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May 2017 WikiCup newsletter

The second round of the competition has now closed, with just under 100 points being required to qualify for round 3. YellowEvan just scraped into the next round with 98 points but we have to say goodbye to the thirty or so competitors who didn't achieve this threshold; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. Our top scorers in round 2 were:

  • Scotland Cas Liber, led the field with five featured articles, four on birds and one on astronomy, and a total score of 2049, half of which came from bonus points.
  • Japan 1989 was in second place with 826 points, 466 of which were bonus points. 1989 has claimed points mostly relating to anime and Japanese-related articles.
  • South Australia Peacemaker67 took third place with two FAs, one GA and seven GARs, mostly on naval vessels or military personnel, scoring 543 points.
  • Other contestants who scored over 400 points were Freikorp, Carbrera, and Czar. Of course all these points are now wiped out and the 32 remaining contestants start again from zero in round 3.

Vivvt submitted the largest number of DYKs (30), and MBlaze Lightning achieved 13 articles at ITN. Carbrera claimed for 11 GAs and Argento Surfer performed the most GARs, having reviewed 11. So far we have achieved 38 featured articles and a splendid 132 good articles. Commendably, 279 GARs have been achieved so far, more than double the number of GAs.

So, on to the third round. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 13:16, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXIII, May 2017

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXIV, June 2017

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WikiCup 2017 July newsletter

The third round of the competition has finished in a flurry of last minute activity, with 288 points being required to qualify for round 4. It was a hotly competitive round with all but four of the contestants exceeding the 106 points that was necessary to proceed to round 4 last year. Coemgenus and Freikorp tied on 288, and both have been allowed to proceed, so round 4 now has one pool of eight competitors and one of nine.

Round 3 saw the achievement of a 26-topic Featured topic by MPJ-DK as well as 5 featured lists and 13 featured articles. PanagiotisZois and SounderBruce achieved their first ever featured articles. Carbrera led the GA score with 10, Tachs achieved 17 DYKs and MBlaze Lightning 10 In the news items. There were 167 DYKs, 93 GARs and 82 GAs overall, this last figure being higher than the number of GAs in round 2, when twice as many people were taking part. Even though contestants performed more GARs than they achieved GAs, there was still some frustration at the length of time taken to get articles reviewed.

As we start round 4, we say goodbye to the fifteen or so competitors who didn't quite make it; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them (some people have fallen foul of this rule and the points have been removed).

If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 05:37, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXV, July 2017

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXVI, August 2017

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Literary Hall scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the Literary Hall article has been scheduled as today's featured article for September 23, 2017. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/September 23, 2017, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1100 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:58, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Jimfbleak, thank you so much for your notification! The TFA looks good to go in its current form! Please let me know if you have any questions or need anything from me in the meantime! -- West Virginian (talk) 00:41, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

WikiCup 2017 September newsletter

Round 4 of the WikiCup has ended and we move forward into the final round. In round 4, a total of 12 FAs, 3 FLs, 44 GAs, 3 FLs, 79 DYKs, 1 ITN and 42 GARs was achieved, with no FPs or FTs this time. Congratulations to Peacemaker67 on the Royal Yugoslav Navy Good Topic of 36 items, and the 12 featured articles achieved by Cas Liber (5), Vanamonde93 (3), Peacemaker67 (2), Adityavagarwal (1) and 12george1 (1). With a FA scoring 200 points, and bonus points available on top of this, FAs are likely to feature heavily in the final round. Meanwhile Yellow Evan, a typhoon specialist, was contributing 12 DYKs and 10 GAs, while Adityavagarwal and Freikorp topped the GAR list with 8 reviews each. As we enter the final round, we are down to eight contestants, and we would like to thank those of you who have been eliminated for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. The lowest score needed to reach round 5 was 305, and I think we can expect a highly competitive final round.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck, and let the best man (or woman) win! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 06:25, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXVII, September 2017

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Welcome back!

