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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 00:57, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmed Benyahia

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The sources talk about another thing non name of Ahmed Benyahia , i found only one, but Ahmed Benhayia have only one exposition( MENTION OF BOOK GOOGLE),it's not notable --Great11 (talk) 01:17, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • As at Hassane Amraoui, my comments on which I'm assuming are the reason my participation here was solicited, the big problem is the quality of sources. I just checked each one individually, and here's the rundown: two of them don't actually mention Benyahia's name at all, one is a dead or mistyped link whose content I'm unable to verify at all, and a couple just list his name while containing no actual content about him. Only one link leads to an article that actually uses his name in a larger context, and even that one isn't a particularly substantial article. As always I'm willing to reconsider this if stronger sources start showing up, but we're pretty clearly on the delete side of the see-saw here. Bearcat (talk) 02:03, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment i told keep for Hassane Amraoui and i accept the score delete 4 and keep 2 ( no problem), but It is not same thing when I compare the sources Hassane Amraoui 2 pages many expose , museum , gallery, cat, book, news of country , web site, critic of specialist of art and multicultural and philosophy dimension, and writer and poet in Algeria or Tunisia or Montreal) [1] but Ahmed Benyahia only one expose , Why????? [2] PAGE 148 we can consult the difference ( but I have a question he live in France for many years ....probably I can found another expose but the writer have neutrality and he is notable????!!!!!!. i accept the score 4 delete and 2 keep ( no problem). Thank you--Great11 (talk) 05:16, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:38, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:38, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:38, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep I'd like to hear on the reliablity of current printed sources in the article. Being mentioned in the Le livre des peintres algériens: dictionnaire biographique seems like a potential criteria for notability. Ping me if counter arguments are presented. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:02, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - There's nothing mentioned about the subject, it's his name in passing. As for any book hits the book is just a listing of Algerian Artists, and the second is just an updated version of the 1st. No notability needed, just have to have painted a picture and be Algerian and you're listed in the book. Caffeyw (talk) 08:52, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I have fixed the ref to La Tribune, (and the bare url which also pointed to it) by finding the original on the wayback machine. It is a substantial article in a reputable newspaper. It is always more difficult to write articles about subjects where the sources are not in English, and probably in Arabic script, rather than Roman script. I'll see what else I can find in due course. I have since added details of his work for UNESCO, with a suitable ref. Bob1960evens (talk) 09:19, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • CommentIf we have La tribune article is notable ( in Algerai is difficult to acces to news papers in ligne , we have lot problem just to found for municipality you see , i will read that, I want another exposition you can help me and another news papers , we must have 2 minimum i think!!!!!!. he have two graduations, there is another raison possible exclusivity for Musuem of Constantine, we must search for that, In Algeria they are some painters they don't want show or sell self work. Thank you--Great11 (talk) 14:40, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Look at this no montion of the name http://www.jeune-independant.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=867 --Great11 (talk) 19:04, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This no name no montion , http://books.google.at/books?id=OnFJAQAAIAAJ&q=Voyages+d'artistes:+Algérie+03&dq=Voyages+d'artistes:+Algérie+03&hl=de&sa=X&ei=HsCzT7LtDZHitQaF1vSTBA&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA--Great11 (talk) 19:07, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This or context no name http://www.algeriephilatelie.net/fr_bibliotheque_poste_timbre.php?annee=1964&numero=401#.Uhz5PhYQSQs--Great11 (talk) 19:09, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

For Le journal l'Indépendant, oui c'est notable disant c'est un artiste engagé et que le texte parle plus de vision du monde, le seul commentaire que je peux relever c'est qu'il a fait une toile sur une pièce de Kateb Yacine. On peut dire c'est un solitaire et le titre le mentionne. Si on veut garder l'article , on doit tout refaire puisque les référence n'ont pas de liens avec l'article. J'ai fait la demande sur wiki français pour supprimer l'article, elle a été vite traitée puisque les références sont en français. I transat For The Independent newspaper, yes it is notable saying it is a committed artist and the text speaks more worldview, the only comment I can take is thathe painting piece of theatre Kateb Yacine. We can say he is a lonely and the title says ( the indépendant). If you want to keep the item, we must redo everything because the reference is not related with the article. I made the demand to remove the French wiki article, it was quickly treated as references are in French --Great11 (talk) 19:27, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is live politic no for painting http://www.vitaminedz.com/prison-du-coudiat-de-constantine/Articles_15688_73702_25_1.html--Great11 (talk) 21:51, 27 August 2013 (UTC) This is good but a blog http://yelles.blog.ca/2013/03/10/le-peintre-atlan-1913-196o-de-constantine-a-paris-ou-la-migration-du-regard-15613150/--Great11 (talk) 22:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC) This is goog but is politic, leader ship, etc , http://www.kml-filali.com/tr/component/content/article/56.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Great11 (talk • contribs) 22:08, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

google image ahmed benyahia no thing only one picture La tribune , please check with me possible we found any thing --Great11 (talk) 22:31, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

HI! Bob1960evens , he is painter , the article must focus for that not for his association to preserve Constantine , it is another thing , we must focus for his work painting , It'is important for notability of the painter , Thank you --Great11 (talk) 22:37, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Bob1960 evens, there is another Ahmed Benyahia caligraphe , he is natif from Fès Marocco. Thank you --Great11 (talk) 01:11, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proposition I think if we change the article and we delete just the category painter we can keep the article. What do you Think for that ? Is it correct in Wikipédia ???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Great11 (talk • contribs) 01:18, 28 August 2013 (UTC) --Great11 (talk) 01:20, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment There is no need to delete the category painter. Anyone who is notable has influence in other fields, and it is important that we know what else he achieved, in addition to his painting. I have added further details of his life and work based on his entry in the Encyclopedia of Algerian Postage Stamps, which includes him because he designed the stamp for the Algerian International Trade Exhibition in 1964. Bob1960evens (talk) 11:43, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok good he is notable for this , I keep And I will close the discussion , we have tree thing , Kateb yacine representation and stamps and la Tribune. I keep --Great11 (talk) 16:32, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

one delete — Preceding unsigned comment added by Great11 (talk • contribs) 16:41, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bearcat you accept or no please the decision ? --Great11 (talk) 21:52, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's not how this process works. There's no obligation for me to accept or not accept anything; our process does not require everyone to be unanimous in favouring a keep or a delete — there just has to be a consensus on one side or the other, there does not have to be 100% agreement. So I don't have to come back and change my argument from "delete" to "keep" — enough other people are convinced that it's keepable that it can be kept whether I revise my original argument or not. There have indeed been sourcing improvements, and the article is thus more legitimately keepable, but you don't need to personally summon me back for added input on whether I accept where the final consensus landed. That said, if you intend to withdraw your nomination given the sourcing improvements, then just say so and it can be closed early on the grounds that it was withdrawn, but that can also happen automatically without needing my personal consent. Bearcat (talk) 18:06, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok Bearcat, Thank you. --Great11 (talk) 22:44, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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