Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anti-Bihari sentiment

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The result was keep. Clearly meets GNG by consensus; no need to prolong (non-admin closure) Britishfinance (talk) 12:56, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Bihari sentiment

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Most of the sources refer to discrimination against North Indian labourers in general and not just Biharis. A lot of the stuff is original research connecting Bihars relative poverty with the discrimination despite the sources themselves making no such connection. It seems to be written as if it’s somebodies personal essay. Ideally, the page should be either deleted or renamed to “Anti-North India sentiment”. The remaining news sources could be merged into Bihar or Biharis. I’m new to this and used the twinkle tool so apologies if this isn’t formatted correctly. YaRaabAlHind (talk) 10:40, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I don’t agree with the nominator. I haven’t looked at all 59 sources but the ones I have checked are all specifically about Biharis and not just North Indians generally. The topic is clearly notable on this basis. Some of the incidents in the article are a bit weak in terms of how far we can be sure they are really instances of anti-Bihari sentiment and there are some bold sweeping statements that are probably not right in terms of tone. However a need for some pruning and rewriting does not make a case for deletion. Mccapra (talk) 03:24, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- On what basis do any of the sources speak of a general Anti-Bihari sentiment? None of them do to my knowledge. And please post the sources which talk of this “Anti-Bihari sentiment”. This is clearly original research. Also, please show me the sources that link the section detailing economic matters and how they link with a general “anti-Bihari sentiment”. Please don’t support original research.YaRaabAlHind (talk) 21:17, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 16:49, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I’m referring to the sources provided in the article. Any editor can judge for themselves what they refer to. In the case of the ones I looked at they were clearly instances of people in other parts of India being hostile to Biharis. Mccapra (talk) 23:15, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

and I have asked you to post these sources and show they are anything other than isolated incidents. Can you please post them. Furthermore, if you are aware of Wikipedia’s policy on original research then you will be aware that connecting different unrelated incidents is in violation of this. Unless something can be produced detailing that these incidents are part of a larger anti-Bihari sentiment, then it is original research.YaRaabAlHind (talk) 13:42, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I heard you. I am not posting sources in this discussion because I am not basing my !vote on anything that is not already accessible to anyone who reads the article. There is no purpose in my copying things here. Anyone who wishes to form a view on the validity of the article can just read it and look at the sources provided. Maybe they will agree with you that there is no such thing as anti-Bihari sentiment and that the many cases documented are just isolated indicents, or maybe they won’t. I’ve already formed my own view thank you. Mccapra (talk) 16:37, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep an article needing a rewrite is not AfD material. WP:NOTCLEANUP. Passes GNG with reliable sources. Wm335td (talk) 19:33, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The article documents a well-known reality to anyone with a pair of eyes. Actually, it should be described as 'anti-Bihari racism'. If it needs corrections, so be it, but it's relevant and generalized enough. --MaeseLeon (talk) 21:55, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Bihari is not a race. Plus the article lead details attacks against people from Uttar Pradesh Thekua (talk) 10:37, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete← as per poster, this is mostly original research. A bunch of unconnected incidents termed as part of some perceived racist sentiment.Thekua (talk) 10:36, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - passes WP:GNG, plenty of ok sources. Article in need of a re-write I guess but it is not a reason for deletion.BabbaQ (talk) 19:44, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - based on a cursory review of the English-language sources, with significant coverage, it appears to be a real and notable concept. Bearian (talk) 01:17, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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