/page for review. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmedsayed6311 (talk • contribs) 09:43, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

You will need to find multiple in-depth coverage in reliable sources, you have none at the moment. Theroadislong (talk) 09:46, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. The link does not work. could you please check and resend it for me? For a musician, a video or audio of his work is the best source to introduce him/her by his job and not just by words. I wonder why you said it is not reliable. I assume that a youtube video as a vlog or etc might not be reliable. but Music or Film or any other media that introduce an artist is the best way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daveawe (talk • contribs) 07:42, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Kevin P. Thompson notability

Dear Theroadislong, I have removed external links from the article. Sorry for the blunder. I would like to add why I think this person is justified for a wikipedia page. He is a scientist/engineer who has contributed significantly in the development of modern technology. This is verified by a third party, the Optical Society. This is one of the largest societies for optics in the world which hosts many conferences, is responsible for scientific publications and the advancement of the field in general. In 2017 they established an award in honor of the contributions of the subject of the article. Thank you for your consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vasilis Theofylaktopoulos (talk • contribs) 16:47, 13 August 2019 (UTC) Furthermore, he is a recipient of an award himself. I think he should be qualified under notability academics 2.The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level. Vasilis Theofylaktopoulos (talk) 13:07, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Draft:AWA Studios

Greetings. I write you because I may need your help to improve this draft even better. I need more advise or could let you write on it. I await your answer. F. E. Puricelli (talk) 13:32, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

You say in the draft "an independent comic book publisher founded on October 2019" this might be WP:TOOSOON for a Wikipedia article. Theroadislong (talk) 14:12, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

multiple in-depth coverage in reliable sources

I have added some links to the references tag as reliable sources links. If it is ok, how will I be able to submit it for final publication.. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmedsayed6311 (talk • contribs) 04:59, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Those links don't appear to be independent reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 14:25, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

multiple in-depth coverage in reliable sources

Thank you for your feedback "Those links don't appear to be independent"

Would these sources not be considered as "reliable"? 1) The presidency of the Italian republic web portal. 2) Official Somali Government News Agency website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmedsayed6311 (talk • contribs) 01:28, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Ahmedsayed6311 Yes they are reliable, but they are primary sources, so not independent. Theroadislong (talk) 07:53, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

I am truly confused

I have seen many other person like myself showing a Wikipedia page written in the same way I am trying to write mine. There are many examples out there. This is truly confusing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Th.Migeotte (talk • contribs) 12:09, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Th.Migeotte As it says on your talk page "Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged" your draft has no reliable independent sources. If you are notable someone else will write your article, please wait until they do. Theroadislong (talk) 12:24, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes they are reliable, but they are primary sources, so not independent

Hi, The line between these different sources has become a bit blurred for me. Found this on Wikipedia:

To verify that a subject is important, only a source that is independent of the subject can provide a reliable evaluation (I believe that the references I provided can indeed be categorized as "only a source that is independent of the subject"). The article continues.. A source too close to the subject will always believe that the subject is important enough to warrant detailed coverage, and relying exclusively upon this source will present a conflict of interest and a threat to a neutral encyclopedia.

Much as I would like to continue with this project, I think I have come up against a dead end. Please let me know if with the info. I have provided the page is ready to be published. Thank you very much for your advice and believe me I would hate to abandon this project and look forward to your input... Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmedsayed6311 (talk • contribs) 02:51, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Josha Stradowski

I am not the editor that created that page, but I tried to clean it up a bit and added a secondary source (major Dutch news site Nu.nl). I also linked to the existing wiki pages of some of the other works by the actor. Can you have a look to see if it addresses your concerns? Hg03u (talk) 22:44, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Revised Qualifacts Draft

Hello, I believe I've revised the Qualifacts draft to read less like an advertisement. I've also added a source from Inc. 5000 that helps to show the company's credibility. Would you mind giving the draft another look? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Qualifacts

@Theroadislong could you give this draft a look again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Judahpedia13 (talk • contribs) 14:38, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Request on 14:24:20, 21 August 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Shailz


Hi Theroadislong, This was my first wiki page ever, and it got rejected...I am depressed (kidding). But please explain what was the reason, I have added few references and am resubmitting the article. Please check if it works now

Shailz (talk) 14:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Inserted 3rd party refs

Hi I dug up a bunch of 3rd party refs hope this meets the requirement. Thanks for the explanation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Andrew_Evans_(Travel_Writer) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biologyfishman (talk • contribs) 16:50, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Declined Submission

Hi, I would like to get more details about the decline of the post. Can you provide me some details? see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sintratec — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sintratec (talk • contribs) 10:14, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Sintratec Firstly you have what we call a conflict of interest and will need to change your username. The draft is stuffed full of marketing trumpery, for example " to enable the students and scientists of today for the requirements of tomorrow" "Sintratec's laser sintering technology allows the production of complex and freeform objects which meet demanding part resolution, robustness and temperature requirements." "Many hundreds of professional Sintratec machines are in operation around the world in various industries," 'The step-by-step guidance and the user-friendly design allows an easy handling of 3D-files and the print settings." and none of the awards are notable. Theroadislong (talk) 10:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes they are reliable, but they are primary sources, so not independent

Hi, I would appreciate your feedback if the page is ready for publishing or not? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmedsayed6311 (talk • contribs) 01:15, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Barnstar

The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
For all the backstage work David notMD (talk) 17:04, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

You have reviewed the article on the Author Arnaud Segla Saying:

"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia."

