Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/All-time K-W United FC roster
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. No clear rationale for merging a list of non notable players into the club article when a link to the category is preferable in terms of maintaining balance in the article. Fenix down (talk) 10:15, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
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The parent article K–W United FC is barely notable itself and does not not need an all-time roster subpage. In particular, this list fails WP:LISTPEOPLE as the vast majority of names included do not meet the Wikipedia notability requirement. This topic is better suited for a category (Category:K-W United FC players) in my opinion. BLAIXX 11:10, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. BLAIXX 11:10, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
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Delete Full of redlinks unlikely to ever be filled out. Plus we don't even give a presumption of notability for players at this level, I fail to see how a collection of these players is notable enough to necessitate this article. Jay eyem (talk) 02:13, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. – Levivich 06:13, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
Delete – WP:NOTADIRECTORY, fails WP:LISTN, and a WP:FORK of the "notable former players" section of the K-W United FC article (which is a proper list, limited to notable former players, and in the proper place). – Levivich 06:13, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - non-notable list of non-notable people. GiantSnowman 07:37, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
- Weak keep or merge to K–W United FC - If the team is deemed notable then a list of players is likely legitimate content for the encyclopedia. Whether this list is in K–W United FC, split out into this separate list or not included anywhere is a decision for the article editors, not AfD. ~Kvng (talk) 12:24, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
- Not to argue with your vote, but I want to record my strong disagreement with the principle that if a team is notable, a list of its players is therefore encyclopedic content, which I think is exactly what WP:NOTADIRECTORY is about. We wouldn't, for example, have a complete list of the employees, or even the executives, officers or directors, of a company, no matter how notable the company is. We wouldn't have a complete list of all the residents of a notable town. A complete roster is, in my opinion, the very opposite of encyclopedic content, which is about curation and summation, not exhaustively-complete documentation. That is one of the very key differences between an encyclopedia, on the one hand, and a directory or an almanac, on the other. </rant> – Levivich 23:56, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
- Sure but my point is that I see this as either being kept or merged or redirected to the club's article; I don't see a good case or need for outright deletion. Whenever matters like this can be handled with bold edits instead of deletion, we all come out ahead. ~Kvng (talk) 13:55, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- Not to argue with your vote, but I want to record my strong disagreement with the principle that if a team is notable, a list of its players is therefore encyclopedic content, which I think is exactly what WP:NOTADIRECTORY is about. We wouldn't, for example, have a complete list of the employees, or even the executives, officers or directors, of a company, no matter how notable the company is. We wouldn't have a complete list of all the residents of a notable town. A complete roster is, in my opinion, the very opposite of encyclopedic content, which is about curation and summation, not exhaustively-complete documentation. That is one of the very key differences between an encyclopedia, on the one hand, and a directory or an almanac, on the other. </rant> – Levivich 23:56, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
- Delete or Merge to K-W United FC - The main thing here is the fact that its already part of the K-W United article and it doesn't really need to be seperated into a seperate article. Also if we are going to delete this page, may I also add All-time Hamilton FC roster to this discussion as this is a redirect to the article in question. HawkAussie (talk) 22:44, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support considering redirect as a part of this AfD, seems uncontroversial and the outcome would presumably be the same. Jay eyem (talk) 02:27, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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