User talk:Yug/Archive02

Source for map?

First of all, thanks for alerting me about the graphics lab! The pictures look great. Now for something I must bother you about:

Recently someone added this map to the article on Tang Dynasty. I noticed on the page for this image that there is not a proper source listed as to where these boundaries were discerned, i.e. a scholarly book or journal, preferably published by a university press. Do you remember exactly which source you used to create these borders in the map? Thanks.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 18:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Maps

So, what map from my list should I tackle next? Justin Morris ^{(talk, contributions)} 17:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/shortcut

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han dynasty map

um all you need to do i think is to type "han dynasty" and "tarim basin protectorate" in google and your bound to get reliable resources on its status.ㄏㄨㄤㄉㄧ (talk) 13:42, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Articles you created : list

I eventually found the good tool ! there : http://toolserver.org/~escaladix/larticles/larticles.php?user=Nlu&lang=en

Yug 18:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Tang Taizong administration : some confirmations/anwsers need ...

Hello Nlu,

I'm re-writing my French Tang Taizong article, to the feature article level, accordingly, I'm reading again and more deeply the Cambridge History of China (CHOC), Sui and Tang volume, Chap. Kao-tsung and Chap. T'ai-tsung .
Sorry if my questions seems basic -I some time just ask for confirmations- but I have some difficulties to draw clearly the shape of Taizong's central administration because of some unclear points in the CHOC, especially the following terms, (since either my English is not perfect or that those terms are use without more precisions) I don't clearly understand :

1. 'chief minister (China)' 宰相 (ex. Xiao Yu, before 627, and in 630 = ‘chief minister’) - the CHOC use this term without saying which minister/departement he is the 'chief', what that ? leading which departement/ministers ?

2. 'Chancellery' (門下省 Menxià shĕng) and 'Chancellors', you seems to place the Chancelors (writing Imperial edict) as being the highest office, higher that Vice-presidents of the Department of State Affairs (leading administration and executive power), is there a reason ?

3. 'Vice-President of the Departement of State Affairs' (ex: Zhangsun Wuji, after 645): so, who is the president ? Taizong, right ?

4. 'Censorate' (御史臺 yushitai) - I know what it is, but it seems (?) "out" of the Three Departments and Six Ministries (fr) set of offices, have you some information on its place ?

5. School of Calligraphie (Shu Xué, create in 628), CHOC p.214, but CHOC's Glossary, p.831 wrote Shu Xue = "數学", then meaning School of Mathematics (!). Can you check on : JTS vol.3 and XTS vol.48 what is the State School create in Chang'an in 628 ?

Waiting for some answer,

Regards, Yug (talk) 15:52, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi... Thanks for writing. Remember that while I do consider myself sort of an expert on the subject (whereas there are many areas that I do not consider myself an expert at all!), I am not a professor and hold no graduate degree in history. (One of my undergraduate majors was history.)

• I do not remember much about the Cambridge History of China. However, I will say this; to the extent it appears to imply that Tang had a single chief minister, that is definitely wrong, and that is based on both how Tang Dynasty historians viewed their own governmental structure and also how subsequent Song Dynasty historians viewed it. (See further below.)
• Translating the Menxia Sheng as "chancellory" implies incorrectly that only the head of the Menxia Sheng (the Shizhong) is a chancellor. That is not true. I don't know how well you read Chinese, but a fairly good (and not that difficult to understand even if you're not accustomed to reading classical Chinese) discussion of how the system works is in New Book of Tang, vol. 46. If you are better at modern Chinese, Bo Yang's Zhongguoren Shigang (中國人史綱) provides a good discussion in its discussion on Tang Dynasty governmental structure. Bo translates Menxia Sheng into modern Chinese as Jiandu Yuan (the same title for the Republic of China Controll Yuan, which might be imprecise, but that is in turn why I've further rendered "examination bureau" which might be imprecise as well. In any case, my translation of "chancellor" is meant to be a direct translation of Zaixiang (宰相).
• I assume, among the titles that they used for Zhangsun that they translated as "Vice-President of the Department of State Affairs" was Shangshu Pushe (尚書僕射). As Bo pointed out, that is a misleading translation because the original head position of Shangshu Sheng (尚書省, which I translate as "executive bureau" and which Bo translated as Guowu Yuan (國務院), the same translation as the State Council of the People's Republic of China), the Shangshu Ling (尚書令), was basically abolished after the start of Emperor Gaozu's reign since Emperor Taizong was the only person to have ever held it, thus rendering the Shangshu Pushe, of whom there were two, to be the head of the Shangshu Sheng. In this case, there is no Shangshu Ling; the office is vacant.
• The Yushitai was independent (although persons holding Yushi offices often had other governmental titles as well, thus making them not completely independent). For more details on its structure, see the New Book of Tang, vol. 48 if you can read classical Chinese. To tell the truth, I don't understand it well myself. It does not fall under the Shangshu Sheng, Menxia Sheng, or Zhongshu Sheng.
• I am not familiar with the Shuxue. But this is a term that means mathematics in modern Chinese. Taken in isolation in classical Chinese, I'd interpret more as in the context of "multiple arts."

I'm sorry that I do not have more information on these things that you ask. I hope that these are helpful. --Nlu (talk) 18:21, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Map

Hello Yug...

Thank you for editing my map. It is progressive the history of my maps from this, because of your contribute.

However, there are some of problem such as naming of sea of japan, which is called "East Sea", but this is not reflected on editing map and The map depend on only Chinese source.

