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Yapperbot left me 10, read it, 10 Good Article Nominations to review on one day. This is what happens when the script server has a hiccup and gets restarted in the middle of the month. Yapperbot goes around handing out the gladly, (bit late for Christmas, I do say)...

"Language and literature" Good Article nominations

Talk:Antique Bakery Passed

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"Philosophy and religion" Good Article nominations

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Thank you very much for your time and thorough review of Mahadevi Varma. Your suggestions have helped to improve the article and it is very much appreciated. — Amkgp 💬 07:11, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for all the help now can you help on getting my article approved?

Hey - I listened to what you said and tried finding all the links about the artist.

can you please help on getting this article approved? -- Bobby lee swagger (talk) 03:20, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Whiteguru

Thanks for the kitten award that day and reviewing my few pages, can I request you to look into this page? It has been in the draft since 22 December 2020 WP:NMUSIC notability met. Draft:Shadab_Siddiqui --Static Hash (talk) 15:07, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks... a lot

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		Thank you so much for reviewing Los Ronaldos article, they were one of the best bands of the 80's and early 90's with powerful rock and fun, sparkling songs. Coque Malla was their leader, he is still making great music. --Miskito89 (talk) 18:25, 28 January 2021 (UTC)--Miskito89 (talk) 18:25, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: Language and literature Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at [[Talk:Hush'd Be the Camps To-Day|Talk:Hush'd Be the Camps To-Day Reviewing request.

Due review of Walt Whitman's lectures on Abraham Lincoln, this requests presents a possible COI. Hence, under consideration. --Whiteguru (talk) 17:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

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Conway Christ Redneck Superstar

Hi Whiteguru, Thanks for the feedback. You have placed the template for "notability for music". However, as this was a theatre production, the topic is therefore theatre not music, and accordingly I believe it is incorrect to use that template. I have amended the page to clarify the topic. If you have a moment please remove the template. Thanks for your help. Annepatriciajones (talk) 01:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification, however, the template is about the topic of music not musicals. I agree that musicals is the correct category and therefore notability in relation to music is inappropriate. I'll do my best to improve the article.Annepatriciajones (talk) 04:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Annepatriciajones I thank you for your courtesy, and I thank you for your determination. --Whiteguru (talk) 04:36, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

About "List of number-one songs of 2018 (Turkey)"

@Whiteguru:

I just received your message. It's nice to be appreciated.

About your complaint: Citing the sources takes a long time for me (about 2 to 3 hours for a whole page) and I'm too lazy for that. I will do it when I get unbusy, maybe in Summer. Because I'm getting prepared for an exam, which will decide on the university I'll go to. I hope you understand it. Thank you.

Pinchface05 (talk) 07:45, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

@Pinchface05: Lot of work, as I said. Granted, Uni exams are important, I went through that too. OTOH, I also spend up to three or more hours on music articles, so I can understand. I'll put this on my watchlist and look for the page during Summer. --Whiteguru (talk) 07:51, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

@Whiteguru: ¼ of work is done by now (October-December). I'll keep informate you as I update it. --Pinchface05 (talk) 12:30, 10 February 2021 (TRT)

@Pinchface05: I have taken a look; good work. Ta --Whiteguru (talk) 09:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

E.V.A.

Much of the information in the article E.V.A. was transferred to the article Jean-Jacques Perrey. --Germanico5468504 (talk) 16:30, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Live/Backstage at the Coffee Gallery

Hi. I noticed that Live/Backstage at the Coffee Gallery is proposed for deletion. Please help me understand: where do you see monkeeslivealmanac.com listed as a source? AllMusic is currently listed as a source. Also, explain to me how this album is insignificant compared to, say, Waiting for Spring, which also lacks significant sources no more or less than this one? [[Wk3v78k23tnsa (talk) 16:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Reviewing articles

Hi! Since you reviewed this article, can you review this one and this one as well? I'm confused whether these articles fulfill the WP:NMUSIC or not. Thank you! Byy2 (talk) 12:35, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

@Byy2: Hello. A word to the wise about your editing the sentence above. You can get yourself into a lot of bother by changing things, in the same previous edit. Best thing to do is to start a new line or sentence prefixed by : or :: as the case may be. You will find that this indents the line and makes it easier to read new edits.