I want to know how many additional references must be included since the external links coming with the page created are already sample of content published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent and talk of the subject.

Considering these links is it possible to validate the publication as it is?

Thanks in advance

Arnaud Ahmed Segla (talk) 18:48, 24 August 2019 (UTC)Arnaud Ahmed Segla

/* Roy Franks */

Hello, I don't know if you remember reviewing an article iv'e written, but if you do could i get a little more info on the reason for rejection? I want to edit it to the liking and acceptance of others, but unfortunately i'm not sure on the major issue, i know at first the source was not the best so i fixed that with a better source. I am trying to get a job as a writer and am trying to get public articles as references. im very new to wiki, but so far my work is rejected and i have trouble figuring out why. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Americanretail (talk • contribs) 19:33, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Americanretail I'm afraid your topic Draft:Roy Franks is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 10:18, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dubblestandart

Hi Robert,

this is Paul who meanwhile is very desperate concerning the article for our band. I really did a lot of research and work to put relevant data together. The band has been in the Austrian Hitparade way back in the 90s and it was not possible to get any data from the Austrian Broadcasting Society so far.But the main point( & sorry again for bugging u with this but I live now in the anxiety that the whole article and the work therefor will get lost) is the amount of activities, collaborations, releases this band has done in the last 30 years of their existence. I very much respect the standards u have but I would love you to take another minute and run through our story and the long reference and external link list to understand why I believe we qualify. Which means I also would love to see u respecting our work of being a considerable international musical group that has a certain amount of relevance for their worldwide communities. To sum up : Dubblestandart is an internationally known brand for innovative dub reggae music since 1989. We were the first band from Austria to play a legendary Summerstage show in Central Park New York City and first worked with Lee Perry in 1991. We produced a full length album with Lee Perry, Ariup from the Slits and film director David Lynch. We have 16th full length albums in the market, a great many of them is distributed and available online and physically on all 5 continents. We worked as a backing band, produced, remixed for Lee Perry, Dillinger, Ken Boothe, Marica Griffiths, Supermax, Sly & Robbie and a great many of internationally legendary musicians. We are signed since almost 2 decades to the internationally well known German Dub label www.echobeach.de We were signed to Gig Records by Marcus Spiegel who invented FALCO, one of the biggest world wide stars that came out of Austria. Our work connected us to Subatomic Sound System from New York City who build their entire career on the material we provided from the Return From Planet Dub production with Lee Perry in 2008. We also brought Subatomic Sound System from the US to Shows in India, Europe, Canada ao. WE are part of an world wide network were we are respected and appreciated and nobody questions our status quo. Please understand that its not always a matter of attitude why bands like us want to get recognition but an insane amount of work behind us and if commercial success remains tricky the artistical success is something we can relate to, as our followers will, appreciating our listing on Wikipedia worldwide. You are important to us.

Please make it happen!!

Thanx a lot for reviewing again! sincerely Paul

ps: the reference and external link sections are exactly like on many other Wikipedia articles... if its not allowed to use the Wikipedia link in German language as a reference( which I find a bit awkward) I can simply remove it. I listed many references of independent sources that mention Dubblestandart. To verify those articles I provided as not notable, I don't know what to say....

Your reference and external link sections are NOT exactly like on many other Wikipedia articles. You clearly haven't read WP:REFB yet despite repeated requests, your sources need to relate to the content, each statement of fact requires a reference. Please also read WP:BAND for how to establish notability of a band. Theroadislong (talk) 12:15, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Eva_Dichand

Hi There,

We were wondering why our submission of the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Eva_Dichand was rejected and what needs to be changed in order for the submission process to be successful.

Please let us know what we should change/modify/correct so we can successfully submit this article. :) Thanks! (Heute marko (talk) 08:32, 26 August 2019 (UTC))


EDIT: We made the changes to the Resources List and deleted the Wikipage (circular link) and another non-descriptive or helpful citation. We are now resubmitting. (Heute marko (talk) 14:56, 26 August 2019 (UTC)) 

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Zawilensky (talk • contribs) 11:27, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Who is "we" ? Wikipedia accounts are strictly for single person use. Theroadislong (talk) 15:00, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes they are reliable, but they are primary sources, so not independent

Hi, This is my third message to which I received no reply. Please let me know your final decision on my draft page. Based on your response I will then have to decide what to do next. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmedsayed6311 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

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Help!

noone is taking care of the entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Booky_Oren

This is a paid for article, I have no interest in helping, sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 14:30, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

The Granite Page

Hi, Theroadislong

I got your response regarding the Granite Telecommunications page and am not sure I understand the flag. Nearly the entire entry is sourced from highly reputable sources (newspapers, major business press, tech industry publications). The only items sourced from the subject directly are its products list, which seems like it should be the most accurate source for that, their offices listings or expansion announcements (also the most reliable source for that), and the detailed listing of their charitable activities, which were prominent I looked the company up for the profile.