Except for this, I respect your contribute to my map. Please can you provide good advices and tools to me? especially, The line of troops' moves and style of font. teach me how to make it.

Thanks~ --Historiographer (talk) 17:40, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Map

Hey Yug. I love your new map! I just don't know which specific history article will benefit from it, or where it will be relevant enough to place. Geography of China would be a good start, but perhaps even History of China is another article where it could best be used.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 05:07, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll be rewriting the article on the Han Dynasty very soon, so I might need your services in creating a map sooner than you think. Cambridge is always a trustworthy source.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 17:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

The TIMES Atlas of World History (third edition) ISBN 0-7230-0304-1 is a trsutworthy sourceJulius Ceasarus From Primus (talk) 00:38, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Let's look at some already existing maps in the Han Dynasty article:

• with source: this map for the Han and the featured Image:Han Civilisation.png use as source: Tan Qixiang, ed., Zhongguo lishi ditu (中国历史地图集), 1982 ;
• no source: this other map as well as this map

As for the two maps I just listed here that cite their sources, I think I will keep, but I would request (if possible) to replace those other two maps which do not city any sources. Once I start writing the article, I'll let you know what type of map will be sorely needed. Thanks Yug!--Pericles of Athens^Talk 15:39, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Yep : I'm admirative of the work done by Jack Yuan (user:Yu Ninjie). In fact, my aim is both to continue his work, a to create a set of SVG tools and icons for Chinese history maps. Time will say. -- Yug 17:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Awesome. I am also a fan of Yu Ninjie's maps. They are very professional, despite some of them lacking sources. As for intricate details about Yellow River course changes, you could try to do further research on the topic, but don't work harder than you should for a Wiki project. These things can take a long time if necessary. Just be patient; I'm sure you'll find a good source.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 22:50, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

your tang dynasty map

if you don't mind i added two more reputable sources.Julius Ceasarus From Primus (talk) 00:33, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

'ive noticed the above person posted unsourced links, i have a book myself which supports his links above, ISBN 978-1-84573-323-0 MAPPING HISTORY WORLD HISTORY, by Dr. Ian Barnes, it matches exactly , i think all representations of the warring states and zhou are standard. the current maps on the articles are substandard.Historian of the arab people (talk) 17:24, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

if you dont trust me can you at least make a map and put it on hold until you can see this book?Historian of the arab people (talk) 17:30, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

my source backs up every single link julius posted, i have another book at a library, the TIMES ATLAS OF WORLD HISTORY THIRD EDITION that even pinpoints which families ruled what states, like the zhou and shang families and others. ISBN 0-7230-0304-1 Historian of the arab people (talk) 17:35, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

my source is reliable. can you make a maps please. i want to throw up when i see the current maps on shang and zhou162.83.131.50 (talk) 17:41, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

User:Saperaud's maps are terrible. i hope you check my source , which backs up Juliu's links exactly to the zhou dynasty ,warring states, and shang dynasty.Historian of the arab people (talk) 17:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Actually those were yu ninjie's maps. they are extremely misleadding and make me want to throw up.162.83.131.50 (talk) 17:50, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

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I don't understand clearly what you want to say. Can you explain slowly. (PS: I'm French, my English is not that good too) --Yug (talk) 18:02, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

i have an .edu website that has a map that matches up with the maps in the links. [1] edu is for top level domains for educational systems in the USa.Historian of the arab people (talk) 18:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, ok.

• This site and list of maps is GREAT ! but without source. Who had draw these maps ? them ? or they have pic up this from ... where ? who ?
• "About these maps" : this page don't say "Tang map, draw according to : EBREY, Cambridge Illustrated history of China, 1979, p.23". It say : "[the set of maps was draw] by consulting other reference works, such as the Zhongguo lishi ditu ji series."
• the main page state : "Prepared by Patricia Buckley Ebrey" [a well know sinologist] ! This is encouraging ! I will try to contact her to get further informations about these/her? maps. [one by one] --Yug (talk) 19:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

[2], [3], [4] this is also an edu of the zhou dynasty, . edu's are reliable sources. Historian of the arab people (talk • contribs) 18:59, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

if i have a regional map of china saved i can draw out the ancient coastline, unless if someone already did it for every single dynasty.Historian of the arab people (talk) 19:24, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

do you have the TIMES ATLAS OF WORLD HISTORY third edition?Historian of the arab people (talk) 19:27, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

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I don't have the TIMES ATLAS OF WORLD HISTORY third edition. I really have to leave the web now : I will be back not before 5 or 7 days. (I leave France monday, I have to prepare my luggages). See you. --Yug (talk) 19:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

requested move for History of the Khitans

Hi, Yug. I noticed that you moved Khitan people to History of the Khitans. I disagree and requested to move it back. Please join the discussion at Talk:History of the Khitans if you are interested. Many thanks. --Neo-Jay (talk) 23:51, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Cheers! --Neo-Jay (talk) 05:58, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Yug. Thanks for your help. My Gmail account name is yananpeng. Many thanks!--Neo-Jay (talk) 10:22, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I just downloaded all of them!--Neo-Jay (talk) 22:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

;)Yug (talk) 09:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Map of Manchu Cities(or Eight Banners Provincial garrisons) in China proper

Hi, I like your maps so much that I copy/paste 2 maps onto my user page. If you have maps of Eight Banners Provincial garrisons in whole China that will be very nice, can be used on Qing and related articles. Thanks. Arilang ^talk 14:06, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Arilang's reply at my talk page. Arilang ^talk 14:53, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

My user page now provide my email. Yug (talk) 15:25, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Tang Code

Thank you for your additions! The article looks much more substantial, now. I'm looking forward to all your maps on Chinese history. Cheers, Madalibi (talk) 02:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Latest Athens

This French guy just returned from Athens. Brilliant stuff! See: [5]

Ne rien avoir emporté non plus, à l’heure de monter dans l’avion, lois d’exceptions permanentes, mesures anti-terroristes, quand un livre devient une pièce à charge et le numéro de téléphone d’un ami étranger la preuve d’un complot international.