@Byy2: WP:NMUSIC basically requires independent, reliable secondary sources to provide notability to a musician. A musician (or singer)(or band) website or Youtube page - or Facebook page - or Weibo - is generally treated as a primary source. This means it cannot be accepted as a reference supplying notability for the article. I hope this helps. --Whiteguru (talk) 23:46, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@Byy2: The notability tag ViVi (singer) stays on the page because most of the links given are about the group, or Loona⅓ ... these don't count. What is needed is independent, reliable, secondary reviews of Vivi. Group pages, photo shoots, youtube, charts and discography are not of any use. The article still requires notability. --Whiteguru (talk) 00:02, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

@Byy2: About OED or Loona Odd Eye Circle: articles about members of the group are not articles about the group OED or Loona Odd Eye Circle (which does not get mentioned in individual reviews). The group needs notability, not the individual members. Some references will not translate to English using Google translate. So all the links about Girl of the Month are basically not adding any notability. And while the group has a program of revealing new members each month, the group has to establish notabilty as specified in WP:NMUSIC So we get to the three youtubes, these establish there is a group, and then the first interview that establishes the group comes. All other links before this DONT COUNT. The charts are minor additions to notability. I have edited the article as it *just* meets WP:NMUSIC. It would be meet and fitting if you were to improve the article and find some more articles / interviews / reviews of the group OED or Loona Odd Eye Circle. Not the individual members. --Whiteguru (talk) 00:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

@Whiteguru: Thank you for answering! It really helped me, I'm going to try to come up with something then. --Byy2 (talk) 01:11, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

@Whiteguru: Sorry, one more thing, what thing that makes this article notable that this page doesn't have? --Byy2 (talk) 04:37, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

@Byy2: The group OED or Loona Odd Eye Circle (not girl of the month) needs one more long review or interview. --Whiteguru (talk) 05:18, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

D 812 (Schubert)

Thanks for your work in reviewing Sonata in C major for piano four-hands, D 812 (Schubert). I understand this is now a "WP:GA" wotsit, having performed many jumps through multiple hoops; am I supposed to be persuaded that it is actually a good article? I'm not, because the one question you don't seem to have asked (probably not in the List of Hoops) is "Is the majority of the article about the purported topic?" The topic is a piece of music, but all we get is a tiny section in the middle, just a "list of movements". I'm sorry, I could write a long critique, which would be mostly negative, but I really meant just to ask: is there normally any discussion after these decisions, and where? Please respond here, but the substantive issue is not really about you at all. Thanks. Imaginatorium (talk) 07:31, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

I have the same question. I don't believe that an article about a composition can be a Good article without at least a bit about the music, even if there are no written rules about it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:47, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Waiting ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:41, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

The correct place for your observations about Good Article Reviews is here. --Whiteguru (talk) 21:04, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I am old-fashioned and always try to speak to a user first before following procedures. At least you pointed me at the correct place ;) - the other user suggested the article talk. Our question is serious, and perhaps an article about a composition can be a Good article when the topic of it's music - which I believe would be the key part - is barely touched, - I'd still like your point of view but understand if you have more important things to do. Perhaps the question was worded a bit to pointed, - I apologize if you think so. You could still answer the more polite question by Imaginatorium. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: I appreciate your courtesy, and your old-world manners. Would that it were that there were more so inclined. If I look to past classical compositions in GA Classical Compositions Reviews completed, I find articles selected at random have a movements section, similar to that in Schubert 815D

See, inter alia, (at random)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erw%C3%BCnschtes_Freudenlicht,_BWV_184

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ach_wie_fl%C3%BCchtig,_ach_wie_nichtig,_BWV_26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nun_jauchzt_dem_Herren,_alle_Welt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahrlich,_wahrlich,_ich_sage_euch,_BWV_86

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallt_mit_Danken,_fallt_mit_Loben,_BWV_248_IV#Movements

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnificat_in_E-flat_major,_BWV_243a#Movements

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sie_werden_euch_in_den_Bann_tun,_BWV_183#Structure_and_scoring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violin_Concerto_(Mendelssohn)#Movements (which is somewhat fulsome) and, at random,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wood_Nymph#Structure

All found clicking away at random.

My sensus plenior is that the movements sections are comparable, and that the article on D 812 (Schubert) is relatively robust when compared to these other - selected at random. Only Mendelssohn's Violin Concerto has examples of music from the compositions. While I may recommend inclusion of music pieces as sound files on a Good Article nomination under the guise of improving the article, the nominee would be perfectly at rights to demur. It is evident that other reviewers over time - in this category - have not made similar demand. It is clearly not a requirement.

