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The problems with Iran is not the problem

Hello. I am enormously appreciative for all the vital work that administrators do here. However, the article remains orphaned and I've tagged it as such. The film covers a controversial subject area: yet from what I can see, there is only the Maan reference which could be considered an independent reliable source -- so I've added a refimprove tag. IMDb may not be used as a reliable source, per WP:RS/IMDB. I have tried to address WP:N and copyediting concerns. I'm trying to help this article, not pick a quarrel with an admin, believe me. But it needs work. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:06, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

  • Hello Shawn in Montreal,
    (typing using my tablet, so please ignore typos etc. (if any)). Replies:
  1. "administrative works" -- not really. Busy schedules in RL (real life).
  2. "IMDb": I know about it and don't use IMDb ref. Please check article history and edits once again.
  3. "Orphan tag" -- that is not simple area, I feel. Let me explain-- if you do patrol or use AWB (WP:AWB), most probably you know about "auto-tag" option that adds orphan and other tags automatically. Power users like User:Bgwhite have this "auto tag" option turned off. I have similar settings as well.
    when you find an orphan article, it may be off two types-- a) where you can add links to other articles (tool like this helps), b) where you just don't have any option to add any link anywhere. Shouting on a problem is fine, only if it has a solution. I don't know what to do if there is no solution (FindLink shows zero available link). I have seen attempts where users add their articles' links to "See also" section of other articles (unnecessarily) just to remove "orphan" tag. I don't know whether it solves the problem, but I don't do so.
  4. "Notability": it is a documentary, not a feature film. Documentaries don't get much media attention like full-length films. Anyway there are a couple of news reviews. There should be some NONENG articles too. I'll check.
  5. "Refimprove": I can't understand it. There is only one unsourced paragraph, that too became unsourced after you removed a ref. Everything else is sourced. Plot does not need source, I think. anyway I'll try to search some non-English sources. --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:20, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
    • I work a great deal in the doc film area and we can't use the genre as an excuse to circumvent WP:NFILM. It either meets NFILM or it doesn't, and notable doc films do. I'd added refimprove as a hopefully less controversial way of calling attention to what I'd first raised with the notability tag: my concern isn't unsourced statements, but rather that absence of multiple independent reliable sources proving that this article does indeed meet WP:NFILM. However, there may indeed be non-English refs, I agree. Farsi, no doubt. How "independent" an Iranian outlet would be is debatable, but then of course Prof. Chomsky and this film raise that very accusation about western news sources, so that's a wash. As for the orphan tag point, I'm positive there's a film list or two to which this article could be added. best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:54, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Did I ask you to "excuse"? --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:10, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Google is not always effective in searching English newspapers leave alone non–English ones. I am pretty sure you'll find entries such as this in culture and neighbourhood sections of many popular English dailies, particularly those in Bangalore because the movie featured there in a theatre fest which tried to showcase politically provocative content. I am not sure how much this helps with the notability issues though. Amitrochates (talk) 16:27, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Doesn't India talk about cultural and civilizational links with Iran? Wasn't Iran the country that killed the OIC resolution on Kashmir in 1994 when Indian was in a tough spot?[1] Isn't Iran India's link to Central Asia and isn't India building a port in Iran? If Indian newspapers won't cover Iran is not the problem, then who will? Amitrochates (talk) 16:52, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Oh, I should also point out that this Findlink search tool appears to be rather useless, as the very first name in the cast list is Antonia Juhasz, for whom there is an article. This article could easily be de-orphaned if one cared to. But I'm personally not convinced it actually meets WP:NFILM at this point, either. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:30, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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THis discussion

See the attitude of the user here You are invited in this {https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bengali_people&oldid=654462048#List_of_people_in_the_collage discussion] but check this edit [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by CosmicEmperor (talkcontribs) 08:59, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

You can give your views as only one Indian editor has voted but rest all are Bangladeshis--Johnsontoymaker (talk) 14:09, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

April 2015 Wikification drive.

