Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belfield FM

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The result was keep. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:13, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Belfield FM

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Fails WP:NOTABLE. All the sources are either primary sources, or only mention the radio station in passing. I'd reckon the "Keep It Country" situation has enough sources to be in its own article, however in all the sources mentioned in WP:ANI more mention the situation in detail; not the radio station, which again, gets mentioned in passing. Whilst the Keep It Country situation could stand a probable chance of passing WP:NOTABLE, the radio station on its own, does not. Thus the reason why I am proposing this article for deletion. The Duke 18:26, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 18:42, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. IntoThinAir (talk) 18:59, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Licensed radio stations — including those that have ceased operation — are usually considered notable. See WP:NRADIO. "Student media, such as over-the-air college radio stations and student newspapers, are not presumed non-notable just because they primarily serve a university or college student population, but are judged by the same inclusion standards as any other media outlet. A student newspaper or radio station which is deemed non-notable should always be redirected to the college or university that it serves."

I can't find this station on the list at https://www.bai.ie/en/broadcasters/ and I don't know why. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 07:24, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The only college stations listed there are ones with Community Licenses under section 64 of the 2009 Broadcasting Act, coincidentaly their contracts all tenured in 2017. Belfield FM, similar to many student organised station is Ireland, lacks the funding and ownership structure currently required to apply for a full time license i.e. the voluntary nature of the station means that it lacks a full time staff member to hold accountability. Belfield FM does meet all of the BAIs requirements otherwise as it: serves social benefit for its community of interest, is not run for profit, and has collective ownership from all of its members with a management committee representitive of the service. When the station was previously organised under the UCD Students Union, it had three paid staff and was broadcast wireless under the BAI as a pilot community temporary sound broadcast, allowing for 100 hours of broadcast per semester. Frequency was 97.3FM and later 107.8FM (there may have been others used over the years), with a range covering about a 5km diameter from the studio which was at the time referred to as "the Kiosk". Given its current budget, the station could still broadcast for about 30hours per annum by acquiring temporary licensing under section 68 of the 2009 Broadcasting Act as an institutional applicant. However, with the stations core audience being young college students, they have opted to exclusively broadcast online since disassociating from the SU in 2011, which only requires licensing from Phonographic Performance Ireland (PPI) under tariff 77. I'm sure the station was listed as a broadcaster on the BAI website back in the day! [Usertalk|Nibbihak] 12:48, 18/04/19 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nibbihak (talk • contribs) 12:49, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. So if it was a licensed broadcaster once upon a time, it was notable then, and once notable, always notable. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 13:31, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. If the station was formerly licensed, then it keeps its notability permanently even if it surrenders its license later on. It's true that the peak of notability here may be the "Keepin' It Country" situation, but that misses the actual point: an article about the radio station is exactly where content about a controversial radio show would be expected to be found, so that doesn't speak against the notability of the station itself. I was briefly reticent about the actual quality of the sources, because the ones present in the article are all from the directly affiliated university rather than genuinely independent media, but I easily found several more independent sources (including the actual literal Independent, which is one of the gold-standard sources for Irish topics) on a Google search — so that patches over the only potential deletion argument I could even have actually considered making. Bearcat (talk) 01:52, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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