Hello, West Virginian – I'd been wondering where you were. I'm glad to see you're back. I hope you've been well. Congratulations on Literary Hall being scheduled for TFA.  – Corinne (talk) 00:50, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Corinne, thank you so much for your kind words and for the welcome back! I have been slowly making my way through my draft articles and moving them onto the main space. I will be writing some new articles on historic places, so I hope you’ll do me the honor of copy editing them as they become ready! —West Virginian (talk) 13:41, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
I'd be glad to. Just let me know.  – Corinne (talk) 16:36, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Rename/merge categories

Please see my proposal to speedily merge or rename these categories from “athletes” to “people” for these four states, as the subcategories for 17 of the 21 states use “people”, Hugo999 (talk) 05:03, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Literary Hall

I have raised a query regarding the above on the Main Page Talkpage. I am puzzled by the claim that the original grant of land was awarded by Charles II in 1649 and renewed by him in 1688. The former is possible, but given he was in exile in 1649 and England was ruled by his father's opponents, I would be interested in how he had the actual power to make such a grant. The later claim does not seem possible, given that Charles died in 1685. Apologies if I have misunderstood something, and I acknowledge I don't have the cited sources, but it doesn't seem quite right. Regards. KJP1 (talk) 06:20, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

KJP1, thank you again for bringing this issue to my attention! I will be incorporating the modifications we discussed on the Literary Hall talk page, and I hope you don’t mind if I reach out to you for further review and guidance! —West Virginian (talk) 13:32, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
By all means - but I see you have Brian advising and I'd go with him over me any day! KJP1 (talk) 18:50, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2017 November newsletter: Final results

The final round of the 2017 WikiCup is over. Congratulations to the 2017 WikiCup top three finalists:

In addition to recognizing the achievements of the top finishers and everyone who worked hard to make it to the final round, we also want to recognize those participants who were most productive in each of the WikiCup scoring categories:

  • Featured Article – Cas Liber (actually a two-way tie with themselves for an astonishing five FAs in R2 and R4).
  • Good Article – Adityavagarwal had 14 GAs promoted in R5.
  • Featured List – Canada Bloom6132 (submissions) and Japan 1989 (submissions) both produced 2 FLs in R2
  • Featured Pictures – Cascadia SounderBruce (submissions) improved an image to FP status in R5, the only FP this year.
  • Featured Topic – Denmark MPJ-DK (submissions) has the only FT of the Cup in R3.
  • Good Topic – Four different editors created a GT in R2, R3 and R4.
  • Did You Know – Adityavagarwal had 22 DYKs on the main page in R5.
  • In The News – India MBlaze Lightning (submissions) had 14 ITN on the main page in R2.
  • Good Article Review – India Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (submissions) completed 31 GARs in R1.

Over the course of the 2017 WikiCup the following content was added or improved on Wikipedia: 51 Featured Articles, 292 Good Articles, 18 Featured Lists, 1 Featured Picture, 1 Featured Topics, 4 Good Topics, around 400 Did You Knows, 75 In The News, and 442 Good Article Reviews. Thank you to all the competitors for your hard work and what you have done to improve Wikipedia.

Regarding the prize vouchers - @Adityavagarwal, Vanamonde93, Casliber, Bloom6132, 1989, and SounderBruce: please send Godot13 (talk · contribs · email) an email from the email address to which you would like your Amazon voucher sent. Please include your preference of global Amazon marketplace as well. We hope to have the electronic gift cards processed and sent within a week.