Can you please clarify the portion that you think is improper? I am happy to make changes but when I look at this, nothing seems obviously out of line. Especially if I look at similar pages that are in good standing.

Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Technutt (talk • contribs) 19:59, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Technutt It was declined because it reads like an advertisement and is not written in a neutral tone. The draft is stuffed with unsuitable promotional marketing trumpery…“LLC is a $1.4 billion telecom carrier and data provider” “customers include more than 80% of the Fortune 100 companies” “By the end of 2014, Granite had more than 1,200 employees, served 13,500 businesses and government organizations at over 240,000 locations in the U.S. and Canada, and had eclipsed $1 billion in annual revenue” “By year’s end, after seven consecutive years of $100 million in annualized revenue growth, Granite surpassed $1.35 billion in revenue”, “Granite announced a strategic focus on indirect sales with the addition of seven regional channel managers to strengthen local support of indirect sales operations” we need the dry facts not sensational prose. Theroadislong (talk) 20:23, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Theroadislong Alright. I see that approach in many pages and assumed it was necessary to establish that the company is notable. There are Wiki of the largest providers in America that have internal links to Wiki pages to every company but Granite (this was actually what started this project for me, in fact-- it was an obvious omission), and there are pages of the largest telecom companies in the world that include smaller firms than this one. So in my thinking the revenue and industry position detail were relevant. But I can trim all of that down and resubmit the page. Thanks for the feedback.
Theroadislong I stripped all of that information and resubmitted the page. Please let me know if I did it correctly. Thanks.

Request on 11:04:06, 30 August 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Nishibe0121


Hello.

I added one more source to the draft. Please let me know what can I do further to improve the draft.

Thanks.

Nishibe0121 (talk) 11:04, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Ananya pandey

Why no Wikipedia page She is an actress In Soty2 and Two other movie Atheera raj illalai (talk) 19:14, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry why are you asking me this? Theroadislong (talk) 19:38, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Ananya pandey

She is actress Create Wikipedia 3 bollywood movies lead — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atheera raj illalai (talk • contribs) 19:15, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Theroadislong My opinion is [[ping|Atheera raj illalai}} has a chip on their shoulder,and rather than create their own articles expects you or WP to create articles for persons they nominate.It appears from their comments here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Khans_of_Bollywood, that they have a problem with Muslim Indians, and ready to accuse of Hindu phobia. I don't think that they understand that WP articles are created by persons who might have an interest in the subject. Apparently he thinks that people nominate persons or subjects and WP elves get busy and jump to it.Oldperson (talk) 23:04, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Independent Source

Hi! Thanks so much for your feedback on my submission - you've mentioned that an independent source would help, but I just wanted to clarify what you meant and what is lacking from the sources I used.

Thanks so much!

Best wishes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wacholderweg (talk • contribs) 16:43, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Wacholderweg All your sources are connected to the subject. An independent source is a source that has no vested interest in a given Wikipedia topic and therefore is commonly expected to cover the topic from a disinterested perspective. More details here Wikipedia:Identifying and using independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 17:16, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks again for such a prompt response! I've looked over the page you directed me to and I am unsure how the three news articles included do not meet the criteria for an independent source. Apologies if this seems obtuse - this is my first time attempting to write a Wikipedia article, and so I mirrored the content of a page about another evolutionary psychologist (Benedict_Jones). Would it be helpful if I moved these to earlier in the article than the 'External Links' section? Thanks for your patience! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wacholderweg (talk • contribs) 00:14, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes if those external links could be used to support any of the content that would be much preferable, though those articles written by him are not independent of course. Theroadislong (talk) 06:57, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

That makes perfect sense, I understand. Thank you for the guidance. I have added three additional independent sources in addition to the single one that was on there. Please let me know if this is sufficient! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wacholderweg (talk • contribs) 15:06, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

my article PLEASE help x

My article is about a very well known athlete and public figure called Alana Pang. I watched her on a ice skating documentary by BBC and i wanted to learn more information about her. She is on quite a lot of magazines, features and is an internationally recognised figure skating and has titles all over the world . I dont understand why her profile got denied even though it is 100% accurate and is well publicised and known so i dont know why im getting denied Alana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Alana_Pang — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harmonyhiccup (talk • contribs) 16:40, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

As I commented on your draft the sources need to follow the content that they support not be in a long list at the end. Theroadislong (talk) 16:48, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Request on 13:35:35, 2 September 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by KlaraBenedict


Hello, What is the mistake in this article ? Thank you and have a lovely day.


KlaraBenedict (talk) 13:35, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Alan Fitzpatrick

Hello, What is the mistake in this article? Thank you and have a lovely day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KlaraBenedict (talk • contribs) 13:36, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

The decline notice tells you this...namely that the submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Discogs is not a reliable source and that is the only one you have. Theroadislong (talk) 13:39, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Alan Fitzpatrick

And which ones are the reliable sources, give me some examples please. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by KlaraBenedict (talk • contribs) 13:53, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources tells you all you need to know. Theroadislong (talk) 14:03, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Canal+ (Poland)

Why the draft is declined ?