Ne pas avoir pris de notes, pendant ces quatre jours, des fois que… Ne rien avoir rapporté, sinon ces souvenirs aussi brumeux que les lacrymos faisant pleurer Athènes.

Ces nuits où la Grèce n’aura jamais été aussi belle du deuil et de la rage, de la fureur et du mystère, du silence et des flammes.

Athènes dont le plus beau marbre est celui jeté à la gueule des porcs assassins d’un gamin de quinze ans, d’un avocat véreux, d’un Etat qui vacille. Athènes où les applaudissements éclatent en même temps que les vitrines. Athènes qui brûle pour Alexis et s’en fait une joie.

ETC ETC Apostolos Margaritis (talk) 23:20, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Location map Canada

Hello! Here you say the map of Canada is wrong because of a wrong projection. I don't understand why you said so. This map works fine as a location map and is one of the first location maps in a conic projection. Conic projections are planned for all countries near to the poles and with a hugh west-eastern extension like Canada, Russia, USA or Greenland. Regards, --NNW (talk) 11:52, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Voting at wikisource

Hi, Chinese Charter 08 is facing problem at wikisource, could you go over there and cast your vote? http://zh.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:%E6%8A%95%E7%A5%A8#.E6.87.89.E5.90.A6.E5.85.81.E8.A8.B1PD-manifesto
I have casted mine(user name阿拉伯王子), so had user Coppertwig. Arilang ^talk 04:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Map Requests

I don't approve of the archiving of all of the current map requests - I don't mind redirecting to a map lab, but if so lets start with the active requests - those articles still need maps. Kmusser (talk) 14:40, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

The previous project was death : 40edits a year, take a look at the French or German Maps labs : they created 2500 maps in 3 years (~3 maps a day). The English wikipedia alone can do the same, if well structured.

That's what I'm doing : I'm creating a new friendly place, based on German and French successful strategies.

The page have been archived, and it will be easy for us [and encouraged] to pick up request from this archive. You can help to this ! by picking up suitable request (1. have a source available ; 2. explain clearly the request ; 3. will fill an article need).

I do my best to wake up this side of Wikipedia, we can do better on the map side. Yug (talk) 14:53, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

My main concern is I don't want to hide the several thousand outstanding map requests - maybe just calling it something else, to me "archive" implies that there is nothing there still relevant, maybe calling it "old unfilled requests" - there should be a prominent link to the map requests category as well, I'll admit I pull more from the category than from that map request page, and currently map requests made directly to my talk page have been enough to keep me busy. Kmusser (talk) 16:11, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I understand your concern. The name is not important for me, you are free to rename the page if you want ;] But keep it as an old inactive page : the important now to successfully launch the Map lab.

For users picking up requests on the Category:Map_request : I hope graphists, or users, will do so and bring requests back to the active Map lab ! All the move, here, is in fact to move from a cold and unencouraging request list, to a warm and active Map forum, where tips are share, and graphists have fun to learn a lot quickly.

I hope that we will have enough success to do all of this : see the quick rising of a local Map lab ; and see users picking up old requests to satisfied them. Time will say. Yug (talk) 16:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, on thinking about it I'm fine with that as long as we say there are unfilled requests there, I tried to edit the Lab page but your syntax defeated me - I think there should be a link to the archive and the map request category fairly prominently on the lab page, the text I tried to add is:

Older unfilled requests can be found in the Archive or in Category:Wikipedia requested maps and can be brought forward to this page in order to be worked on.

Kmusser (talk) 15:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and thanks for all the work you're doing on the Maps project page. For the clarification notes you put on the colors I can explain one of them - the secondary political borders is for if you're showing multiple levels of subdivisions on the same maps, for example I'd use the primary borders color for states and the secondary borders color for counties if both need to be on one map - feel free to rephrase the description - it's admittedly one that isn't adhered to much, many maps, mine included use gray borders of varying widths instead. I don't know what the 4-color map suggestions are for, we don't generally have 4-color type maps on wikipedia and I can't think of any examples using them.Kmusser (talk) 14:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, noticed. Thanks ;] Yug (talk) 14:38, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

If you need an example for the technical maps, we don't really have any standards for that but I'd nominate File:Ph map manila.svg as something to aim for. Kmusser (talk) 16:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, noticed. The page commons:User:MapMaster also have some interesting technical/archeolical maps.

If you want start the stub of the /Technical maps : you are free to do so !