We will open up a discussion for comments on process and scoring in a few days. The 2018 WikiCup is just around the corner! Many thanks from all the judges. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), and Godot13 (talk · contribs · email) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:41, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXIX, November 2017

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WikiCup 2018

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DYK nomination of Olga FitzGeorge

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DYK for Archibald Wager

On 26 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Archibald Wager, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Archibald Wager served as the Clerk of Court for three colonial Virginia counties? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Archibald Wager. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Archibald Wager), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Olga FitzGeorge

Thank you for yet another wonderful copyedit, Corinne! -- West Virginian (talk) 03:07, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
You are welcome. I will get to that other article you asked me about perhaps tomorrow. I just want to mention (once again) that in the Olga FitzGeorge article, I removed the commas following initial prepositional phrases of "In + year". Unless a parenthetical phrase (enclosed in a pair of commas) appears after the prepositional phrase, I don't think the comma is needed either for comprehension or as a guide to pronunciation. (I also don't think it even reflects pronunciation in normal speech.) It is a stylistic choice, and I choose the more modern way. If you really prefer the comma, let me know and I'll put them back in. I also wonder about one thing. In this article you often give the birth and death dates of individuals, enclosed in parentheses after the name. I notice that the birth and death dates are separated by a spaced en-dash. I substituted the template {{snd}} (spaced en-dash) for the en-dash, which will ensure that, if the dates need to break at the end of a line, they will break after the en-dash instead of before the en-dash. I suppose a spaced en-dash rather than an unspaced en-dash is needed because the full dates, not just the years, are given. I wonder, though, whether the full dates are needed, or whether they are an unnecessary detail and a distraction. Perhaps just the years would suffice, separated by an unspaced en-dash.
By the way, I was really surprised to see you working on an article about a member of the English nobility. I had been so used to seeing you working on articles dealing with U.S. history, especially the history of West Virginia. How did you get interested in the story of Olga FitzGeorge? How did you like the way she left FitzGeorge and then ended up back in their house, and then she filed for divorce on the grounds that he abandoned her? Wily lady.  – Corinne (talk) 03:26, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
Corinne, I self-admittedly overindulge in commas, so please always feel free to remove them if they are superfluous. I can definitely go a bit overboard sometimes! As for the birth and death dates in parentheses, I will sometimes add these for close family members, spouses, and children to provide temporal context. I am also fine with whichever dash you feel looks and works best! Much of my early work on Wikipedia dealt with royalty and nobility, and I especially have a soft spot for the nobility born of unequal marriages. They end up leading rather interesting lives, but because they lack titles, they go without coverage on Wikipedia. I saw her name in black, and felt it ought to be blue! Ms. FitzGeorge was definitely a character, and I also liked how after her second marriage, she allegedly ran off with Mr. Clark Kennedy and conveniently went to Jamaica during his divorce proceedings with his second wife. The next time I am in London, I will be sure to visit New Bond Street so I can be photographed where her manicure salon once was to pay my respects! As you can see, I have now returned to my beloved West Virginia topics! -- West Virginian (talk) 04:23, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Olga FitzGeorge

On 2 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Olga FitzGeorge, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Olga FitzGeorge (pictured), a granddaughter of Prince George, Duke of Cambridge, established a manicure and beauty salon on New Bond Street in London? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Olga FitzGeorge. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Olga FitzGeorge), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Hello buddy!

Hello, my friend West Virginian!! Nice to see you back in action. How are things with you? Good I hope. BTW, I have nominated Steve McQueen filmography (the actor, not the director) for FLC here. Feel free to leave comments. Thanks.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 12:54, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Vanakkam, Ssven2 thambi! It is great to be back in action here at Wikipedia, and to see you are still creating wonderful articles. I don't know how long I will be back for, but I am trying to expand as many articles as I can in the meantime! I am looking forward to returning to Chennai in January! -- My first time back in Tamil Nadu since Amma's passing :( -- Thank you so much for sharing your FLC with me! I won't be able to review it this evening, but I promise that I will give it my full attention within the next few days! As always, it's an honor to review your work! -- West Virginian (talk) 03:45, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