Greetings! Just spreading a message to the members of WikiProject Wikify that the April drive has been started. Come on, sign up! :) One hand on the mouse, one hand on the keyboard... and the feet can do the rest! Hee-hee! (talk) 03:59, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

PLEASE COMMENT

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wikipedia (7th nomination)... Hafspajen (talk) 22:25, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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I should be unblocked

I am User 115ash. I did not offend Indians. I was telling the truth and talking about those from West Bengal. It's a shame for me to be blocked. --78.149.203.69 (talk) 16:01, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

  • Do these things: first sign in to your account, then go to your user talkpage and request unblock {tlx|unblock|2=reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} Please note: you have been blocked for edit warring and WP:3RR violation. The block is of 48 hours. I don't think an admin will consider unblocking. Your only hope is show that your reverts were under WP:3RRNO. Or you may make promise that you would not edit-war again, but I don't know how it'll go. But for now,sign in to your account and don't use this IP on other pages or it may be considered WP:BE. Best wishes. (PS. I have watchlisted your talk, you may ping me there) --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:11, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

You don't deserve to be an administrator , you support and love blocked userCosmic Emperor (talk) 16:46, 2 April 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brown American (talkcontribs)

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All the best! "Carry me down, carry me down; carry me down into the wiki!" (talk) 00:51, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Titodutta Great to see you! I would like to learn more about Counter-Vandalism and wish to join the CV program. As I can see, you have provided your name in Available trainers. Can you mentor me, so that I could do well in Countering Vandalism? Thank you!--Jaaron95 (talk) 10:39, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Titodutta I am ready to start whenever you want me to (even now)! How much time should I spend daily? I will be available from 2:30pm IST to 11:00pm or 12:00am max. ;) on weekdays. And most of the time on Holidays.. --Jaaron95 (talk) 10:53, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Oh! LOL ! Actually it was on his page that I first posted my request to train me.. Then noticed that he wasn't active. I just copy pasted the message but forgot to change the name! Sorry Titodutta! --Jaaron95 (talk) 11:15, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Titodutta, I'm available. Shall we start? Ping me when you are available! --Jaaron95 (talk) 09:45, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Titodutta, it'd be nice if you leave me a time to start--Jaaron95 (talk) 12:31, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
More lessons please --†ããrøn95® 04:51, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Titodutta: Only from Tomorrow??? But why? --JAaron95 | Talk | Contribs 15:54, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

I try checking only the upcoming edits. Tito Dutta (talk) 16:02, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
@Titodutta: I'm sorry, but I don't get what you just said--JAaron95 | Talk | Contribs 16:09, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
I'll check your "going to do"or the "upcoming" reverts — it means the reverts you'll make from now. I generally ask to make a list "from tomorrow" . Please ask questions at the CVU page itself. I am following the page. You don't need to notify me. --Tito Dutta (talk) 17:18, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

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Enthiran FAC 2.0

I have opened the 2nd FAC for the article. Please do let me know if you would like to make any comments. Thanks. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 02:28, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi Protect Request

Hello Titodutta, happy to talk with you. I requested semi protect to these below article. Because so many user change the information as their wish without any reliable source.

  1. Sunrisers Hyderabad
  2. 2015 Indian Premier League

Thanking You. - Srinu523 (talk · contribs) 9 April 2015, 08:42 (UTC)

Invite

A Barnstar!
Please participate

There's a voting going on here. It needs to close, but consensus is not certain. We need more participation. The issues can't remain without a resolution. Please, check it out. Closure of the discussion has started. (refresh) Please, hurry. nafSadh did say 14:10, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello. I believe we really need more participation there. I clearly can see Bangladeshi newbies voting out very important people from West Bengal origins. Bagha Jatin and Thakur Ramakrishna are being voted out, while Bhashani and Taslima Nasrin are voted in. Not a pretty scene unless more people have voted. Need your help to secure more participation, on top of you voting, of course. Aditya(talkcontribs) 17:46, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Nafsadh is managing the spreadsheet. I understand the uninvolved part. But, you know more editors in good standing than I do. I have not been involved with Bengal related stuff for quite some time now. Aditya(talkcontribs) 18:08, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm the only owner of the spreadsheet now. I'd love to grant access to some more volunteers if they give me their gmail address. ~ nafSadh did say 18:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Send me an email with your gmail id if you want. nafSadh did say 18:31, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Dispute

Can you handle this IP. Also this. - Rahat (Message) 08:28, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Make sure

Hello. Just to remind you, make sure NOT to vandalize Wikipedia. Wikipedia was founded in January 2001. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CFC5:6240:95B8:BF49:BEE2:6A41 (talk) 06:02, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Malika Sobirova