I need to go to walk ! Death to the web and computers ! Yug (talk) 16:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC) :]

Yeah, I like MapMaster's maps as well, sorry I haven't done much to help, the actual day job is keeping me too busy. Kmusser (talk) 17:24, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good, I'm all in favor of more code generated maps, much better in the long run than having to custom make one for every article. Kmusser (talk) 14:00, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

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Tutoriels de Topo-Cartographie

Salut Yug! Merci pour ces mots gentils. J'ai ajouté un champ de pourcentage après chaque titre. Je n'ai pas beaucoup fait sur ces traductions ces derniers mois, mais j'espère maintenant pouvoir travailler dessus un peu plus. JaneVannin (talk) 11:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Swine influenza

Hey there. Yes, I do see your argument, but unfortunately with organisations like the CDC and WHO all referring to this as "swine influenza" (see WHO for example) we have to do the same on Wikipedia. Once we have more information on this H1N1 strain we could split the articles into one on this human-transmissible strain and a second more general one about "swine influenza", but presently we're stuck with this nomenclature. Tim Vickers (talk) 23:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I know, it is a problem but I'm not sure what to do about it. Tim Vickers (talk) 23:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

OK, so split the article into Swine flu and swine flu (farming)? Then we can move all the purely pig-related material into the farming article. I don't think we can just redirect swine flu, since that article needs to discuss the previous "swine flu" human outbreaks. Tim Vickers (talk) 23:51, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi Yug. I sympathize with your frustration. Swine influenza should be quieter tomorrow, now that the "In the news" blurb on the Main Page no longer links to it. Also, you can help to innoculate the article against content about the human outbreak by adding more content about swine flu in swine. Are you up for that? --Una Smith (talk) 03:05, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Nope, I'm student in Chinese asn History studies only ;) , and old wikipedian, that's all. I see that this articles is going in a bad direction, hour after hour overlapping more the 2009 swine flu outbreak. I try to stop that now, that's all what I can do. Thanks for your support !Yug (talk) 03:13, 30 April 2009 (UTC) [and I have to sleep now to...]

Pig image

I haven't seen nausea or vomiting listed as symptoms in pigs - I'm not sure how you could tell that a pig is feeling nauseous! I'd refer to this source for symptoms. Tim Vickers (talk) 20:14, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

China in Africa

I copyedited a lot. Badagnani (talk) 20:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

See and watch Talk:China in Africa for this talk. ;) Yug (talk) 20:51, 28 May 2009 (UTC) + thanks !

I'm sure you can't tell, but the article (which you wrote the majority of) cannot be read as it is. I am not trying to sound mean, but your English is not good. So my goal with this article is to take the info that you put, try and interpret what you are trying to say, and rewrite the sentences so that they can be read by the average English speaking reader. I know that some facts got taken out (which is inevitable with such a long article) like the silk thing. However, it didnt make any sense in relation to its surrounding sentences, so it made more sense to take out that one sentence that to explain that Silk originated in China, how it got to Africa through Rome, etc.

Your article is not about the US, the UK, and France in Africa, it is about the PRC in Africa. This means that you do not have to have an entire section dedicated to the USA, Taiwan, the UK and France, you just have to mention them, and they are. Thanks, Onopearls ^(t/c) 16:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Not a problem. :) I don't have the time needed to dedicate myself to fixing the entire article in one sitting. However, I will work as much as I can on it when I get the chance, and hopefully it will be finished within the next week. Thanks, Onopearls ^(t/c) 16:28, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello Yug, I see you have a deep interest in China in Africa. I want to invite you to our China in Africa discussion group that a group of us Tsinghua University and Cape Town University post-graduates have setup. Unfortunately I do not have your email address or I would send you an invitation directly. If you are interested you can join our group here at http://groups.google.com/group/ChinaAfrica. --Discott (talk) 16:25, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Energy and Resources Institute

Hello! Your submission of The Energy and Resources Institute at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Shubinator (talk) 21:38, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Africa China references

Please note that footnotes are generally preferred to whole article references on Wikipedia, as are wholly self-contained inline citations, hence why I significantly tweaked the referencing in the article and reverted your recent edits which undid my edits. Note that no references were deleted or substantively altered through my initial edits, and that the changes were quite labor-intensive to do. --Cybercobra (talk) 12:41, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Responded on article talkpage. Hopefully another active editor of the article will give their input and help resolve our dispute. --Cybercobra (talk) 13:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome.

I'm glad to help out. Let me know if you need this kind of help in the future. Caeruleancentaur (talk) 14:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Arilang say Hi

If you are interested in this discussion, please leave some comments.

commons:File talk:Flag of the Republic of China.svg Arilang ^talk 21:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

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Popup Translation Tool

Thanks for the support about the Popup Translation Tool

If you would tell me what happens to you when you use it perhaps I can help you to get it to work.

What browser are you using? What is happening? Are there any popups? Does the "Translation Popup -ON/OFF" tab happen at the top right of the page? If the tab says "Translation Popup -- OFF" you need to click on the tab and turn on the effect. YOU NEED TO CLEAR THE CACHE before the tool will begin to work: Shift REFRESH for Firefox and CTRL REFRESH for IE.

I'll look at your monobook.js file and see if I can see anything

Endo999 (talk) 07:08, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi there, You can include my monobook file within your monobook.js file by simply adding

importScript('User:Endo999/monobook.js');

This will properly add the file and you only have one line in your monobook.js file instead of many

Endo999 (talk) 07:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I have also put this gadget up for consideration on the french wikipedia if you are interested in seeing that happen over there.

Endo999 (talk) 08:21, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback and I'm glad you got the tool to work. I'll put in some of your suggestions over the next couple of days and get back to you.

Endo999 (talk) 19:56, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Will look at the icons when I get off work today. Did you know you can select up to 500 characters of text and then hover the cursor inside the selected text and the tool will translate that selected text. Lots of people don't pick that up when they first use the tool. Google only translates 500 characters of text at a time or I could have more text translated. Thanks for looking at the tool and supporting it. Endo999 (talk) 20:18, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I have looked at your comments and made the text within my popup window much simpler: 1) no 'close window' link 2) just '->French' instead of 'English:French' 3) just 'Source: Google' instead of 'Source: Google translate page?' 4) the arrangement of the text is slightly different.

