Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anti-Revisionist

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep, unsigned opinion discounted. Sandstein (talk) 07:22, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Revisionist

One huge neo-communist original research and POV fork of Stalinism (the article itself says it openly: "Anti-revisionism (known to its detractors as "Stalinism")"). `'Míkka >t 17:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I looked briefly into other artciles on Communist theory linked from Portal:Communism and have an impression that wikipedia, among other drawbacks, is turned into vehicle of unreferenced POV which is commonly called Communist propaganda, since it seems no one really cares about Communism today besides communists themselves, and many of them are sterile clear of any criticism. `'Míkka >t 18:13, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clean up current article is POV and an exercise in apologetics, but there is a clear difference in topic between it and the Stalinism article. The Stalinism article currently discusses speicifically the ideology and practices of Stalin whilst this article discusses the ideology of people post-Stalin who we would commonly call "Stalinist".Nick Connolly (talk) 19:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- If you aree right, then the articles must probably be merged. Just as Marxism did not die together with Marx, Stalinism apparently didn't die with Stalin. `'Míkka>t 20:24, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - hmmm, not sure. The Stalinism article is fairly substantial. It would probably content-fork to a Stalinism-after-stalin anyway. Needs a neutral look, and I'm not sure I'm neutral enough on the issue.Nick Connolly (talk) 22:27, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep. This is an important concept in 20th century history. Comments here suggest the user is concerned about the concepts ("no-one really cares about Communism today besides communists themselves"), not their encyclopedic importance. I'm suggesting a speedy close. Mostlyharmless (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This article is horrible! Non-stop POV! That being said, the topic is important and distinct from Stalinism, it needs to be made neutral and given a general cleanup, but with that it could be something very valuable. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 23:11, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. We are deleting articles, not topics. "A general cleanup" means rewriting from scratch. First of all, the term "anti-revisionism" is used not only by Marxists. Second, within Marxism anti-revisionism is not a homogeneous meaning. In particular, A-R is one of declared traits and slogans of Maoism. etc... (afd is not the place for these talks, anyway). `'Míkka >t 03:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, Anti-Revisionism is a notable concept in Marxist movements, it is not identical other articles. Also, I moved this to 'Anti-Revisionism', i suppose such a move wasn't controversial. --Soman (talk) 08:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, it is patent nonsense.
Keep, anti-revisionism is an important, distinct concept and is not simply "Stalinism". It is associated with Maoism and Hoxhaism, only the latter of which can fairly be equated with the notion of "Stalinism". It would make just as much sense to merge Maoism into the Stalinism article (none at all). Everyking (talk) 07:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.