WV state parks

You've done a great job expanding the List of West Virginia state parks article. I do have one suggestion, though. You've added a lot of footnotes. Is there a way the text can be better integrated into the body of this article, or perhaps if appropriate, articles about the individual parks? I think it would help improve readability. Thanks for your efforts! Keep up the good work. Bitmapped (talk) 03:18, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Hey there, Bitmapped! Thank you so much for your kind words, and for sharing your suggestions with me! The FLC editors usually like very succinct lead paragraphs, so I initially packed a lot of content into the footnotes to keep the paragraphs themselves smaller. I just made a few edits to the lead that should slim down the explanatory notes section at the bottom. Please take another look at the list and let me know if there is anything else you would recommend. Once the list has been approved, I will begin working on creating articles for the red links and crafting expansions for the smaller park articles. Thanks again! -- West Virginian (talk) 03:41, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewing

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As one of Wikipedia's most experienced Wikipedia editors,
Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After gaining the flag, patrolling is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the tutorial before making your decision. Thanks. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 09:56, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Minor edits

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Thank you for the reminder, Celia Homeford. It was a minor edit, because no review was necessary. The photo that had been removed was FitzGeorge’s father, and not her uncle. — West Virginian (talk) 13:00, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Her father was Adolphus not Augustus. Augustus was her uncle. You can see her father in the image in the infobox. Celia Homeford (talk) 13:02, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Celia Homeford, I was the primary author of this article, and this photograph had been previously labeled as being Adolphus, and not her uncle Augustus. This is good to know, because I will be working on an article for Augustus next. Thank you for the notification, and correction! — West Virginian (talk) 13:10, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXL, December 2017

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Romney Classical Institute

Hello West Virginian:

I am in the process of working on the c/e of this article. I ran across two items that I'm drawing to your attention.

In the Hiatus section it says that Nelson relocated to Cumberland. He appears to have spent a year or less trying to revive the institute. Did he leave because he was unsuccessful? Since he owned the institute did he sell it?

Twofingered Typist, unfortunately this is not clear or omitted in the available references. I will be working in a separate article for Nelson following the FAC process for this one, and should I find the answer I will update this article accordingly. Do you have any suggestions how we could improve upon the text with this omission? -- West Virginian (talk) 20:57, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

"The society discovered that to make good on its promise, it had to raise more than $1,000…" Does this refer to the "good repair" in the Society’s offer discussed in the previous paragraph—or something else?

Twofingered Typist, the sources are not clear but I have always assumed (without reference) that the facilities probably required some minimal upgrades to meet the Board's requirements for a state-level institution. Again, I am open to your suggestions on how to deal with this lack of specificity in the prose! -- West Virginian (talk) 20:57, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

I've also noticed there are a number of fairly short statements with three or more citations. I point this out because it might be worth your while to check that this can't be labelled Citation overkill when the article is reviewed as a FAC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_overkill

Twofingered Typist, I will go through this evening and try to trim down the inline citations to a maximum of three. Thank you for the suggestion! -- West Virginian (talk) 20:57, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

I should be able to finish the copy edit tomorrow.

Oh, I hope you don't mind, I moved the images in a way I hope makes the page more balanced to the eye. It is an easy revert if you don't agree.

Twofingered Typist (talk) 21:38, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Romney Classical Institute

Hello:

I reordered the sentences at the end of the Hiatus section and added a clarification I think works under the circumstances.

As to the money raising - the school had been closed for 3-4 years, and I assume vacant, so I think it is reasonable to assume it needed some repairs so I have added "presumably for repairs" to cover this.

In your request for the c/e at the GOCE, you were wondering about the article's organization. I think the way you wrote it is the only logical way to present the information. I notice that an earlier version of the article was copy edited by Corinne. She has an MA in English and is a professional editor of the first order. I'm sure if she had problems with the organization she would have suggested ways it might be improved.

The article is now tagged with my GOCE tag and my part of the c/e is done.

Do let me know if I can help in any other way.