I think the Source has to stay in there since this is an encyclopedia and you always need to have the source of where you get the information from. Google also might not be too pleased if I didn't put it in.

Thanks for the feedback. I'd like to make this a gadget in enwiki and appreciate your time on this matter.

Endo999 (talk) 07:10, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Regarding your latest suggestions I will see what I can do in the next 2 or 3 days. I have to work this week so I don't have as much time to spend on popup translations as I would like.

1) I probably can't do multiple translations because I just call google.translate() services and they only give one translation. I'm aware the google toolbar will give several but I don't have a mechanism to do that with.

2) I can probably put the 'englishword: frenchtranslatedword' scheme in, for single words.

A question to you: I have code in my own private stuff that does translation services for input fields and textareas. That is you can position the cursor over the input field and get a popup translation of the words within the input field. You can also, for input fields and textareas, replace the original text with the translated text. I use this to do google lookups on terms and words in languages other than English. You could, for instance, type in a word in French and have the English term replace the French term within the input field or textarea.

Are you interested in such a service in your Wikipedia work. I could, given about a week, splice this code into the already existing translation popup code.

Endo999 (talk) 17:08, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I have put the pretranslated word in the popup. This only happens for single word lookup. For selected text it still only puts the translation in.

Can you get TheDJ to have another look at my gadget. He said he would put it up but then he would no longer answer any of my messages. I am blacklisted in Australia and I think it spread to him. He was very positive about the tool and then he would no longer respond to any messages.

Endo999 (talk) 07:12, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, thanks for putting my case to TheDJ. Hopefully I'll get an answer. You can use this tool on the Chinese Wikipedia as well. For Chinese to French I believe it will translate all the Chinese the cursor points to up to a space or comma so it will not strictly do 1 word translations (since there is no real space character in that language). In your Chinese Wikipedia monobook page I believe the following will work:

importScript('en:User:Endo999/monobook.js');

I mention this because I believe you are learning Chinese as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Endo999 (talk • contribs) 20:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Degree

What are you taking in university?174.3.103.39 (talk) 11:34, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Currently double studies : Chinese (Master) and History (Bachelor). I'm French.

In september 2009 : Management, in Taiwan. Why ? Yug (talk) 12:20, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh, just curious:)174.3.103.39 (talk) 05:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

« Just curious », oh, fine, you are in the good website. Yug (talk) 12:31, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Accounts

Your welcome; if you need more help, let me know. I used to have an account, but people were giving me a tough time.174.3.103.39 (talk) 06:39, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Energy security of China

Thank you for all your hard work on improving this article. Please remember, though, to use edit summaries when making major additions or changes. Thanks, rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 18:22, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Help for a new Wikipedia member

Hello Yug,

Thank you for your message,

I am not sure how to use these talk and user pages on Wikipedia. Can you help me?

Am I messaging you in the right way here?

What sort of thing should I put on my user page?

Many thanks,

Helen McCall —Preceding unsigned comment added by Helen McCall (talk • contribs) 21:49, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

East Asian Calligraphy

Yug, I'm currently engaged in a discussion with user Asoer on whether East Asian Calligraphy is "calligraphy" or not. You've contributed to the article on East Asian Calligraphy before, so I wonder if you could have a look in. [6]

Bathrobe (talk) 05:31, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

OpenShot Editing

Hello Yug,

Many thanks for your tip on {{Under Construction}}

I am learning very fast! ;-)

--Helen McCall (talk) 13:42, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Help needed on Special Export to XML

Hello again Yug,

I am trying to export the openshot page as XML.

I tried using the Special:Export page, but when I pushed the button to export, the XML file did not appear anywhere.

How do I download the XML export.

Many thanks,

--Helen McCall (talk) 13:48, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello Helen,

Yes, nice to see you progress fast ;)

You want to get the OpenShot article into XML version ? I never seen such tool. But try Special:Export/OpenShot Video Editor (is this XML?)

The introduction is there : Special:Export, they also say that some parameters are possible.

PDF ? a pdf version is available there (OpenShot page > Find "PDF version"), which may be converte into XML... maybe (never tryed).

HTML ? like all web page => View > Page source.

Good luck O.o Yug (talk) 19:45, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Translation Popups -- SHIFT key down now necessary to get popup

Hi there,

Due to some work that cacycle suggested it is now necessary to hold the SHIFT key down in order to get the popup to work. You can turn this new feature off by clicking on the Translation Popups tab at the top of the page and clicking on the relevant link within the popup that turns this feature off.

Thanks for your suggestions on the system. I hope you are finding it useful if you are still using it.

I had to make an item on Wikipedia:Alerts in order to get TheDJ to write back to me. He suggested I resubmit my proposal, which I did. From there cacycle said that after some changes he suggested he would really like to see the code become a gadget. However, after a day of communications, he seems to have stopped communicating with me too.

I have code that makes the popup effect happen on input fields and/or textareas. With these two types of fields you have the option of replacing the text within the input areas with the translated text coming from Google. Please let me know if you are interested in such an extension to the system. It is quite good code and I don't really want to make it public domain if it is not going to be used.

Endo999 (talk) 21:19, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Yug,

The google translation code of mine finally became a gadget under the name GoogleTrans. Thanks for your suggestions in simplying the popup window. Most of them got in. You'll have to tell me if you use the tool for Chinese, which you seem to study.

Endo999 (talk) 00:53, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Yug,

Your suggestion to make the popup instantaneous has got in. The popup will happen now within 1/4 of a second of putting the shift key down, which is basically instantaneous from the users point of view.