NC+ will rebrand it's platform and sources are present. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.188.48.144 (talk) 17:46, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

It's not clear why Wikipedia should be interested in this company rebrand? Theroadislong (talk) 17:53, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NC%2B

Do I change NC+ to CANAL+ in this page ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.100.201.236 (talk) 18:20, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Looks like someone already has. Theroadislong (talk) 18:29, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

OK, now delete the draft. I changed the name of the platform name but not the title of the page (I can't). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.218.229.202 (talk) 18:31, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

I've added 2 sources in Polish language for rebranding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.218.229.202 (talk) 18:54, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Stone Broken Wikipedia page submission

Thanks very much for your feedback on my draft Stone Broken Wikipedia entry. I have taken your comments on board and amended my references so that they now demonstrate coverage from published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject, as requested. Stone Broken is now a major UK rock band deserving its own Wikipedia entry. Pages already exist for bands who have supported Stone Broken in the recent past, such as Jared James Nichols and Those Damn Crows. Please let me know if any further changes are required in order to gain acceptance. Thank you. Riaft (talk) 08:11, 3 September 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riaft (talk • contribs) 08:00, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Submission declined on 3 September 2019 by Theroadislong

Hi.

You declined my submission because I don't have good enough sources. Could you be so kind and explain to me what kind of source would help me submit a page for a small production company such as Differ Media? I have seen other companies of the same scale have pages on Wikipedia, so it shouldn't be impossible. Could an example of a published, reliable and secondary source be a news article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aurorabean (talk • contribs) 10:43, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes at least three independent news articles which discuss the company in detail would suffice. Theroadislong (talk) 11:01, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Message

Please you shouldn't have deleted an article about a history of an educational institution — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quophiasare (talk • contribs) 15:12, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Quophiasare I didn't delete the article I removed promotional and copyrighted content which you added. Theroadislong (talk) 15:16, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Respond

None of the article was copyrighted — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quophiasare (talk • contribs) 15:18, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Alexa Curtis draft

Kropfmichele2 deleted the four declines of the AfC for Draft:Alexa Curtis. David notMD (talk) 18:24, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Revised my entry

Just wanted to update you that I took your suggestions and moved most references to external links. I believe this is a cleaner entry now and ready. Thanks for reviewing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Readingwearingrocking (talk • contribs) 15:14, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Resubmit : Kwai Chai Hong

hi can you please review my submission? i've changed to include more reference. thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kschay (talk • contribs) 09:42, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Good day to you ,

pls could you let me know what other source may be required. As the ones i have inserted in the reference are Web articles sources.

Draft:Vasilis Michael

Submission declined on 5 September 2019 by Theroadislong (talk).

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article

Pls be so kind to assist me

thank you .

Timon Stathakis (talk) 13:09, 5 September 2019 (UTC)timon

Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject, there don't appear to be any so we cannot have an article. Theroadislong (talk) 15:07, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Washington Post

That is a Facebook link to a Washington Post article. Maybe I should swap it out with the original link - was an accident. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FinJournalist (talk • contribs) 18:38, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Advice on references

Hello Theroadislong!

I recently submitted a wiki page for review and it was declined due to its lack of references. I'm reaching out to you to ask a couple of questions if that's okay. I was wondering what citation style Wikipedia uses for references. My other question is, can I edit in images after the page is published to the main space (I'm still waiting for image rights to come through).

Thank you for your help!

Regards, InkDawkrajai — Preceding unsigned comment added by InkDawkrajai (talk • contribs) 14:33, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

You can read all about referencing here WP:REFB images can be uploaded to commons and then added later, assuming that you are the copyright holder. Theroadislong (talk) 17:32, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Hamideh Jahangiri

Dear (@Theroadislong:) Thank you for your comments. Could you please review my article Draft:Hamideh Jahangiri. I added more 3rd party sources that are verifiable and are independent, professional sources (not personal blogs or sites). Please let me know what else you think is required to have it accepted and move it to article. (Mohamadhadikoochak (talk) 07:34, 7 September 2019 (UTC)).

Your draft suffers from ref bombing, I suggest you choose 3 to 4 of the best sources and remove all the rest, we are not interested in any sources which are her own works. Theroadislong (talk) 18:08, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Q on reference source language

07:53:55, 14 November 2017 review of submission by FriendlyB


Dear Thereodislong,

thank you for reviewing the draft "Dr. Petry Textile Auxiliaries".

For the sources, I cited independent sources, such as - http://www.genios.de/fachzeitschriften/artikel/MTB/20080617/umweltschutz-und-nachhaltigkeit-in-/060817061.html - https://www.biooekonomie-bw.de/de/fachbeitrag/aktuell/insektenchitin-macht-textilherstellung-nachhaltiger/

In order to have more evidence, I added information from further independent sources and references: - https://www.bloomberg.com/profiles/companies/6311207Z:GR-textilchemie-dr-petry-gmbh - https://www.bluesign.com/industry/chemical-suppliers/references/textilchemie-dr-petry

Thank you in advance for re-reviewing.

