Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Vromopigada

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page, if it exists; or after the end of this archived section. The result of the debate was no consensus. Mackensen (talk) 16:14, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Battle of Vromopigada

I think this may be a hoax, but it's just believable enough (or I'm just gullible enough) to prevent me suggesting its speedy deletion. Google finds no entries on "Battle of Vromopigada", and "Vromipigada" only turns up one entry, a reference to its meaning "dirty wells". -- RobertG ♬ talk 15:16, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Delete: At most, this should be merged into whatever war it's part of. We have no articles on the supposed peoples involved, and this may well be a prank. Throwing bodies into wells is a time honored war crime. Geogre 16:54, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Neutral. The Maniots are the people of the Mani Peninsula, Greece. They fought several wars against the Ottoman Empire in the 15th and 16th centuries, including the Venetian-Ottoman War of 1463–1478 when they were allied with Venice. Also, I note that πιγαδι means "well". My intuition says that the article is describing a real event for which there are few sources in English, but unfortunately it doesn't give enough information to pin it down. A date would help. Gdr 17:16, 2005 Jun 13 (UTC)
• Keep. I've found an online reference that may point towards the story

Let us not forget that hundreds of Kuyucu Murat Pasha (Ottoman general, died 1611, who massacred rebels in the Taurus mountains and had their bodies thrown into wells.) though unless I'm very confused...it's the exact opposite of the Wiki's claim, that the Maniots were the ones desacrating bodies Sherurcij 22:27, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

• Delete or merge - agree is too short w/o context -- if one is found. Might be a good candidate for RfC on Village Pump to see if context/depth develops. [[User:Fabartus| User:fabartus || TalktoMe]] 02:36, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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• Keep. I come from Mani and all the locals and people I've talked to, have said there was such a battle. The exactlocation is known. It is said to have taken place in a field next to the road that goes up to Parasyros.