The tool is only a gadget on enwiki with earlier versions on eswiki and ptwiki. If you want to put it up on zhwiki then go right ahead. There will just be some string changes and changing the domainname from en.wikipedia.org to zh.wikipedia.org and the thing should carry over okay.

When translating chinese to english, because chinese doesn't have a space operator, text is translated in phrases between spaces and punctuation marks.

The discussion page for the gadget is now User:Endo999/GoogleTrans.

Thanks for your help again.

Endo999 (talk) 00:23, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Yug,

You are supposed to control the popups by using the SHIFT key. When you don't want the popups you have the SHIFT key up, when you want them you hold the SHIFT key down. If you turn the SHIFT key option off then the interval for checking is still 1 second. Thanks for you feedback again.

Endo999 (talk) 15:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Request for graphic conversion help

Hi Yug. May I ask your help again with how to convert ancient Chinese characters? I was able to do it before using Adobe CS3 but now seem to have forgotten a step. I copy the original Richard Sears GIF, open it in Firefox and resize, open it in Illustrator, use Live Trace to clean up the image, and save as SVG. The result now has jagged rather than smooth lines. Would you have any idea what I'm doing wrong? Or can you tell me an easier way to convert to SVG? Thanks in advance. Keahapana (talk) 19:47, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm not too sure about you thinking its always better to have your own government; in fact, it is better for areas with the same culture to be integrated, so they don't tariff each other/have wars/no free movement, etc... In this way, it would be better for Taiwan to be integrated into China so they can have free trade with mainland like hong Kong.Teeninvestor (talk) 18:10, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Locator map help

Hey Yug! Do you think you can do me a favour--it's probably really easy for you, but I just don't get it. I want to get up a marked location map for Serranilla Bank and Bajo Nuevo Bank in the Caribbean. The locator map needed is Colombia. The Spanish versions of the articles have the two locations marked. If you show me on one I can do the other. It'd be a huge help, and then I'd know how to do it in the future. Thankyou! Rennell435 (talk) 03:27, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I think I understand your need.

You want add 2 dots, upon a Colombia map (File:Mapa Localizador Colombia.svg).

You need the English-wikipedia template.

I think you need {{Location map+}}. If not, please look within Category:Location_map_templates. Regards. Yug (talk) 11:42, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Yug!!! Good on ya! Rennell435 (talk) 15:00, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Graphics lab request

I've updated your request Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Photography_workshop -- penubag  (talk) 09:32, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Deletion

Did you really mean to delete 57,000+ characters on the Pandemic‎ article? WBardwin (talk) 07:08, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

OUTCH ! XD ! I just checked the history before to believe it ! What that ? No, that was absolutely not my aim. I just added : {{fact}}{{why}}. (!!) Thanks for the undo. O.o --Yug (talk) 07:49, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

ITN for Forum on China-Africa Cooperation

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Africa in China

Yug, I don't quite understand this. You support the democratization of Iran, yet you support Chinese involvement in Africa. Why is this? I'm not sure if you know, but China is a communist country that rejects (as stated in its Beijing Consensus) democracy as important.

Also, the paragraphs I note, they aren't cited, aren't written in a neutral point of view and are written by somebody that isn't even proficient in English. 77.103.8.120 (talk) 19:07, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

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Khitan

Hi, I've closed Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Khitan (3rd nomination), consensus was to userfy it into your userspace. It's now at User:Yug/Khitan. Let me know if you have any questions or anything. Peace, delldot ∇. 00:08, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Characters and wildlife in Avatar#Change in Title

Hello, Yug. Would you mind commenting in the above linked discussion? Since you recently changed the title, your thoughts are needed. Flyer22 (talk) 19:50, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

An article you have worked on is up for deletion

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Hello, it helps to have bullet points instead of section headings for the fauna and flora. Usually, sections have multiple paragraphs, and it's not necessary to have headings here until we can add enough real-world context. One creature had too many paragraphs of in-universe detail, about half as long as the film's plot summary itself! Also, are the fan animal and moss sections really necessary? Erik (talk) 18:38, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

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File source and copyright licensing problem with File:Handala-edit.png

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Fictional universe in Avatar

Yug, I removed the content because I thought it was a copyright violation. I've never really worked on Wikias except to know that they're generally places to contain in-universe information. Even if it is not a copyright violation, it is still excessive in-universe information (akin to the body when the article first started) and lacks real-world perspective. I ask you not to see me as destructive -- a good deal of what exists at Fictional universe in Avatar was written by me because I did not want the article-apparently-to-be-kept to look so shoddy. So I revised it to ring true with real-world context, and I proposed a move to "Fictional universe" so the sub-article's scope could cover Pandora and human technology. Erik (talk) 12:37, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Maps userbox

Is the change to the "This user is interested in maps" userbox permanent? I went ahead and reverted the edit the first time, as I was not sure if it was vandalism or not, and I did not see any discussion relating to the edit. --Another Believer _(Talk) 06:26, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Not, for sure this is not permanent. I specified in the history that I will let this message for one month only. The Map project and Map lab are nice places, which are sadly not really famous. This message aim to fill the gaps: make more people, interested by maps, aware of these places, where we can share map experiences and map making skills. Yug (talk) 11:52, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the response! --Another Believer _(Talk) 20:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Just a reminder to revert the maps userbox to its original appearance since the March 12 deadline has come and gone. :) --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:28, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I went ahead and did the revert myself since I was at the page. Best wishes! --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh ! Yes ! that's true. Thanks for your initiative! I completely forgot this. I'm currently preparing my master thesis proposal (outline's draft #__#) and I completely forget everything. I also forgot to eat this evening @.@ Anyway, your initiative was right, thanks, and sorry for my forget #.# Yug (talk) 16:56, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

