Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barefoot Catalogue

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There's not much discussion, but ultimately the "delete" arguments are stronger: their point that there are not adequate reliable sources for this topic has remained unrebutted. Moving the page to the title John Barefoot, as has been suggested, wouldn't solve the sourcing problem, or would even aggravate it because the article would then be a WP:BLP. Sandstein 08:56, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Barefoot Catalogue

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I get 97 Google hits for this (quoted), none of them RS. Sources establish existence, but not significance. Guy (help! - typo?) 21:30, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:42, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:42, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Barefoot is the most well known publisher of revenue stamp catalogues, probably not easily known to non-philatelists. You are unlikely to find online sources but his work is well listed and mentioned by several philatelic organisations or publications, such as the Royal Philatelic Society London [1]. ww2censor (talk) 10:30, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Ww2censor, being listed as a catalogue in a database is not actually a source. We need sources about the subject. Guy (help! - typo?) 11:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - As I stated you will likely not find online sources the speak about this catalogue other than historic listings. The Linns Stamp News, a well respected independent philately news source, already quoted in the article is most likely one of the best you will find for now. With access to hard copy philatelic magazines, which are hard to get without visiting a philatelic library, I am sure we could do better. 14:14, 4 May 2021 (UTC)ww2censor (talk)
Comment: I had created this article back in 2013. As ww2censor (talk · contribs) has said, Barefoot is one of the leading revenue stamp catalogue publishers at the moment. The catalogues seem to be edited and published by one person so I wouldn't mind moving the article to John Barefoot and restructuring it accordingly (something along the lines of other articles about philatelic publishers, eg. Alfred Forbin or Douglas Myall). Of course, the main problem is that revenue stamps are a relatively obscure field even within philately, so finding adequate sources is difficult.

@JzG: Could you please give an idea what you would consider to be reliable sources for Wikipedia articles on stamp catalogues? I see that even articles on major postage stamp catalogues (eg. Stanley Gibbons catalogue, Scott catalogue, Michel catalog, Yvert et Tellier) generally lack reliable sources. Xwejnusgozo (talk) 11:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sources that are about the subject rather than just listing editions of the catalogue or mentioning that a stamp is in the catalogue. I'm also happy with a redirect to John barefoot, which seems to resolve the issue. Guy (help! - typo?) 11:47, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:29, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.