Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/8 Flavahz

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:04, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

8 Flavahz

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The article's only grounds of notability is the dance group's appearance on America's Best Dance Crew, from which they were crowned the runner-up (WP:ONEEVENT). It seems there may be a couple of individual achievements between a few of the members (which, unfortunately, don't have any references to verify them), but collectively as a group, 8 Flavahz haven't done anything note-worthy besides ABDC. Most of the information on the page about their appearance on the show can already be found at America's Best Dance Crew (season 7). It is written from a fan's point of view (WP:FAN) and lacks sufficient third-party references (WP:THIRDPARTY). WANI ^♪♫♪ 17:35, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:29, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:29, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I finally took a look at the link to the 8 Flavahz website, but it is still under construction. I had assumed the author wrote the article's introductory paragraph based on information from the website, so it appears to be made entirely of original research (WP:OR). WANI ^♪♫♪ 22:30, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:17, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, →TSU ^tp* 11:01, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — TheSpecialUser ^(TSU) 14:39, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The crew is notable for more than just ABDC as the members have appeared in music videos, movies, and other television performances and the author has provided citations for almost all of these events. I guess references were added after this article was nominated for deletion. References are also provided for the "history" section which discusses how the group formed before appearing on America's Best Dance Crew. This happened namely through World of Dance which, from my understanding, is a fairly large scale street dance competition. After reviewing the references, I feel that they meet the grounds of establishing the crew's notability as outlined in WP:GNG. They are all secondary sources so they meet WP:THIRDPARTY as well. I just fact checked all the refs. The CollectiveUth ref wasn't working for me and the Hollywood Reporter ref doesn't prove that Charlize was in Rage Crew and/or present during that performance. However, the other 11 citations were working and they did validate the sentences that they supported. Aside from that, the article's tone is appropriate since it doesn't sound like an advertisement and it isn't unambiguously promotional. My only qualms are the "Flavah" column in the members' table as I view this as pure WP:FANCRUFT and the "dance competitions" category tag which is inappropriate since 8 Flavahs is not a competition but a dance crew that has participated in competitions. However, these are easily rememdied by simply removing them. For all these reasons, I vote "keep". 132.3.17.68 (talk) 20:10, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Yes, I nominated this article almost four weeks ago. Back then, it was little more then...well, what I explained up in my original description above. Now that the article has developed, and notability has been established beyond their appearance on America's Best Dance Crew, I am striking out my original comments and voting Keep as well. WANI ^♪♫♪ 21:59, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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