Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anita Yadav
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Keep votes have no policy basis. The argument that this article fails the Gng or any other SNG has not been refuted. Spartaz Humbug! 09:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
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Biography of the daughter of the President of Nepal. Notability is not inherited, and I am not able to find significant coverage of Anita Yadav herself in reliable third-party sources. All references are mentions of her name in articles about her father. The article seems to indicate that she is also a politician but I find no sources for this. bonadea contributions talk 15:37, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
- Try also:
- Keep. Seems notable among Category:Nepalese women covered in Wikipedia, for not being among the Category:Nepalese beauty pageant winners, Category:Nepalese actresses, Category:Nepalese female models, or Category:Nepalese female prostitutes!!!! Seriously there appears to be an issue in Wikipedia coverage in this area. --doncram 22:33, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
- Further:
- There is a woman of same name elected as a politician in India's Rewari district in the Indian state of Haryana, per this myneta.info page, who appears to be a different person. Haryana is in India's north, not bordering but not too far from Nepal.
- In Wikipedia's coverage of U.S. president's daughters, we apparently don't allow there to be a separate article about either Malia Obama or Natasha Obama, but rather cover them in a section in Family of Barack Obama. Wikipedia does allow significant coverage of them, however. Note we do allow there to be separate articles about Bo (dog) and about another Obama family pet. I didn't participate but I expect there was lots of debate about Malia and Sasha. I tend to think we oughta acknowledge that coverage is coverage. Anyhow redirecting, rather than deleting, would be preferable in this case too, like for the Obama daughters.
- TelegraphNepal.Com calls Anita "illustrious", in passing (complete sentence is: "We have so far failed to understand his gluttony to make free junkets abroad albeit along with his illustrious daughter Anita Yadav-the new princess who has replaced Sujata Koirala-the German national who tentatively drained the nation when his [sic] late father Girija Prasad Koirala was alive.") :) Sujata Koirala, daughter of a president, later became Foreign Minister. Maybe Anita Yadav is automatically a political candidate, too, as notability is often quite literally inherited....
- I rather expect there is more coverage in Nepali and other languages of Nepal. Trying Google search on "अनिता यादव" brings up a number of hits, and then one can chose "translate this page", but this one turns out to be a translation from Hindi, perhaps about the Indian woman politician instead? There are many like this one that I cannot evaluate. I am not going through them all; we need perspective of some South Asian language speakers I think.
- Confusingly, Anita Yadav of Nepal travels to India, too, and gets coverage in English and no doubt also in Hindu language in India, at least with her father, e.g. as in this Hindustan Times photo and caption.
- What does Anita Yadav herself prefer, about having a Wikipedia article or not? That has relevance apparently.
- I stay with "Keep" vote but would defer to a local language(s) speaker who can evaluate better. --doncram 00:38, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
- Further:
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nepal-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:45, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:45, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. Sujata Koirala was not the first lady of Nepal. she was daughter if prime minister of Nepal. Dr Ram Baran yadav is the first President of Nepal and His wife died back in 1983 and he was never married again. Nepal presents Ms anita yadav as first lady since president does not have wife. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Damauli (talk • contribs) 11:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 08:40, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 08:40, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep based on available info and official website ( http://presidentofnepal.gov.np/Contents/president.html) of President of Nepal listed Anita yadav is is a daughter of president and social worker. --damauli (talk) 12:35, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Sorry, not a valid reason. Notability is not inherited. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:56, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
- Redirect to a new page discussing activities of the family members of her father president Ram Baran Yadav, or else Delete this article as she and her other family members have no significant and independent coverage in the media of Nepal or elsewhere. The article seems to be created by herself, more as an advertisement and garner more weightage.49.244.210.41 (talk) 16:42, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
- First of all I am not related to Anita yadav who is daughter of president of Nepal. There are are so many corrupt politicians and social worker in Nepal. I came to know that she has master degree from UK and also bring daughter if president she maintain very simple lie and spend more time to uplift the poor communities in Nepal developing country like Nepal needs leader like her. I originally from Nepal and I do care about that country and want to give expose to the media. This is all I am doing. People like her need some exposer. Instead of having pages for corrupt politicians we need to encourage young people like her to uplift community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.41.244.59 (talk) 14:56, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- Delete The quality of the sources does not justify having a seperate article on her.John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:04, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. If being "First Daughter" gives her a formal role in public life (such as helping host state banquets) we should keep this. If not, then not. While within Wikipedia notability cannot be inherited from article to article (it's not because a notable author wrote about a topic that the topic itself is notable), in the real world notability often is literally inherited. We can't pretend not just because we have a policy about the "heritability" of notability. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 13:58, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. I know facebook (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Anita-Yadav/676721165769148) is not the reliable source for wikipedia but if some one is contributing to the society to uplift the community and empower women to have better world then she should have page. wikipedia should encourage people like her not discourage. As far as notability goes i do see some sort of (Significant coverage, Reliable, Sources, Independent of the subject ,Presumed )on the page we are discussing. if Jenna Bush Hager and other first daughter can have page then why some one who is educated working for poor people to uplift their life directly and indirectly can't have her own wikipedia page. Media in nepal is bias. they do not cover unless some one as some political motive. Ms anita does not belong to any party she does social work.--damauli 13:58, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- Delete no evidence of independent notability. I agree wholeheartedly with doncram that coverage of Nepalese women needs expansion; however this is not an appropriate choice for that. Pick people who clearly meet one of the non-GNG specific criteria and write about them. --Bejnar (talk) 21:06, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. Several comments above by Damauli and 2 different IP addresses suggest local Nepali view that Anita Yadav is significant and notable. Damauli's comment that "Nepal presents Ms anita yadav as first lady since president does not have wife." seems very important to me. That is entirely consistent with the Hindustan Times coverage of her accompanying her father on a state visit to India ( photo and caption ). I believe it. It would be great if these Nepal-informed editors could provide references here, whether in English or non-English languages, whether linkable on-line or only available in print somewhere, that support her importance. Any source supporting the assertion that Anita Yadav serves as first lady, in effect, should suffice to convince everyone here save this article, in my view (though others could still disagree). Really, please try! However these Nepal-associated editors might not be able to do so, maybe not within the timeframe of this AFD, and maybe they are not yet capable of doing this in English and meeting Wikipedia requirements. I think it would be poor to have this article deleted when there seems to be sincere Nepal-associated view that the person is clearly notable. I think we should assume good faith wp:AGF and believe that a) the person really is important and b) that will be shown eventually by reliable sources that eventually will be provided. I think Keeping this article will be more likely to further contributions and development by these Nepal editors and friends, than deleting it on basis that it doesn't meet some high standard that is not properly understood or immediately achievable by these editors. I "voted" Keep above already. --doncram 21:35, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
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