Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Antonio Puig

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The result was delete. Black Kite 01:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Antonio Puig

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Declined prod. Article contains no reliable secondary sources to establish notability. --Explodicle (T/C) 16:15, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:29, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment -- I expect that any such sources will be in Spanish. I've asked Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spain for help to find out, either way. Maurreen (talk) 16:38, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, ~~certainly exists and is known in Spain, but I have only found one source so far, which I added. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:45, 4 March 2010 (UTC)~~[reply]
Delete the only reference in the article is a link to a book he wrote. Yes, he wrote a book. After searching for 20+ minutes in English and Spanish, I found ZERO independent sources discussing him. Here is a "Antonio+Puig"+OR+"antonio+del+puig"+OR+"antonio+j+del+puig"+OR+"antonio+jose+del+puig"+poeta+OR+escritor+-"Puig+Campillo"+-wikipedia+-perfume+-perfumes+-"Don+Antonio"+-"PUIG%2C+S.+A."+-"PUIG+JANE"+-"D.+Antonio"+-toilette+-Blanch+-"puig+sa" link to my google query if you're interested. The problem is there are a lot of false positives. Someone prominent in Spain in the 1990s would have secondary sources findable on the internet - it's not from long ago or a developing country. Calliopejen1 (talk) 13:22, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Agreed that online sources seem to not be there. It is possible that print sources in Spanish may be there, but I only have access to online Spanish sources. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My view is that a writer currently active in a developed country who doesn't have any web presence is not notable. If print sources turn up later, this could be recreated, but I strongly doubt anything of substance exists. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:39, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I also note that the book you linked to in Google books is not held by any library in WorldCat or by any of the Spanish library catalogs individually linked in the ISBN link page. The article, both here and at es.wiki, was written by User:Antonio Puig. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:42, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete (change position): Ahah, I hadn't checked that. It is somewhat strange as the books exist, but now I see that the press "Editorial Vision Net" is a self publishing company [1]. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:02, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Two of the other books are listed at theBiblioteca Nacional de España [2] , but that probably isn't enough for notability. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:22, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment -- When I de-prodded the article, I did so because it seemed like a borderline case concerning notability. But any case seems to be getting weaker all the time. Maurreen (talk) 09:42, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.