21:29, 15 December 2017 (UTC)


Click Login, it will pick up your user name. The, where it says "Run Bot" click on "fix a single page". Copy the article's title and click the add archives box. The process will then run—it can take a few minutes—and a list of changes will appear that have been added to the article. You have to refresh the article to see them in the reference section. It's a great tool.Twofingered Typist (talk) 16:14, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Twofingered Typist! Over the past few years, I have learned to automatically save archive links for my references, but I was not so smart in my older articles! This tool will help me go back and ensure those sources are all in working order! Thank you! -- West Virginian (talk) 16:20, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

GA request

Hi, do you have some time to review Oppam for GA ? Let There Be Sunshine (talk) 13:40, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Let There Be Sunshine, I am so sorry that I have not been able to get to this review quite yet! And I thank you for the opportunity to review--which is an incredible honor. I will have some free time this weekend, so if the article has not been snatched up by another editor by then, I would absolutely love to review it! -- West Virginian (talk) 20:49, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you West Virginian :) Merry Christmas. Let There Be Sunshine (talk) 08:02, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas to all!

We wish you a Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year 2018!
Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas, and a Happy, Glorious, Prosperous New Year! God bless!  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 10:33, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Ssven2, thank you so much for the Christmas greetings! Here's wishing you a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays in return! I am looking to celebrating Pongal in Chennai next month! -- West Virginian (talk) 20:42, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Its really pleasing to see you embracing Indian, particularly Tamil, culture. You might even know more about it than I do.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 07:04, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Marshall S. Cornwell

Hello:

The copy edit that you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Marshall S. Cornwell has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Best of luck with the GA review.

Happy holidays!

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 12:58, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Twofingered Typist, thank you so much for this wonderful copyedit! I appreciate you taking the time to improve the flow and overall quality of this article, as you always do! Happy Holidays to you, too! -- West Virginian (talk) 20:41, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Holiday Greetings

Holiday greetings and Best

Wishes for a very Happy New Year.
Cheers!!
Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:22, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Booker T. Washington State Park (West Virginia)


Hello, West Virginian – You can see that I have completed the copy-edit you requested for Booker T. Washington State Park (West Virginia). I wanted to ask you about two things in one sentence. It is this sentence, which appears in the second paragraph in the Booker T. Washington State Park (West Virginia)#Park establishment and operation section:

  • By 1949 private citizens had donated 7.43 acres (3.01 ha) of deciduous forest land outside the largely African American community of Institute to the Division of State Parks for the construction of an African American recreational area.

1a) Since, in the conversion of acres to hectares, the hectares came out at 3.01 hectares, I wonder if you think it would be a good idea to round the hectare figure off so that it comes out as 3 hectares (or 3.0 hectares). If so, you can add something to the conversion template. See the "Rounding" section at Template:Convert. Use either "Round to a given precision" or "Round to a given number of significant figures". It's your call, though.

1b) I changed "of land of deciduous forest" to "of deciduous forest land". I hope you feel that is an improvement. I was even thinking that "of deciduous forest" would be sufficient, and accurate. It would then read:

  • By 1949 private citizens had donated 7.43 acres (3.01 ha) of deciduous forest outside the largely African American community of Institute to the Division of State Parks for the construction of an African American recreational area.

What do you think? Which do you prefer? – "of deciduous forest" or "of deciduous forest land"? (or what you had there originally)?

2) The second sentence of the second paragraph in the lead reads:

  • Booker T. Washington was integrated shortly after the Brown v. Board of Education decision by the United States Supreme Court in May 1954.

I know that "Booker T. Washington" really means "Booker T. Washington State Park", but for American readers, at least, when they read "Booker T. Washington", they will first think of the person, and of course "Booker T. Washington [the person] was integrated" doesn't make sense. I believe that readers will get used to seeing "Booker T. Washington" later in the article and know that it means the park, but here, I wonder if you would consider saying "The park was integrated shortly after..." instead of "Booker T. Washington was integrated shortly after..." Just a thought.