SVG Help

I have little experience with vector graphics, and a decent amount in raster, but I'm just flat out confused. I am trying to do a request to vectorize an image. (request Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Map_workshop#Empire_of_Japan) I'm running into issues though. I can't seem to modify the paths to add color to the correct places in the image because of the way the points are set up. (I can't seem to connect two preexisting points) and I can't crop it. I'm following http://inkscape-forum.andreas-s.net/topic/112456 directions, but it's only cropping a tiny itsy bit, which is strange. I'm uploading the image so you can see if you can help, as I'm genuinely interested in helping if I can figure it out ;) Here is the image I've worked on... File:Empire of Japan (1868-1945).svg Regards, NativeForeigner ^Talk/_Contribs/^Vote! 05:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

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biogeographical maps

Hi Yug. Hope you are feeling better. Have you had a chance to think about closing the discussion on these maps? Just wondering. Kahuroa (talk) 20:27, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

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Re: Maps

A bit of a good news/bad news situation I'm afraid with respect to the maps. First the bad news: I've been working manually (with a few tedious steps) to convert the OS-supplied shapefiles into SVG output. The end result of that process is the blank files such as File:East Sussex UK district map (blank).svg, but the manual process ensures I get what I want.

Now the good news: That part of the process is not the part best suited to bot work. The bot work would be in producing the thousands of area maps from the location/locator maps, and as I can provide the blank maps with sub-district names encoded in the markup (look at http:/upwiki/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/East_Sussex_UK_district_map_%28blank%29.svg in a text editor), bots could easily insert the highlighted colour and do the bulk uploading. Bots might also be able to handle some optimisation of the source.

As for the colour schemes, I'm not sure what's best and I'll happily defer to editors like you who have much more experience of this stuff :)--Nilfanion (talk) 22:23, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

ITN for Coronal mass ejection

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CME article

Hey,

I just re-did the update on CME so it would be MP eligible. I hope you like it, as you seemed rather invested in the story. I'll admit I'm not an expert, so if there is an error I'll happily fix it. Otherwise happy editing and I look forward to working with you in the future. Cheers! Cwill151 (talk) 02:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

ITN: Economy of the People's Republic of China

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Thank you for deleting spam links.

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DYK nomination of word lists by frequency

Greetings. Leaving you this message regarding your DYK nomination of the article word lists by frequency, which you yourself approved. Please note: you cannot approve an article you nominated yourself. Neither are you allowed to "move this proposal up" just because we haven't selected it for review yet. I have struck the approval symbol, but left your comments unstruck. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 12:54, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I was not aware. But then who do so (approval) ? This proposal have been slowed down several days because of a "citation format" critic, but the user then retracted. It seems that we have here all the elements for an approval but just no one to approve it. That's quite embarrassing for wikipedia, and -yes- time wasting for Quadzilla99 and myself. Yug (talk) 14:14, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

How is that "embarrassing" at all? When we have a backlog noms can go up to 10 days before being approved. You need to exercise patience here. Someone will review it in due course. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 14:30, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

If that's work this way, then you are right: I need to wait. Thanks for your explanations~ Yug (talk) 17:46, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Word lists by frequency

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User:NNW

Hello! I suppose it's you who created that account [7]. This is a nice idea, thank you. Would you mind to give me the password so I can occupy this account? I would like to have such a redirect at some other projects, too, but only if I am the owner of that account. Best regards, NNW (talk) 11:28, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh god... Yes, I created this account of your NNW shortpseudo to avoid that someone take it. You are a key user on graphism, I wanted to avoid confusion. I'm surprised I didn't informed you about that and didn't gave you the password. Now, as a matter of fact, I forgot the password. I tries my usual password, none working. But I may support your account merging request if need. Indeed, the 2 edits I made have nothing special/controversial, so its safe to just give them to you. You want this NNW account ? Yug (talk) 13:25, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, if you forgot the password it's a gone account. My usual account is an SUL account so there is nothing that could be merged. NNW (talk) 13:43, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

I just tried, just for fun, your password for that account and it was quite simple. :o) Now I have occupied it. I hope it's okay. NNW (talk) 13:50, 13 January 2011 (UTC) (aka NordNordWest)

If you are curious what it was: "NordNordWest". :o) NNW (talk) 13:53, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

hahahaha ! I tried "nordnordwest" unsuccessfully. Ok, so... you hacked your-mine account. Quite strange. Yug (talk) 15:08, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Stroke (CJK character)

As per your post on my talk page, I am now at the end of my flurry of updates to the Stroke (CJK character) page. You are of course, free to improve or correct as I defer to your expertise. I look forward to watching future updates. If I can be helpful in any way let me know. Missylou2who (talk) 02:47, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

libyan protests

[8] restores uncited info that is editorlaisting. pelase cite it.Lihaas (talk) 12:52, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Clans?: Information still there, just moved down. Please look slowly.

Younths: the demographic shape of Libya is quite well know (see image). Yug (talk) 12:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

1. added and kept in

2. still need a cite. "common knowledge" is not an excuse.

[9] --> Talk:2011_Libyan_protests#background.2Fearly_protests before restoring.(Lihaas (talk) 13:15, 22 February 2011 (UTC)).