I thank you for your kind iteration. --Whiteguru (talk) 08:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for a detailed response. Interesting that of your random selection, I wrote most (all but 2). Perhaps we don't yet talk about the same thing. I don't mean audio examples, which I actually most often think clutter the text. I mean details about the music, beyond a mere table. Example Magnificat in E-flat major, BWV 243a, we have a table of the movements, but also details for the individual movements below it. In the Schubert, we have no table, but short paragraphs containing practically technical data such as tempos, keys, markings, - that gives me no idea why this music is regarded as a pinnacle. I believe that a reader who has only time for that section should get that idea, and not being forced to digest the load of historical commentary and reception. See the Wood Nymph (not by me). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarity of response. I'll take that as a learning curve. --Whiteguru (talk) 09:24, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Here's another chance (not by me): Short Symphony, GAN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

(With regard to your suggestion, it is GAN Drive month, and I may not be able to respond to your suggestion, nonetheless, I shall note your courtesy.

(ec) Whiteguru, I'd be wary to learn anything from Gerda's (or Imaginatorium's) comments above. A list of movements in tabular format makes sense for vocal compositions with over five movements where each movement has a different text and a different set of performers. Such tables are, for instance, included in my GAs BWV 243 and Magnificat (Torri). For purely instrumental compositions, with a limited set of movements and no lyrics to be mentioned for each of the movements, and where each movement is performed by the same musicians (e.g., in the Sonata's case, each movement being played by two pianists at a single piano), such table mostly doesn't make much sense. Is there *any* GA for such a composition with a table of movements (the Mendelssohn violin concerto article doesn't have it)? Then the critics fall over their own words, reproaching that the music description of the Sonata's article is a mere "list of movements" (which it isn't) and that it doesn't have such a list of movements (while there is no table). And so we could go on, and on: seems like throwing as much mud at the wall as possible, in the hope something would stick.

IMHO, the underlying problem has a different nature. Afaics, Gerda kind of has the habit to present articles for GA that are far from ready to be approved as such. Then, quite evidently, they receive long lists of remarks on the state of the article, and they have hardly the time to resolve all of that within the projected week a GAC assessment and fine-tuning should last. I did the same on my first two GACs a long time ago (the second failing for that reason), and then I learned from that: don't present an article for GAC before it is quite ready to be promoted as such. My last two GACs passed with little or no remarks, so I think I learned well, and didn't squander the time of my fellow Wikipedians by presenting them something which at least needs a few hours to compile a list of remarks on, and much more time before all issues are settled. So, I'd invite the critics above to stop their knee-jerk reaction on my most recent GA passing in due time without needing a second pass after the reviewer's comments. The article's talk page can be used for further improvement suggestions, and frankly, I'd be happy to learn your ideas on what further improvements or intermediate steps might be recommended if we want to take the article to a next level such as FAC. --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

comment on deleted material. --Francis Schonken (talk) 12:37, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Seeing your intent to delete this (after edit conflict), I have no reserve against deleting my comment above in the same pass! --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Francis Schonken: Thank you. I appreciate your observations and never doubted your integrity. --Whiteguru (talk) 11:17, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

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Hello,

You just passed Jacinda Ardern, and I do think it's close to meeting the criteria. While I believe there was too much WP:Proseline for the article to pass immediately, it's your choice of course as the primary reviewer.

It seemed however you were confusing two criteria in your review. The well-written mostly refers to prose and compliance with the manual of style, whereas you were noting various aspect of the 'broad in its coverage' criteria.

A further consideration for future reviews is to use fewer section headings, as the GA review is transcluded on the talk page, and is taking up a very big chunk of the table of content, making navigation difficult. By saying so much about what is good about the article, it was difficult to understand what could use improvement. FemkeMilene (talk) 19:57, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Femkemilene: Noted. With thanks. Yes, I am aware of the huge chunks of the talk page taken up. I am at present exploring other ways of presenting a review. --Whiteguru (talk) 20:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
The Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations/templates aren't bad, but simply focussing on actionable improvements (and summarising what good in a single paragraph) would also work :). FemkeMilene (talk) 20:21, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Femkemilene: I thank you for your generosity. I used one of the templates on my last review. Your comments have somewhat given cause for further reflection about the length and content of reviews, and your comments above are appreciated. --Whiteguru (talk) 21:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Might you be interested

I really appreciate your reviews of several of my GANs. Might you be interested in reviewing one more of mine (Louis William Valentine DuBourg)? It's the last one I have. Ergo Sum 02:15, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ergo Sum: Thank you for your kind comments. I'll take this, but the review itself might be a few days away. --Whiteguru (talk) 02:19, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Naoum Mokarzel

Hi there chum, thanks for taking the time to review the article <3 _Elias Z. (talkallam) 06:41, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

@Elias Ziade: Thanks. The review will be along shortly. --Whiteguru (talk) 06:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

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Closed procedurally. You may re-nominate it again if you wish. However, I would recommend using Twinkle instead of page curation since the latter tool is quite broken. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 07:54, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