Harrias talk 00:02, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Formal Intro

Hello Dear Titodutta. I humbly introduce myself to you, I am comparatively new here. I am attracted towards biography articles always, and I feel that the one who deserve should be recognized by the world, and the one who NOT, should make the space available for other capable but humble personalities around. I am also interested in Science and Indian Law related articles; and well versed (I think) with Indian Higher Education system as well as Law regimes. I see that you are an admin, very talented editor here on wiki. Just wish to convey my greetings, regards and good wishes to you. Regards. Educationtemple (talk) 07:09, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

  • Hello to you. I live in Kolkata, India. I can not understand I feel that the one who deserve should be recognized by the world, and the one who NOT, should make the space available for other . . . Thanks --Tito Dutta (talk) 08:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Bengali aticle request? en:Dhaka Japanese School

Hi, Tito! How have things been going lately? I want to check to see if you know somebody who is interested in starting a Bengali article on the en:Dhaka Japanese School?

Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 16:06, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Sent the request! Thank you so much! WhisperToMe (talk) 13:36, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Subhash Chandra Bose

I have nominated Netaji for good article . Please check the defects , so that it qualifies --C E (talk) 17:25, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@CosmicEmperor:: Are you in a position to access the sources cited in the article, address the reviewer's concerns, and write the section that is currently blank? If not, I'd urge you to withdraw the nomination, which will only end up wasting a good-faith reviewer's time, and inevitably result in a "not promoted". Abecedare (talk) 18:57, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

HAPPY WIKIBIRTHDAY

Lotje (talk) 07:41, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Removing collage completely in this page and adding in Bangladeshis and Bengali Hindus the only Solution

Bangladeshis might feel that they are larger in population but lower in pictures , and they will try to remove lots on great people Chaitanya mahaprabhu, Ramakrishna , Swami Vivekananda , Subhash Bose , Aurobindo Ghosh , Sharat Chandra Chatterjee , Pranab Mukherjee , Michael Madhushudhan , Khudiram , Sharadindu , Sukumar Roy. And they are trying to fill with Shefali Chaundhury . As if there must be some balancing act . Where both will get equal share of the property(collage ). Already we have two pages Bangladeshis and Bengali Hindus . Best solution would be to remove the picture collage here in this article and add in those pages according to Bangladeshi and Indian point of view. Problem solved.

In that case as i stated above , Bifurcation won't be necessary . Then Subhash Chandra Bose Vs Shefali Chaudhuri , Bipasha Vs Ramakrishna , Shakib Vs Swami Vivekananda , Pranab Mukherjee Vs Zia ul Haq debate will be over.So , lets call for peace. This page Bengali people don't require picture collage as the discussion will go nowhere . We must add our preference in Bangladeshis and Bengali Hindus page. Sorry guys , all of you will have to sacrifice your hard labour ,especially those involved in this edit war from the past few months . Lots of pages get deleted . This is nothing. Thanks for your contribution to the talk page , but this is the best solution available right now. As there is no end to debate.112.79.38.6 (talk) 07:17, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@112.79.38.6, now you are commenting in a positive manner at his and his talk page. At my one you've written "তুই ভাবছিস চেক ইউসার ধরতে পারেনি কেন। আমি সাইবার কাফে থেকে লগইন করি। তারপর ল্যাপটপ থেকে।" হে হে।" Neven seen a joker like you. This is the same IP RANGE FROM KOLKATA. --115ash→(☏) 11:55, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

A favour, if you can.

Hi, I don't believe we've crossed paths at all. You quite rightly gave Micheal Bentwood an indeff. Could I ask you to look at the following interchange, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MichaelBentwood#Hey.2C_Michael.2C_this_can_still_end_well_... , and see if I am stepping on your or any other toes.

