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January 2025

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Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. You didn't read the MOS:TVCAST carefully before rethinking about your edits carefully. IMDB is not a credible source to use for TV series. So, stop putting uncredited cast members if there's no reliable sources. JRGuevarra (talk) 01:39, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Credit for additional casts

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The additional casts added in guest cast are based on the cast in IMDB and their appearance in the show. These casts needs to be credited as well in the article. [1]https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32962604/fullcredits?ref_=ext_shr_lnk


Winaldcruz088 (talk) 01:45, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What you put on the Saving Grace (Philippine TV series) article are uncredited cast members without actual reliable and secondary sources. It says on the MOS:TVCAST, "The key is to provide real-world context to the character using production information, without simply re-iterating entertainment websites such as IMDb." That means it is inappropriate to use IMDb as a source. They are also uncredited in accordance to the series. You might as well focus on what they're credited and they're not credited from the TV series itself. JRGuevarra (talk) 01:53, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can you add these casts as they also appeared in the series? Also Jen Gardose is a real life Mom of Zia/ Grace the protagonist of the show.
  • Dwin Araza as Mr. Santos, Foster Father of Grace
  • Jen Gardose as Mrs. Santos, Foster Mother of Grace
Winaldcruz088 (talk) 02:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid I can't do that even though they appeared in the Saving Grace series because I need to follow the MOS:TVCAST formula. The Facebook post link that you showed me needs further verification, but I don't think it's useful enough in accordance to the WP:NOTSOCIALMEDIA. JRGuevarra (talk) 02:16, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So what should we do? To have these names? Please give me options?? It’s unfair if they are not credited. Winaldcruz088 (talk) 02:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We're unfortunately out of options, and we have to stick with the Manual of Style Television formula for television articles. JRGuevarra (talk) 02:28, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can you just put an open close parenthesis “Uncredited”? Or else will have this dispute and ask the casting prod of saving grace to have this dispute. This is just plain unfair bcoz some names are in there but not credited too in the series. Winaldcruz088 (talk) 02:39, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALL USERS are allowed to edit the page and TV series in wikipedia allows users to edit it as long as they have proof that they appeared in the series. If u dont want users to edit the article have it lock then. Who are u to uncredit people wh also became part of the production? Winaldcruz088 (talk) 02:53, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

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Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Winaldcruz088 reported by User:JRGuevarra (Result: ). Thank you. JRGuevarra (talk) 03:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]