Thanks for your help!

Thanks for your assistance with Draft:InnoCare. I have included {{connected contributor}} and noted it on your user page that I work for that company. They're not paying me to create this page, I just think it would cool to have a Wikipedia page. Let me know if there's anything else you can suggest to improve my draft. I appreciate your help!

05:44:48, 23 November 2017 review of submission by Lizzybunker

I've added the appropriate citations!

Invacio

Hi Theroadislong I've edited the text - please let me know if it's better this way I appreciate your feedback!

00:53:26, 27 November 2017 review of submission by Cmolaro


I added more 3rd party sources that are verifiable and are independent, professional sources (not personal blogs or sites). I now have 15 citations.

Please let me know what else you think is required to have it accepted?

12:54:53, 27 November 2017 review of submission by Llewol


08:40:08, 28 November 2017 review of submission by Salt&pepper12345


Hi there, thank very much for your care and consideration to to help build this page. I can understand why the review was rejected, as i hadn't cited enough sources on the first draft. I was wondering if you'd mind having a read over the latest draft and checking if it is better now thank you. SP

13:22:45, 4 December 2017 review of submission by 79.106.95.85


21:10:13, 6 December 2017 review of submission by Innocent Cuty


Dear Theroadislong

Hope you are fine and doing good.

I am requesting for a review again as the major comment for rejection/decline of this article was its Reference section or having less references. Now, the draft has been updated, and more than 20 solid references have been employed, with more historical details, and best possible bibliographic support in the light of the available literature. This single page article is now having over 25 appropriate references, and are strengthened with new data.

Your anticipation in this regard will be highly appreciated.

Sincere Regards

Dear Theroadislong

Thank you very much for your prompt response.

The objected references (facebook) has been udpated with the departmental URLS (links to the webpages). I think, these were the most up to dated and regularly updating references. Moreover, the last paragraph was deleted, because the book describing the paragraph and the mentioned material is in press (which is written by Dr. Ikram), and once the book got published, the three to four lines paragraph will be inserted again.

I do hope, that the draft will get approved now and will get online, as after coming across other such articles, this one seems to be far better than those.

Your prompt and positive anticipation in this regard will be highly appreciated.

Thanking you in anticipation

Sincere Regards

07:43:09, 15 December 2017 review of submission by Kgkg90


23:49:06, 23 December 2017 review of submission by Pearl ally


The submission's referencing was improved as advised, and I added a few more. More information on his teachings and publications were added. The page exists in 3 other Wikipedia: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Russell https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Russell https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Russell

In-depth coverage

I added RPG Site. Is that a reliable source?

02:14:50, 26 December 2017 review of submission by Pearl ally


Please see references 15,18,19,21,22

07:39:46, 28 December 2017 review of submission by Nat.johnson


Hi Theroadislong! I have recently uploaded a draft of the article "Admitad" here and you have declined it. Could you kindly explain what can I do to make it right? Is it possible to work with you as my mentor on the draft? Or, maybe, you can help with writing, could you kindly tell me what is the best option? admitad is a global company, it already helps over 630,000 people worldwide. I believe, that it needs to be on Wikipedia.

23:24:44, 4 January 2018 review of submission by Yesterdaysfire


Hi there!

I was just wondering what the issue was with my article submission? I tried to follow all the guidelines. I hope that I can make any revisions that you may require!

edited

Hi there Thanks for your comment. Made the edits per your notes on the page for David A. Hurwitz. GigiH0118

13:36:39, 8 January 2018 review of submission by Tearstosweat


More reliable references like newspaper sources(Times of India, Decaan Chronicle) are added

00:42:00, 26 February 2018 review of re-submission by Vliander


Dear Theroadislong,


Thank you for your valuable time and timely reply.


The bellow listed recognition letters and independent press publications may provide a more in-depth coverage regarding different subjects about Carl-W. Röhrig's life and work mentioned in the WIKI article.


I now additionally added the following references to the Citations and References section in the article:


8. Röhrig, Carl-W. (1992). "Newspaper Article". DIE WELT - Independent Daily Newspaper for Germany.

9. Röhrig, Carl-W. (1993). "Newspaper Article". East Grinstead Courier, United Kingdom.

10. Röhrig, Carl-W. (1989). "Recognition Letter". by the National Geographic Society, Washington D.C.

11. Röhrig, Carl-W. (1993). "Newspaper Article". THE PRESS, Christchurch, New Zealand.

12. Röhrig, Carl-W. (1992). "Recognition Letter". by Heinz Sielemann, Munich, Germany.

14. Röhrig, Carl-W. (1993). "Newspaper Article". BILD Newspaper, Germany.

17. Röhrig, Carl-W. (2003). "Newspaper Article". Fränkischer Tag, Newspaper, Germany.


I am looking forward hearing from you.


Sincerely,

Vliander


Vliander (talk) 00:42:00, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

12:27:00, 26 February 2018 review of re-submission by Vliander

Dear Theroadislong,


The article was written from a neutral point of view and reliable sources where provided.