I'd like to help him, obviously. Hmm - it would be nice if I said 'thanks very much' as well, don't you think? -Roxy the Viking dog™ (resonate) 09:17, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

  • Hello Roxy the Viking dog™, welcome to this talk page. let me show you the edit(s) he made— 1 — these are not encylopedic content (as you have also tried to explain to him). Anyway, he was not blocked for these edits or the edit-war. He gave a legal threat here. WP:NLT is taken seriously.
His comments—
how can there not be a more reliable and credible source than Michael Bentwood writing about Michael Bentwood — as you are trying to help him, please ask him to read WP:V, WP:OR, WP:SECONDARY
If he had said— "I am sorry, I did not know about this 'legal threat" policy (obviously no one knows it from the first day), I'll try to follow WP:RS etc. too}}, it would have been much better.. ."
Although, even if I am unblocked, my adjustments are likely to be removed again. — this does not look promising. Thanks. --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:36, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks very much for such a swift response, and for taking the time to have a look. I've been reviewing his edits myself to see what happened. It is typical of the subject of a BLP just not knowing how wikipedia works. I agree wholeheartedly with your points above, and his position is very entrenched. I just want to help him, want him to be happier about wikipedia. we will see what happens, I'll let you know if something good, or bad, happens. best wishes -Roxy the Viking dog™ (resonate) 10:05, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Well, that was not satisfactory, but it is all over now. Thanks for your comments. best. -Roxy the Viking dog™ (resonate) 17:41, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Personal attack

Hi Tito! I'm extremely disturbed by that sort of behaviour, shown by that user towards you. To others who don't know Bengali: Yes, I confirm that the comment placed by that newuser, who appears to be a sock, in this page is a sheer personal attack and the user is eligible to get a block without any further warnings. I'm adding my comment here instead of AN/I because I'm currently on phone (Lengthy pages like AN, WP:VPT etc doesn't load properly in my phone, sorry!). Best, Jim Carter 17:04, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Have a good one!

Please comment your thoughts and suggestions

Hi, Titodutta please comment your thoughts and suggestions here Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Julia Galef. It's about reliable sources in the BLP article Julia Galef. Regards. --†ããrøn95® 14:37, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

  • I am struggling with computer, internet speed, health and more importantly schedule. I'll see if I can get some time. The same applies for your CVU message above. Tito Dutta (talk) 18:57, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

ANI

You might comment here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Biased_attitude --CosmicEmperor (talk) 10:04, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

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You are requested to take a look at User:Titodutta/CVU/Students/Jaaron95. In case if you didn't know that I've completed answering (on 20th).... Thanks. --JAaron95 | Talk | Contribs 18:07, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Hello

Hello Sir. It seems I became alone on this issue and no Indian editor is coming forward to speak the truth. Commons admins simply washed the hands by saying that "Yes it is probably illegal in India but that is the uploaders responsibility". Before that someone else has already said, "pack and go home". I am surprised on the silence of Indian Admins and Editors on this issue!! Did I do any mistake by raising this issue by the way?? If Indian Admins thinks so, please let me know, I shall take "Retirement" from wiki for ever!! Educationtemple (talk) 19:07, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Educationtemple, it was unfortunate. But I don't recommend you to get frustrated about it. Regards. --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:30, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Cant we talk about 'without subject'?

khik khik khik khik Gargi 08:43, 27 April 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Choudhury.gargi (talkcontribs)

Feel free to ask question. Use --~~~~ to sign. --Tito Dutta (talk) 08:48, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Hello Tito Sir !

Last I have edited a book article named Che in Paona Bzaar, that was my 2nd article after joining this Wikipedia , naturally I did some mistakes like I added 'flipkart' link URL to the readers to get the copy easily as I bought the copy from flipcart only. Members of this space did not like that . They blamed me directly that I wrote theythe article from the cover of the book and top of that they asked me that am I the publisher in disguise !! I felt humiliated and expressed this in here, then and then they deleted their sayings from their talk page. One lady named Diana from that group edited the article by her own without reading the book. Recently I have gathered many reviews on that particular book which say not that much of sarcastic way of reviewing rather they also praise and wrote about the uniqueness about it like i was written in 1st. My request is can i edit the book again with other references also ? And Yes, I will not mention about where to get the book for sure !

Gargi 13:06, 30 April 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Choudhury.gargi (talkcontribs)

  • No need to call me sir. Please add --~~~~ at the end of your message only when you are writing in talk pages like this ort article's talk pages. Yes of course you may edit the article unless you are topic banned. But I suggest you to read WP:V and WP:RS. If you provide me the links of the references you have collected I may suggest a few things. Regards. --Tito Dutta (talk) 13:12, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

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