Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Vuhledar

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 13:24, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Vuhledar

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This article is for a minor engagement not named in sources that I can see. It falls to WP:NOTNEWS. Even though there are news sources referring to the engagement, I do not believe that it is sufficient to meet WP:N. It is padded out with material not directly relating to the topic per WP:COATRACK. It is an unnecessary WP:CFORK. Cinderella157 (talk) 07:59, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military, Russia, and Ukraine. Shellwood (talk) 12:31, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose so why are there counteroffensives near so russians don't capture the town? Dawsongfg (talk) 20:53, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No sources confirming Russian attempts to capture the town since early March. The two recent attempted Ukrainian counterattacks (one mostly repelled), have been reported by ISW to be limited in nature and with the aim of drawing away Russian forces from the offensive in Luhansk, so unrelated to Vuhledar. EkoGraf (talk) 23:00, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

still notable enough to gain attention from a few sources (while ago but still) https://www.google.com/search?q=vuhledar&rlz=1C1SQJL_enUS912US912&tbm=nws&sxsrf=ALiCzsY527lttW04Sr-xTSdKQncpNn3wyQ:1657161661097&ei=vUfGYp3KBdSjptQPlMOouAU&start=0&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwjdnJSh4OX4AhXUkYkEHZQhClc4FBDy0wN6BAgBEDc&biw=1920&bih=937&dpr=1 Dawsongfg (talk) 02:41, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All (mostly outdated) reports talk about non-notable and sporadic frontline clashes near Vuhledar. Nothing about a battle for the town. EkoGraf (talk) 16:22, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well still per Jebiguess it appears active part of front. Dawsongfg (talk) 05:45, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Again, non-notable, not an event and certainly not a battle (see WP:OR and WP:SYNTH). Only sporadic activity with long periods of inactivity. Only offensive actions in the area were in mid-March (Russian) and early July (Ukrainian) for a period of a couple of days (so even those were limited). And as Cinderella157 said, we are not here to predict what might happen as per WP:NOTACRYSTALBALL. EkoGraf (talk) 11:10, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Non-notable event and also no sources confirming an actual battle for the town. The little information there is can be (if its not already) covered in Eastern Ukraine offensive. EkoGraf (talk) 13:50, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Let's hold off on deletion for now, until more sources come through. From what I've seen, Vuhledar is a rather active part of the front, although there haven't been many journalists in the area and therefore a scarcity of information giving the illusion of silence there.Jebiguess (talk) 20:25, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTACRYSTALBALL Cinderella157 (talk) 00:27, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I'm not fond of deleting such articles, but having googled a little bit I didn't find any sources. The absence of Ukrainian wikipedia page is also contributing to the Delete rather than Keep. --IgorTurzh (talk) 10:46, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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