3) In the third paragraph in the lead you have this sentence:

  • In 1949 the West Virginia Conservation Commission Division of State Parks opened Booker T. Washington State Park, which was named for African American educator and West Virginia native Booker T. Washington.

I feel that the string of words "West Virginia Conservation Commission Division of State Parks" is a bit unwieldy, particularly the juxtaposition of "Commission" and "Division" ("Commission Division"). I wonder if you would consider, at least here if not later in the article, breaking this up and writing "the Division of State Parks of the West Virginia Conservation Commission" (or adding a comma after "Commission" "the West Virginia Conservation Commission, Division of State Parks") (I prefer the former). I suppose, though, if the agency was known by that string of words, we've got to use it.

  • Corinne, because this is the full proper title of the division within the commission I've gone ahead and added the comma to every usage of the entire term. Let me know how this works! I know the entire term is a bit unwieldy but I wanted to make sure I used the proper naming convention. It certainly doesn't roll off the tongue, that is for sure! -- West Virginian (talk) 02:58, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Hello, West Virginian – I saw that the phrase "Division of State Parks" was missing the second comma in several places so I added it. If you use a comma before the phrase, you've got to use a comma after the phrase. I read what you said about it being the official name, but wouldn't it also be correct to say "the Division of State Parks of the West Virginia Conservation Commission"? If that is correct, then "the West Virginia Conservation Commission's Division of State Parks" would also be correct and could be used to vary the sentence structure, perhaps after first mention. I think these are more normal ways of saying it than "West Virginia Conservation Commission, Division of State Parks".  – Corinne (talk) 17:22, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

4) The first sentence of the second paragraph of the Booker T. Washington State Park (West Virginia)#Area history section is:

First, I suggest you read the short article False title. The modifiers preceding "George Washington" is an example of a "false title". It is considered by some to be journalistic writing. Others, particularly American readers, find it acceptable. I just wanted to point it out to you and ask you to give it some thought. One way to avoid this is to add the definite article "the" before "French and Indian War veteran", but, as you'll see in the article, William Safire says this sounds odd to American ears. Another way to avoid using the false title would be to put the modifiers after the name, as follows:

You can leave the sentence as it is, and probably no one will say anything, or you can choose one of the two alternatives I mentioned, preferably the second one. I'm interested to hear what you think, and what sounds best to you.

Hello, West Virginian. I was thinking it would sound better as: "a recent veteran of the French and Indian War". Then I thought it would sound even better as:
"George Washington, recently returned from fighting in the French and Indian War,...
What do you think?  – Corinne (talk) 22:17, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Corinne, thank you so much! I just modified it per your guidance! -- West Virginian (talk) 05:35, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
O.K. Great! Looks good. See below.  – Corinne (talk) 21:27, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

5) The first sentence of the lead is as follows:

I know that "Institute" is linked to an article about the town, and that it should be obvious that it is a town since it is followed by "in the U.S. state of West Virginia", but because it is so rare to have a town named with a word that means a type of organization, it might be helpful to readers to add "the town of", "the small town of", or "the community of" before "Institute". Not absolutely necessary. Just a thought. Well, that's all. Best regards,  – Corinne (talk) 02:16, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

I pinged you, but don't know if you got the ping. See User:Corinne/sandbox#Checking something regarding the conversion template.  – Corinne (talk) 21:28, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
Corinne, thank you for your suggestions! I've been experimenting with these templates to see which of template modifications work best. I made a few edits per your suggestions. Thanks again! -- West Virginian (talk) 06:19, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

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Morgan Morgan Monument


Hello, West Virginian – If there is anything in my edits you disagree with or don't understand, please let me know. I wanted to ask you about something. At the beginning of the article, you had "also known as Morgan Park" in parentheses after "The Morgan Morgan Monument". At first, (in edit mode) I did not see the close parenthesis, so I changed it to a phrase enclosed in two commas. Then I saw the close parenthesis (but forgot to remove it until later). I changed it to commas partly because I didn't see the close parenthesis but partly also because I think commas are easier to read and break up the flow of the sentence less than do parentheses. I also vaguely remember learning several years ago from a visually disabled editor that parentheses slow down visually disabled readers more than commas. Perhaps we could ask Graham87 about this.