Merge discussion for Monitor hypothesis

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GoogleTrans now does Karaoke Text To Speech

Hi there Yug,

Thanks again for your support several years ago for my GoogleTrans gadget on the enwiki. It's on 13 wikis now so it has had moderate success.

I have a private (non wikipedia) version of the gadget which I may have mentioned to you before at:

[[10]]

The reason I am writing to you now is that you have an interest in second language acquisition and I have recently put in karaoke Text To Speech on this version of GoogleTrans.

To run the karaoke text to speech:

Start

1) Page: http://www.securecottage.com/cgi-bin/reference.cgi

2) From there on, the Speaker can work in all links starting from this page.

3) Compatibility: IE9 & Firefox 3.5+. Audio bar: a html5 (FF), or flash toolbar (IE8 and less, needing flash)

--

Usage

1) select some text (< 4000 characters)

2) overfly with you cursor

3) hold the ESC key : a sound bar appear

4) play it : speak out the selected text

note: a tracker enlighten the word currently spoken

Interested by your opinion

Interest: Do you think it will help early learners of a language to understand the spoken language as opposed to the written language. I am interested in what you think about the karaoke text to speech.

Next sentence: There is also a next sentence link in the sound popup.

(Word) Tracker: the tracker enlightening the word currently spoken is often be 1 word behind or 1 word ahead. However, the selected word will be close enough to the actual word spoken to give the viewer a good idea which word is actually being spoken at the time.

Personally

The English and Spanish (which uses Festival TTS) is good, and the French (which uses ESPEAK) is acceptable. The other languages may not be that great.

I can read French and Spanish but cannot understand spoken Spanish or French. I am using this tool and I think I am slowly gaining in my comprehension of spoken French and Spanish.

What do you think of karaoke text to speech and its applicability to learning to understand spoken languages without the need of a speaker of that tongue around.

Thanks Again

Endo999 (talk) 17:17, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello Endo, nice to hear from you !! That's nice.

I reworded your post to make it more "human friendly" (you are too technical), you can copy freely ;)

Naming suggestion : "Speaker", or "Reader", ReadOut, seems to me (non English native speaker) better. Karaoke being connected with singing.

Next sentence: make a shortcut, [SPACE] key ?.

Outlook: just include a link "credit" or "About". Some apps do so. Otherwise that's really too much Chartjunk. Or a link '(about)' with 3 columns/paragrph: Manual ; Shortkeys ; Sources.

Word tracker: adapt your definition. "Word tracker: the word tracker indicates the word the area were the Speaker is working"

Interest: I'm personally lowly interested because of the uncomfortable sound of this kind of devices (the 'robot voice'). I'm not patient enough ;( . I think it's hardly possible to automatically speak out smoothly for latin languages. Latin langauges HAVE TO links phonemes of DIFFERENTS words together "make an answer" => "mak'an'nanswer", and NOT "make + an + answer', and thus have tens of thousands of several-words sound units to records to output a smooth pronunciation. BUT ! A such speaker is indeed a kind of device I dream of !

Should work fine for syllabic languages, clearly cut, like Chinese. But it put other trouble : the conversion Chinese characters -> alphabetic phonetic (Hanyu pinyin) => sound. nb: I can give you several starting point if you are interested by this Chinese way.

In short: the principle is VERY interesting for language learning, that's getting a native speaker in your bedroom for free. But that's hardly doable (smooth pronunciation) for latin language.

122.117.35.27 (talk) 14:59, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Question

i moved it to Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#WB_elections(Lihaas (talk) 21:30, 15 May 2011 (UTC)).

Yug

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GoogleTrans-Speak now does Chinese

Hi Yug,

Thanks for your feedback last time I messaged you. I put a 'source' link in the popup hiding the sources, as you suggested.

I'm currently using my private version of the gadget, which now has karaoke text to speech. It now does Chinese, so I was wondering if you'd give me some feedback, since you know Chinese.

I'm interested in knowing: is it in sync? It seems to be when no numbers or only a few punctuation letters are in the text. But I'm not so sure since I don't know Chinese. To test,

go to

[[11]]

and click on the Chinese Wikipedia link on the right middle side of the text page. Then select some text (>4000 characters) and hit the esc key. The Word Track/Karaoke should happen from that point on.

Thanks for your feedback previously. It has been helpful

Endo999 (talk) 01:43, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Chinese Text to Speech feedback

Thanks Yug for the feedback. It's always appreciated. I'll look into the website of Chinese sound that you have cited.

Endo999 (talk) 20:02, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: Map Drawing Tutorial

Hi Yug,

I'm not convinced that the orthographic map page is the best place for a tutorial. My biased opinion would be to see my user page, where I have a section on my attempts to create maps. I have a script that has been designed specifically for creating maps of various types for Wikipedia. Every map generated with this script produces (as SVG comments) a command line that can be used to generate the map, something like the following: I will add a tutorial, of sorts, to my user page in the next day or so, and I guess I could put a link to that on the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Maps/Conventions page. gringer (talk) 08:10, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Alternatively, see here. gringer (talk) 08:36, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

My response about GIS template

is here: [12]. LADave (talk) 00:35, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Saw. Thanks for your answer, I thus move toward a new template ! Yug (talk) 05:40, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

QGis lesson 1

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Shuo Wen radicals

dear Yug, In your Shuowen radicals list there are four duplicate radicals and the total is 542, so when I remove the duplicates, only 538 radicals remain. Can you please add the missing ones? Is there some authoritative resource for the choice of Unicode characters representing the radicals? Thank you in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yannis1962 (talk • contribs) 19:20, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

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