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Latavius Murray
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To follow up on your change on Latavius Murray, which I've reverted, he's considered to have been part of the team for a portion of the 2021 season and his career history in the infobox should reflect that. Players who made a practice squad or participate in pre-season games are meant to have that team listed in their career history. Murray played for the Saints in the 2021 pre-season and made the final roster. The deadline for roster cuts was August 31 @ 3 PM CT, whereas Murray was cut on September 7th. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:41, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- You're going to have to change a lot of player's infoboxes if that is your interpretation. Sure Murray made the initial roster but he was cut before the Saints' first game. By the time the Saints played their first game Murray was a member of the Ravens. WikiSports2016 (talk) 00:30, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- That's literally not how it works. Hey man im josh (talk) 03:44, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- That is your opinion and/or interpretation. If you believe that so strongly then you have a lot of player's infoboxes to fix. And I'm pretty sure you are wrong anyways. But again, Murray was literally on a different team's roster when the Saints played their first game. WikiSports2016 (talk) 06:11, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- @WikiSports2016, please explain to me why you're selectively applying this idea? You made an edit on D. J. Hayden adding 2022 to his career history for the Washington Commanders when he was cut on April 8th, 5 months earlier than Murray was cut by the Saints. How does it make sense to mark a player as part of a team for the 2022 season when they're cut in April, but remove the year for a player who was cut on September 7th, made the 53 man roster, and played in the pre-season games? As you're well aware, there is a designation for players who were on a squad during the preseason. Murray has recorded stats from playing in the 2021 pre-season games for the Saints, meaning he should be listed. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:03, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- You are wrong. D.J. Hayden was edited to 2022 because he was a practice squad member of the Commanders in 2021, signed a reserve/future contract for 2022 and was released in April after the 2022 NFL league year started. Hayden was never on the active roster for the Commanders otherwise his infobox would just say 2021. Instead it says 2021-2022 with an asterisk to note that he was a practice squad/off-season member only. WikiSports2016 (talk) 15:30, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Right, so following that logic and Murray being released in September, why would you not note Murray as having been on the Saints roster during 2021? Hey man im josh (talk) 23:09, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Murray was not on the Saints' roster for their first game. He was on the Ravens' roster. Even if Murray was a free agent 2021 would not be listed in his infobox for his tenure with the Saints. He was cut before the Saints' first game of 2021. That is my interpretation and I think it is the interpretation of most NFL Wikipedia editors. This very topic we are talking about may be listed in the Wikipedia NFL edit rules/outline. If you disagree then debate it with one of the big NFL editors. WikiSports2016 (talk) 23:17, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Right, so following that logic and Murray being released in September, why would you not note Murray as having been on the Saints roster during 2021? Hey man im josh (talk) 23:09, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- You are wrong. D.J. Hayden was edited to 2022 because he was a practice squad member of the Commanders in 2021, signed a reserve/future contract for 2022 and was released in April after the 2022 NFL league year started. Hayden was never on the active roster for the Commanders otherwise his infobox would just say 2021. Instead it says 2021-2022 with an asterisk to note that he was a practice squad/off-season member only. WikiSports2016 (talk) 15:30, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- @WikiSports2016, please explain to me why you're selectively applying this idea? You made an edit on D. J. Hayden adding 2022 to his career history for the Washington Commanders when he was cut on April 8th, 5 months earlier than Murray was cut by the Saints. How does it make sense to mark a player as part of a team for the 2022 season when they're cut in April, but remove the year for a player who was cut on September 7th, made the 53 man roster, and played in the pre-season games? As you're well aware, there is a designation for players who were on a squad during the preseason. Murray has recorded stats from playing in the 2021 pre-season games for the Saints, meaning he should be listed. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:03, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- That is your opinion and/or interpretation. If you believe that so strongly then you have a lot of player's infoboxes to fix. And I'm pretty sure you are wrong anyways. But again, Murray was literally on a different team's roster when the Saints played their first game. WikiSports2016 (talk) 06:11, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- That's literally not how it works. Hey man im josh (talk) 03:44, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: This is one of the weird issues that frequently pop up with the NFL infobox. Because the offseason asterisk note says "Offseason and/or practice squad member only," we will show a player's tenure as every season/offseason they were on that team if the note applies. When the asterisk does not apply (meaning, they were on the regular season roster for any part of a season), we will not include the most recent season if they did not make the regular season roster or practice squad. The other Big Four sports leagues wikis (MLB, NHL, NBA) explicitly omit teams and years in infoboxes if players do not play in regular season games for them, but the NFL wiki includes them, leading to this odd logic. Could be worth a larger discussion at WT:NFL to see if we can come up with a better way to show players' team histories in the infoboxes. I know several editors think the inclusion of offseason or practice squad-only teams is fancruft. Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:58, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
July 2022
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I reverted your edit because you added links to a team name that already had one. If a player plays for the same organization multiple times we only link the first time the teams name is mentioned. Same with coaching. (talk page stalker) CrashUnderride 17:13, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
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