The questioned links in regards to Röhrig letters could be removed if required.


Sincerely,

Vliander

Request on 08:52:05, 6 June 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by WildBullMiller


Thanks for the info

For the bio, is Nicholas Kaufmann's official website a good enough source? That's where the info comes from, anyway.

Typo in Title

Hi and thanks for approving my post for "Helgesias of Sinope." Unfortunately there's a typo in the title, which should be "Hegesias of Sinope" (no L). My apologies for that (it was my first post). I don't know how to fix a mistake in a title. Are you able to help me? Thank you, Budapest Joe

Re-submitted

Hi Theroadislong.

I have resubmitted the article for a re-review, please let me know if it reads better now? If not, can you give me an example of how to improve it. Thank you, Christian.

Images/Imágenes

Hi! As Images/Imágenes stated I am being paid to edit this page, but I am also working on this program as it is a work in progress. It was on the aire for over 30 years and pulled off in 2011. We are currently working on starting the project again but as this program began in the 70's there is not a large online presence. Is there anyway this page could be published for now, so we can show people that Images/Imágenes is coming back? Thanks, Alice

I have a lot of information from the Executive Producer but since none of it is available online, I cannot reference it. For example: (None of this is available online) Mission Images/Imágenes is a multi- Emmy award-winning television program series that creates, chronicles, and promotes the varied rich diverse history, culture, and life experiences of Hispanic/Latino communities in the state of New Jersey and the nation. Brief Organizational History For 46 years, the Images/Imágenes television series provided a voice and platform for New Jersey's diverse Latino population. The program series is known as the longest-running Latino community program in the history of PBS. Over the decades, the Emmy award winning series featured thought provoking round table discussions, interviews, profiles, documentaries and special topic episodes on the most prevalent issues pertaining to and for the Hispanic/Latino populations – the fastest growing demographic in New Jersey. Program topics ranged from lifestyles, business, education, legal matters, community affairs, pop culture/entertainment, the arts, sports and the health and sciences. Images/Imagenes was launched on January 6, 1972 than titled “Mi Casa Su Casa” on NJPTV hosted by producer, Diego Castellanos. The program made history as the first Latino television series on Public Television in New Jersey to air across the Garden State and surged as the nation’s number one market in New York and the number 4 market in Philadelphia. Since then the series is recognized as a resource for top Latino stories, both at local, as well as the national level. Award Winning Producer William Sánchez is the Producer/Director of Images/Imágenes since 1972, and is currently revitalizing a new series as its producer/director at Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey. He produced the series with the PBS NJ Television Network until the station was dissolved by the state on June 30, 2011. Within the first ten years Images/Imágenes became the leading contributor of programs for the PBS Series Presente hosted by Rita Moreno. Images/Imágenes competed with mainstream networks and was selected over ABC World News Tonight at the National Unity Awards in St. Louis. Then it rose to the top of the Latino Broadcasting Media when it was highlighted at the San Antonio Film Festival in the 1980s as a must see series on Latin Music alongside the films “LA BAMBA” and “STAND AND DELIVER.” National Recognition

For over 40 years, Images/Imágenes under the leadership of producer William Sanchez the television industry has recognized the series with four Emmys and nominated for twenty by National PBS. The series is distinguished having received numerous national acclaims from the White House, Congress, National PBS, the National Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB), and three New Jersey Governors. The series represented PBS in Europe, Asia, and Latin America. It was distributed by the Department of Defense and with audiences including American military bases around the world. It was also national under the Latino Consortium’s series “PRESENTE” with host Rita Moreno. Now under the banner of Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, Images/Imagenes’ legacy continues for public viewing at the United States Library of Congress. Signature Shows There are a number of evergreen programs that were signature shows for the series and are timeless works of history and culture. A. Sembrando El Futuro/Seeding the Future (5-part Parent Education Series) Nationally acclaimed/ New York Emmy Award Winner 1985 B. The Hispanic Youth Showcase 1999 (Talent competition/motivational program hosted by kids (Ages 5 to 17) was recognized as one of the top six children’s programs in the nation by The Arts Council Co-op/ Mid-Atlantic Emmy Award Winner C. Su Salud Primero/Your Health First with host John Quiñones Mid-Atlantic 2008 Emmy Award Winner, drew national acclaim D. The Spanish Guitar (History/Legends: Jose Feliciano) Mid-Atlantic Emmy Winner 2010


Notable Programs & Specials Include: E. Festival Afro-Caribeño (Afro-Caribbean Festival at Newark’s Symphony Hall 1980) 2,500 people attended concert/first of several Images’ shows to obtain national acclaim F. Word-Up Stop the Violence with Edward Hames Olmos (Actor) 2004 Emmy Nominated Town meeting with 400 teens G. Lainzation of New Jersey, 1982 winner of the national Unity Award held in St. Louis, Ma. Won against ABC’s World News Tonight Other Notable Programs & Specials Include: H. Caribbean Music And Dance Emmy Nominated, Represented PBS At An International Level I. Latin Music Special Emmy Nominated J. The Art of Baseball Emmy Nominated K. Latinos in Boxing (History and Legends) L. History of Flamenco (History and Performance)

The Golden Age of Dance: The Palladium Obtained worldwide download success on the internet in 2009 1983 Special: Alcoholism & Mental health Inspired New Jersey Government offices to establish policies and focus groups aimed at understanding and serving Latinos in need of mental health

Productech Corporation draft reviewing

Dear Thereodislong,

thank you for reviewing the draft of Productech Corporation article. I was trying to do it objective aтв not an advertising, taking an article about JBL as an inspiration. Looks like I failed (( Would you please advise, what parts of the article require editing? thank you in advance!