@Aseleste: Understood. It got very messy, pages popped up I had never seen before with template instructions I tried to follow. In the end I could not get it to display properly on the AfD log so I removed it, knowing there would be a trail of my actions. I stopped using XFD closer last year, as it broke while I was using it. Henceforth, I shall use Twinkle. --Whiteguru (talk) 21:48, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

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Might you be interested

Hi Whiteguru, I have nominated Patrick Francis Healy for FAC. Since you were the GAN reviewer, I thought you might be able to contribute some helpful comments at FAC. Admittedly, I'm a bit wary that the nom might fail for lack of input, which would be a shame because I think Healy had such an interesting life. If you have a free moment and are interested in doing a FAC review, you'd certainly have my thanks. Ergo Sum 15:21, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

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Any Suggestions for improvement of Warsaw Radio Mast

Of course, due to suspected sockpuppetry of my account and others, it would be reasonable to take away the GA status of the Warsaw Radio Mast. However, does it fit the standard for a Good Article? Is it possible to get suggestions on how to improve it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BasedMises (talk • contribs) 01:02, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

@BasedMises: This article has lost GA status before. First, attend to the issues that caused the page to lose GA status. Thereafter, you may tag the page {{GAR request}} and another reviewer may take this up. --Whiteguru (talk) 01:06, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

It lost GA status before 2010 (im not sure when) I would just like any suggestions on impoving the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BasedMises (talk • contribs) 11:09, 22 April 2021 (UTC+10) (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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		For your great work and subsequent advice on how to improve "Magtymguly" page further and make it fit GA criteria. Appreciate your time very much.--Visioncurve^{Timendi causa est nescire} 06:02, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

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Tagging my pages

Please don't tag my pages with the notability template. Check out Book Marks for each page I create. That demonstrates notability obviously (see here for Doom, for example). Reviews from The Evening Standard, The New York Times Book Review, The Scotsman, etc. I'll have to revert all those you did. Also stop spamming my talkpage with worthless templates. Thanks. Therapyisgood (talk) 18:40, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

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Yapperbot: Feedback requests from the Feedback Request Service

Yapperbot has been at it again... here's the new summary:

"Language and literature" Good Article nominations

→ Talk:Rajesh Khanna: The Untold Story of India's First Superstar Passed (by another editor)

→ Talk:My Hero Academia Passed (by another editor)

→ Talk:The Poe Clan Passed (by another editor)

→ Talk:Rings of Power Passed (by another editor)

→ Talk:Birdsong (picture book) Passed

→ Talk:Tolkien's frame stories

→ Talk:Nadia Fink

→ Talk:England in Middle-earth

"Philosophy and religion" Good Article nominations

→ Talk:Judaism nomination reverted. See talk page history. Proposal on hold

→ Talk:Death in 19th-century Mormonism Passed

→ Talk:Pre-Socratic philosophy another editor is dealing with this

Battle of Tigranocerta

So you went on and passed the GA reassessment 6 minutes after I pinged you and posted my comments on the numerous issues of the article and without addressing any of them?--Catlemur (talk) 12:46, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

@Catlemur: There was an edit conflict. I was editing the talk page and searching the page history and talk history for the oldid. Your disagreement was not sighted until after I had completed the talk page activity. --Whiteguru (talk) 21:09, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Fair enough, are you going to reopen the review now?--Catlemur (talk) 21:11, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I will look over matters you have raised and give some thought to your suggestion. --Whiteguru (talk) 21:24, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Well?--Catlemur (talk) 17:30, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

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Happy Vesak!

Happy Vesak,
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy and Blessed Vesak to you and yours! User:JaMongKut (talk) 18:09, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

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Feedback Request: Youth Coalition for Organ Donation

Good morning. I founded The YCOD and also created the Wikipedia page for it. I don’t want there to be an issue with a conflict of interest (I declared it on my page, but I wasn’t sure what else to do). How do I fix the page to remove the page issues notes (like it being worded like an advert)? Can I fix it, or do I need to wait for another editor to do it, so it’s not a COI? I really want the page to be accurate and not a lie or an ad, and I want to solve the page issues, too. Evanroden1 (talk) 11:50, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Evanroden1 Thank you for your message of concern. I have reviewed the page and passed it for purposes of New Page Patrol. I raised declaration of COI as a matter of protecting both your good self and the article; I was not raising any deleterious matters. It is possible to revert the advertisement tag by including (and citing) more material from the media mentions referenced on the main page of your website. You have quite a quantity of media coverage on that page. Look for supportive angles, include them in the article and cite them. That is the best recommendation I may offer. Thank you. --Whiteguru (talk) 11:59, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Discontent Content Issue 4

Discontent Content Issue #4

Welcome, subscribers, to the fourth Discontent Content newsletter! Discontent Content is a newsletter aiming to collate and improve Wikipedia articles in need of more eyes and hands to get them in shape. Its unique trimodal structure allows editors to work where they feel comfortable -- with stubs and starts needing to be brought to standard, mid-quality articles with Good or Featured potential, or quality-assessed articles needing help to maintain their status.

