Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afghanistan national under-17 football team

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:46, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Afghanistan national under-17 football team

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It just says "is controlled by Afghanistan Football Federation and represents Afghanistan in international under-17 football competitions", which is pretty common as a national afghan side will be controlled by the afghan federation only and a "national under-17 football team" will represent the nation in international under-17 football competitions only. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 15:44, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 15:45, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Afghanistan-related deletion discussions. —ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 15:45, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say Keep as we have a slew of Under 17 national football teams (categorised by continental governing body) and it would be reinforcing WP:BIAS to delete this article. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 15:52, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Neutral~~ - The precedent on Wikipedia does seem to be to keep national youth football teams. However, we need to be wary of falling into the Pokemon test trap. I'm stuck between the two places at the moment... I found this source, but I have serious doubts about its reliability, and one source wouldn't be enough anyway. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 16:28, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I am the creator of this article. It is just a start and i will provide you full details of the team and information. Please do not delete this article and let me complete the task. Thanks--Ahmadfaisalsidiqi (talk) 16:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This was posted at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Afghanistan national under-17 football team. I copied it and pasted it directly onto this page. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 19:25, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The "other stuff exists" argument is obviously not a valid Keep rationale. This sounds more like a kiddie sports competition, and not like Olympic level international sports. We routinely delete articles about high school athletes and teams, and this sounds like more of the same. Edison (talk) 05:35, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is international football under the FIFA governing body, not high-school athletics. And when it comes to sports, it's common that teams of a certain level are presumed notable - that's a WP:CONSENSUS argument, not WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. As [Category:Under-17 association football] is full of articles, it seems reasonable to assume that international teams at this level is considered notable. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 16:02, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm leaning to support this view, actually. The general consensus on Wikipedia does seem to be that an international U-17 football team is notable, by merit of being at an international level. I therefore change my vote to weak keep. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 16:06, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

After reading all comments and posts above about deleting of this article, I can now surely say that is now almost meet requirements and guidelines of Wikipedia. SO it should not be deleted, Because it is national team and is notable. I am the creator of this article, come to my talk and let me know your views. --Ahmadfaisalsidiqi (talk) 17:20, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but the article looks even worse now, having just one reference that too a blog. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 14:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 19:40, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have to response that this is a national team of a country and instead of deletion it should be expanded. And this national team is under governing body of Fifa. And the reference is from the official blog of Israfeel Kohistani National senior player and current captain of Afghanistan national football team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmadfaisalsidiqi (talk • contribs) 09:12, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep - yes, other stuff exists, but for a reason - this is a FIFA-affilated national youth team which competes at an international level. The article needs improving, not deleting, and I'd ask someone with more time than me to search here and here for possible sources. Giant Snowman 19:50, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 03:56, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, per general rationale of Giant. Its a rational additional to a logically-organized encyclopedia, and deletion would not improve the project. In any event, instead of nominating 9 minutes after creation, giving it six months would certainly cause no harm.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 04:30, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep No guidelines violated, passes WP:GNG, and in agreance with User:Milowent too soon to nominate for deletion. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 18:46, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep per GiantSnowman, Milowent, and Phoenix B 1of3. AfD is about concept, not quality. Bar Code Symmetry (Talk) 19:00, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Recognized by the group that handles official teams, so its fine, just like the hordes of other under-17 teams we have articles for. Category:Under-17 association football Dream Focus 03:59, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per Giantsnowman. Edinburgh Wanderer 20:19, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Giant Snowman and others. --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:39, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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