Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/An Se-wook
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to An Se-uk. Liz Read! Talk! 06:22, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:51, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
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- Delete fails WP:ATHLETE Karnataka (talk) 09:27, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:41, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per new sources below. AGF and trusting they show the significant coverage claimed. GiantSnowman 07:31, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Sources have been found @GiantSnowman. He was the joint head coach of the united Korean youth football team in 1991 which received significant, continuing coverage. Here are multiple instances of coverage: [1], [2], [3], [4], etc. :3 F4U (they/it) 12:45, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, GiantSnowman, the sources from above are definitely not SIGCOV: 1) merely repeats what Ahn said with zero coverage of him ; 2) is a single trivial mention ; 3) is a rehash of a press release from NK stating it had given Ahn an award, with no SIGCOV of him to boot ; 4) is a trivial mention plus a quote in a news broadcast transcript . JoelleJay (talk) 21:16, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
- @JoelleJay I apologize regarding the first source, I was under the impression that SIGCOV of his coaching strategy was equivalent to SIGCOV of An himself. I've found a more in-depth source about Coach An himself [5]. I'm sure I can find more, there's a lot of sourcing on him. :3 F4U (they/it) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
- Please find more sources, and in future do not present trivial sources as significant. GiantSnowman 15:59, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
- @JoelleJay I apologize regarding the first source, I was under the impression that SIGCOV of his coaching strategy was equivalent to SIGCOV of An himself. I've found a more in-depth source about Coach An himself [5]. I'm sure I can find more, there's a lot of sourcing on him. :3 F4U (they/it) 13:59, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:19, 31 July 2023 (UTC)- Weak keep - If he represented during the 1976 Olympics, I'd say he's notable. More citations on him and his coverage is definitely needed though IowaBird (talk) 19:26, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- Commment I've just discovered something. An Se-uk <- This is the same guy. The articles need to merged together. :3 F4U (they/it) 15:22, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
- The merged title should be
An Se-uk
following MOS:KO which states that we should use MR romanization when there's no accepted English common name. :3 F4U (they/it) 15:25, 31 July 2023 (UTC)- I think An Se-uk should be a redirect to here, Since this page has more info IowaBird (talk) 19:21, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- The merged title should be
- Keep - Per F4U. Clearly significant figure in North Korean football. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 16:46, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep per sources showing GNG being passed (threshold for 1970s North Korean footballers must be taken into account), and merge with An Se-uk as it is the same guy. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:16, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Three deletes, four keeps, and a merge - I don't see a clear consensus here. Relisting for a second time to hopefully garner some more discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dusti*Let's talk!* 11:17, 7 August 2023 (UTC)- If kept, there's already a clear consensus for a merge because the two articles are about the same person. Really what we're discussing here is whether or not both An Se-wook and An Se-uk should be deleted. :3 F4U (they/it) 18:56, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep The article in the Korea wikipedia only mentions him, but because he was the coach of a combined Korean team in 1991, he comes up a lot, and not as a WP:BLP1E. He's also from a place where it's difficult to get information about. This will probably always be a stub, but there's enough out there for a good encyclopedia article. It should also be merged - I have no opinion on which article gets merged where, just that we maintain all the information here. SportingFlyer T·C 20:33, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. I'd like to see if there is more support for a Merger.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 16:28, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - @Liz: if the result is keep, you can close it now. A merger will have to be performed, it's not a question of discussion, there are currently two articles for the same person. Paul Vaurie (talk) 19:38, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- Exactly this. I did already state this above, but we currently have two duplicative articles about the same person (because his name can be romanized in more than one way). :3 F4U (they/it) 13:14, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
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