Category 1

Articles in this category are those that need to be brought up to a minimum quality standard. Some will be stubs; others will be longer articles that nonetheless have significant concerns putting them far below B- or C-class adequacy.

This issue's Category 1 articles are:

Lineage (anthropology): A shocking subject to be a sourceless stub, this Vital 4 obviously has so much more to write about than its three sentences. In this state, even a basic improvement would do a ton.
Police memorabilia collecting: Survived AfD not long ago, with plenty of sources given in the discussion to use in the article. "Further reading" may in particular be of use.
Koror City: Palau may be a small island nation, but having its largest city by far be a stub is unacceptable. (We've managed to write much more about it over at Wikivoyage, where it's guide-class and about to make a Main Page appearance.) Vital 5 with a healthy couple hundred pageviews a day, the widespread use of English in its native land makes it a more accessible topic than editors afraid of working in countries they're unfamiliar with might worry.

Category 2

Articles in this category, while in better current shape than Category 1, are still missing something. They have the potential to be truly high-quality content, and may have been at one point. With work, they can be brought up to dizzying heights.

This issue's Category 2 articles are:

List of premature obituaries: A former FL, an eccentric and popular topic, and a refreshing change from the sports statistics and "list of awards received by X" that populate FLC. This list was demoted in 2009 for sourcing concerns, which even at the time were mentioned as potentially fixable.
War: Let's just jump straight into the Overtopics, shall we? This Vital 2 really shows what "Top-importance to the whole encyclopedia" means. Currently B-class -- more B- in my estimate, maybe -- it stands out that non-editor readers on the talk page have qualms with the scope, in particular omissions they expected to find.
The Picture of Dorian Gray: Once GA, now C. ~~Still relatable.~~ This seminal work of literature can certainly be returned to where it was.

Category 3

Articles in this category have been assessed through a content review process in the past, but may require work to be brought up to current GA/FA standard. Editors can help bring them to a level where the star or plus near their names can once again shine.

This issue's Category 3 articles are:

Byzantine Empire: From the metapedian perspective, this is perhaps our most important FA -- the oldest, promoted in 2001 (older than some of this newsletter's subscribers!), to retain FA status unbroken to the present day. Speaking exopedianly, it's still decidedly vital, with nearly three million page views in the last year. FAR was suggested late last year; it hasn't been brought to the chopping block yet, but an article this important both inside and outside of the project deserves to remain in top shape.
Underoath: This GA is recommended for GAR, with complaints about long-unaddressed maintenance tags and sections in dire need of updates. The article gets hundreds of views a day and is translated across plenty of projects.
Acute myeloid leukemia: Medical articles aren't scary! Really! They're not! If I can work on them, so can you! That aside, this FA was given a FAR notice in January. There are sourcing concerns, conveniently assisted by sources left on the talk page. Non-editor readers on the talk have raised concerns about inaccurate prognostic statements.

Letter from the Editor

This issue's reader suggestion is brought to you by Sennecaster:

Margery Wolf: Perhaps the fastest GA delist known to the project, this article was delisted two days after promotion upon discovery of foundational copyvio. Though it was reduced to just four short paragraphs, the sourcing obviously exists to create a high-quality article.

Yes, I know I said I was going to switch to monthly. Let's just go "Vat doesn't really Get Time" and run with it.

The Core Contest is on its last day of entries, and I've picked articles here with an eye to that. It's the first time it's running since 2017, and I for one am looking forward to overhauling Prehistoric religion. If you feel inspired by anything here, get in there quick!
Vaticidalprophet 17:06, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

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Indrani

I have corrected the raised concerns. However, there is one problem regarding sources. Please check. Regards,.245CMR.•^👥📜 07:17, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Sorted, here --Whiteguru (talk) 07:37, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

I just check again and found that Shach (speech) is different from Sach (truth). .245CMR.•^👥📜 08:10, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

245CMR Sathyam vada; Priyam vada! --Whiteguru (talk) 09:02, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

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Page review

Thanks for reviewing The Ramayana School. Can you please review Sakshi Malik (actor) and add your comments? --Sankoswal (talk) 17:36, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

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