Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andi Qerfozi

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The result was delete. Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 00:28, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Andi Qerfozi

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested on the grounds that the article might meet WP:GNG based on the sources listed. However, these are routine sports generally considered insufficient to meet WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:25, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:NFOOTY. No evidence he meets WP:GNG either. Can be undeleted if and when he plays for Grasshopper. Smartyllama (talk) 15:08, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Smartyllama and Sir Sputnik Some of the sources currently in the article look like they might meet the GNG criteria of in-depth coverage in multiple reliable sources. GNG's a higher bar than NFOOTY but this chap might pass it, which wouldn't be unheard of. We've had footballers who've passed GNG before they step on a 1st XI pitch before. I'd appreciate a view on this instance from you. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 16:01, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(edit-conflict) Of the sources listed, only the first one is not very clearly routine coverage. Sources two and three are database entries, which WP:NSPORT actually addresses explicitly: Trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may be used to support content in an article, but it is not sufficient to establish notability. This includes listings in database sources with low, wide-sweeping generic standards of inclusion. Four and six are transfer announcements, which are usually not considered sufficient for general notability. (See this afd for a recent example.) Five is a squad list which does not cover the subject in any sort of detail. The first source approaches significance, but I would argue that it is too short and insufficiently neutral to be indicative of general notability by itself. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:29, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Great answer, thanks. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 21:04, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails NFOOTY as has not played or managed senior international football nor played or managed in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Of the sources in the artice, this is the only one that seems to say anything more than routine transfer talk, match reportin or squad call ups. Not really seeing GNG here at the moment. Fenix down (talk) 16:14, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 18:09, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I'm creator of this article and I agree that fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL but he just moved at Swiss Super League side Grasshopper (see References) and they will play their first match in less than 2 weeks so please can we wait until there before deleted his article. Thank you. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 19:18, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is a long standing consensus against applying WP:NFOOTY prematurely in anticipation of debut. The page can always restored, if and when he makes first appearance for Grasshoper. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:59, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I'm convinced. And undelete it if he doesn't have a calamitous accident or fallout with the management that prevents him debuting, per WP:CRYSTAL. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 21:04, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete - I'm not sure this article would pass the GNG. This footballer has been the subject of some coverage for his exploits at amateur/semi-pro level (St. Galler Tagblatt covered his 5-goal performance [here http://www.tagblatt.ch/ostschweiz/thurgau/regionalsport/kreuzlingen-bezwingt-wil;art123846,4990075]), and it's certainly possible he will garner more coverage with Grasshopper Club, but probably not until then. Jogurney (talk) 22:27, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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