References added

Hi, I filled up the draft with some useful references and also added some literature. I hope it could be enought. Thanks

Thanks

I want to know that why my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dolmen_Malls not approving any suggestion

Grateful!Gmli82164 (talk) 11:12, 7 October 2018 (UTC)Gmli82164

Hi! Thank you for the review. I will do what I can to improve that article.

Lorraine McGowen Draft Page

Thank you for the notification. I have removed all external links from the Lorraine McGowen page.

DRAFT:Summation Formula List Decline

Ok, I took your advice and added my material back onto the wiki page on summation. You watch how long it takes D Lazarus to delete it and post his own rambling notes. His notes don't transition well for sentence-to-sentence; paragraph-to-paragraph, nor make any sense; Some of what he posts really is not related to closed form summation. Roger

Dixon Algebra submission.

I have followed your instructions and I think I have successfully updated the references to conform to wiki practices.

Historical notes: • I begsn working on this topic some 40 years ago; • Periodically the algebra has cropped up in the works of others; • Most of this activity has occurred in the last 8 years; • John Baez was the first to call the algebra the Dixon algebra; • This became somewhat solidified when the Quanta Mag and Wired articles appeared; • I recently saw a blog in which the blog's author said there is no wikipedia page for the Dixon algebra yet; • So I decided to start one.

Cheers, Geoffrey Dixon

Great American Doll Company Draft

Hello. Can you please help me edit this wiki page. I have done it the best I can. Can you please tell me what i need to fix up

Thank you for your help....

I really appreciate your help with my draft:Marek Holeček. I will try my best to add those missing citations you pointed out so hopefully it can get better. Thanks again...I really hope the article will be accepted at last ...

autobio

Dear Theroadislong,

Thank you for your reply - I wasn't aware of restriction on autobiographies, but can well appreciate the reasoning behind it!

all best,

Ketty Nez

Aron Ain Draft

Thank you for reviewing the draft. I'll edit the page to include more sources or remove sections that don't have sources. Thank you!

Ashleylouisewilliams3408

FYI: Ashley has been adding photos to Commons and then inserting those photos into various articles in preparation for her intention to create an article about her grandfather, Virgil Williams. I left a note on her Talk to declare paid or COI if she proceeds with the attempt. (Evidence for intention is creation and then deletion of a draft in her Sandbox.) The quail hunting photo you deleted was there because Virgil owns the land that was name-mentioned in the image caption. David notMD (talk)

Mona Lisa Brookshire

New edits

https://ameyawdebrah.com/mona-lisa-brookshire-blay-miezah-featured-in-upcoming-inspirational-film-becoming-the-keys

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ml4lyfe2 (talk • contribs) 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Can you help me improve my page?

Celalettin-Field Quantum Observation Tunnel

Hello there,

I have removed unsourced material and thinned it out as per your direction. Can you please cast an eye?

Draft:900 wine prosecco

Hi Theroadislong, thanks for reviewing my page!

I saw your comment on my draft page 900 wine, I'm inserting the Italian wine brand on the market. I'm not connected to the company, I just try to make the list of brands on wikipedia as complete as possible. I am passionate about wine and I think this brand is important in the Italian sparkling wine scene.

can you possibly and kindly advise me of the changes that can better comply with the policies of wikipedia? Thanks a lot!

April editathons at Women in Red

Page deletion tagged

I am definitely not using it as a free hosting service and i am sorry i ll need to disagree with your analysis. its just i am taking time to be up to the required standard of trained wiki editors and i think i ll make it. thank you for taking the time to reviewing my page.

Regards

Shahara Ahmad-Llewellyn

Why can't you just add some things and save as you modify instead of it making you resubmit and publish. Because I have a long way to go and I can't keep getting rejected.

Re-review My Article

Hello Theroadislong,

I have already added new sources like you adviced for my draft article Draft:Finalist of the Intel ISEF and hope if you could review it again and see if its notable enough for Wikipedia.

Thank you very much Mathew Anderson

Review of submission by Casper da Costa-Luis


Thanks for your review.

As requested, I've removed external links as requested (except for the "See Also" section) and used more neutral language.

Do let me know if anything else needs improving!

Short information about Ukrainian scientist

Hello. Could you please help to create short info page about Ukrainian scientist? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Yevgeniy_Zadorin

Milly Bennett review

Hey! Thanks for reviewing the article. I'm very new to this, so I'll try to learn more and go back in to cite third-party sources. Thanks for your help

re-edit is submitted

Hi Theroadislong.