I don't know if "also known as" phrases that appear right after the initial term at the beginning of articles are usually in parentheses, or sometimes in parentheses and sometimes in a pair of commas.

Later in the article, at the beginning of the Morgan Morgan Monument#Geography and setting section, you have the same phrases. I decided to leave the parentheses for comparison's sake. Once it is decided which type of punctuation to use, we've got to make the two instances consistent with each other. Of course, your own preference is important, too.

2) Do you remember that long phrase we discussed with regard to another article, "the West Virginia Conservation Commission Division of State Parks"? We discussed writing either:

  • the Division of State Parks of the West Virginia Conservation Commission, or
  • the West Virginia Conservation Commission, Division of State Parks

(or leaving it as it was).

You selected the second option, adding a comma after "Commission". This time, it occurred to me to add an apostrophe s after "Commission", so I did that throughout the article. If you think that is inaccurate, or you just don't like it, I'd be glad to go through and remove it and replace it either with nothing or with the comma. Just let me know. If you think it is accurate, and you like the apostrophe s, we can go back to the other article and change the comma to the apostrophe s.

3) At the end of the second paragraph in Morgan Morgan Monument#Geography and setting, I wonder whether you think the distance between the monument and the Inwood Quarry needs to be so precise: 3,255.7 feet. What would you think of rounding this off to 3,255 feet or 3,256 feet? It's really up to you.  – Corinne (talk) 17:05, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Corinne, you are absolutely correct and I've gone ahead and rounded up. I make the measurements using Google Earth and the topographic maps, and then I round after I get the initial measurement. This one somehow got through, and I thank you for addressing it! -- West Virginian (talk) 15:09, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
Yes, commas are better for screen reader users; parentheses aren't read at all by default. Graham87 05:19, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
Corinne and Graham87, Happy New Year's Eve to you both and thank you for taking the time to weigh in here. Corinne, I just saw your comments after your wonderful copyedit and I am beginning to address them as we speak! -- West Virginian (talk) 14:08, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination

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WV Barnstar!!

The West Virginia Barnstar
A barnstar for your work on the List of Parks in West Virginia and it becoming a FL!!! Thanks for your work to improve Wikipedia's coverage of West Virginia topics.

Coal town guy (talk) 22:45, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

  • Coal town guy, thank you tremendously for this esteemed honor! There are so many articles and lists that I would like to write about West Virginia topics—if only I had more time in a day! Thank you for continuing your tireless effort to ensure that every West Virginia place has an article and that their story is shared with the world! Thanks again, sir! — West Virginian (talk) 14:45, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Anbe Sivam/archive1

Hello, West Virginian. I have nominated my first solo FAC. Do let me know if you wish to leave comments at the FAC by pinging me. Thanks.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 13:05, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

  • Good day Ssven2! Thank you so much for sharing your FAC nomination with me! Your article is superb and very comprehensive, and upon first glance, it meets all of the FA criteria. When I have more time this week I will perform a review and will share my comments at the FAC page. I have seen this movie, too! I will definitely review it before I leave for Chennai next week. Thank you so much for all your continued hard work and dedication to Wikipedia and Indian cinema! — West Virginian (talk) 14:50, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
That's very kind of you, West Virginian. I planned on nominating it sometime in the beginning of last year or possibly mid-year. Circumstances in real life prevented me from doing so. Now I've managed to get the chance.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 14:53, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

The article has been promoted to FA. My first solo FA.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 14:43, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Ssven2, congratulations on this amazing accomplishment! I am so proud of you! I am sorry I was not able to review this prior to my trip to Chennai, but I look forward to your next nomination! -- West Virginian (talk) 20:40, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
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