I have re-edited my article submitted on the 19th of April. Will be very thankful if you can have a loot at it in the nearest possible date. Thank you!

M28 Trombonico

hey how can I make my article better or get some exceptions by changing a few things cause I don't really understand what the bot thing wants

Wikipedia page

Dear Theroadislong,

Thank you for getting back to me so quickly, I take on board what you say and will think again.

Many thanks,

Ian

Australian Biome Project

Thank you for your advice, do I need to add credit or remove the biome reference entirely.````

I have re edited for your comment. could you please take a look and give me some feed back thanks````

Update

Hi, Theroadislong -- thanks for your comment. I have updated the situation with the external links. Sorry for the mistake! Please let me know if anything else needs changing. Thanks!

Thank you

Thank you for the swift review of my article. Best, K

PyCM

Hi

I think Draft:PyCM is good enough to be accepted. This article provides some reliable references like Journal of open source software and Github (the most popular community of software developers) and etc. In comparison with other accepted open-source software articles like Aika_(software), Renjin , UIMA , BigDL, Cantera_(software) that most of them are self-cited. And also this library with more than 640 stars, 200 dependant codes and 1000 installs per week, is more popular than currently available articles on English Wikipedia like ELKI, Cantera_(software), OpenNN. Any suggestion is gratefully welcomed to improve this draft.

Thank you for your consideration.

Request for Dispute Resolution

Apologies for not notifying you on your talk page. I thought notification on the related talk page was appropriate initially, but see that I need to notify everyone individually.

Jorgen Odegard decline

Hey Theroadislong!

Hope all is well. I happen to notice a decline for Jorgen Odegard’s wiki page which is totally okay because I’m very new to creating wiki pages. My goal is to improve and help songwriters and producers’ lifes with publishing & management company by creating sources of all their music credit and praises as this is one of the most useful tools publishing companies use to determine their qualifications for sessions, pub deals, and so much more! Also as you mentioned, the information on the producer is lacking and scattered all over the internet, which is why this wiki page is super important for a lot of these producers and songwriters.

That being said, would love your thoughts and suggestions that’ll help this process. To give you an idea, I used Sarah Aarons as a reference who’s another songwriter with a similar amount of credibility as jorgen in this industry. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Aarons Again, would love your input! Thanks so much

Jorgen odegard decline

Hey Theroadislong!

Hope all is well. I happen to notice a decline for Jorgen Odegard’s wiki page which is totally okay because I’m very new to creating wiki pages. My goal is to improve and help songwriters and producers’ lifes with publishing & management company by creating sources of all their music credit and praises as this is one of the most useful tools publishing companies use to determine their qualifications for sessions, pub deals, and so much more! Also as you mentioned, the information on the producer is lacking and scattered all over the internet, which is why this wiki page is super important for a lot of these producers and songwriters.

That being said, would love your thoughts and suggestions that’ll help this process. To give you an idea, I used Sarah Aarons as a reference who’s another songwriter with a similar amount of credibility as jorgen in this industry. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Aarons Again, would love your input! Thanks so much

Jam.py Application Builder (web framework)

Hi Theroadislong,

thanks for reviewing.

I'm confused again. A number of different people rejected my article on different basis (StraussInTheHouse‬, Mjs1991‬, SamHolt6).

This is the first time it's rejected on the "This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia." basis. StraussInTheHouse Reviewer noted: "Potentially notable, but we need more WP:SECONDARY sources."

I really went and checked ALL Python Web Frameworks Published on Wikipedia and have no idea how is my article different than any other? This is a nerve breaking procedure, I do not think anyone deserves this with helping to Open Source community and absolutely free software. Can you please help with advice?

Thank you

Included more references to interviews with Lemore information about recent news coverage

Hello Thereodislong,

Thank you for reviewing my entry for Eric Lefcowitz. As per your suggestion I have included more references to interviews with Lefcowitz discussing his work and recent coverage of his business ventures which are, indeed, newsworthy. I also fixed typos you pointed out.

I think the citations and references now displayed are more than ample now. They include the New York Times, the Washington Post, the New Yorker, Newsday, NPR, MTV, VH1, PR and two ISBNs for notable books.

Regards,

Readngwearingrocking

Update Info

Hello. As a representative of Lawrence Academy, was wondering what the best method to update factual information might be. There are updates to our enrollment, acreage, physical plant, history that I'd like to add into the record, but I do not wish to do so without consulting the person who has kept this page up.Communications Lawrence Academy (talk) 17:39, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

You can suggest proposed edits on the article talk page, once you have changed your user name. Theroadislong (talk) 18:03, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Are the citations the only issues with the page? If so, I can remove passing mentions and only provide more substantial links. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mj4841 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

The sources are poor but you also need to declare any conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 19:06, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm a writer involved in the health insurance industry, but am not being paid for my Wiki article and I am not affiliated with healthinsurance.org or their partners. Is there somewhere I can note this formally? Mj4841 (talk) 13:17, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

hey,

you rejected my article haha! please do allow it! have sent you a reply on the decline message explaining why it should be allowed!

thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neelpurohit19 (talk • contribs) 17:26, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

Hello Theroadislong,

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Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

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