Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bolaji Aluko
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. As a former head of a university, satisfies WP:NPROF. (non-admin closure) Goldsztajn (talk) 05:14, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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Not seeing any evidence this person passes WP:PROF Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:14, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators and Nigeria. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:14, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've looked. He seems to have been a professor of no special distinction or dishonor, and is now a Nigerian "technocrat" as he describes it in a YouTube video. Nicmart (talk) 17:17, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Deletion is not cleanup. This entity passes the notability criteria for academics#6 as the head of a Federal University and also the notability criteria for politicians for being the a state commissioner in Ekiti State. Best, Reading Beans 10:57, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Where does it say he is a head of the university? --50.46.167.81 (talk) 05:49, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- 50.46.167.81: The vice-chancellor is the actual head of institutions in Nigeria and being a commissioner is also a state-wide office and are a member of the state cabinet. Like I said earlier, this person is notable per NPROF and NPOL. Best, Reading Beans 07:21, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Where does it say he is a head of the university? --50.46.167.81 (talk) 05:49, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Merge or draftify: Of the 6 sources on the page right now, 2 are from LinkedIn and Facebook, one is a press release listing 9 vice-chancellor appointments (and the person is just one of them), one’s an interview, and another is a short article about him leaving his position in 2016. A few interesting facts:
- His dissertation dates back to 1984 but that's all I found in the academic sources about his publications:
- A definition of vice-chancellor in the United States: a vice chancellor (typically spelled without a hyphen) is an assistant to a chancellor, who is generally the (actual, not merely ceremonial) head of one campus of a large university which has several campuses. Does it make a person notable per se? I doubt it. Even assuming "vice-chancellor" in a Nigerian university means "vice of the university's head," it's still not enough.
- Finally, the editor who created the page back in 2009 has the username "Alukome." This raises a bit of a COI concern since the first 5 letters of that 7-letter username match the name of the page's subject. Either it's a divine coincidence, or there's something more going on here. I calculated it for other editors to verify: The probability of each letter in "Aluko" appearing in "Alukome" by random chance is 1/26. Since there are 5 letters, and they must appear in the exact sequence, the probability for the whole sequence "Aluko" is: 1/26*1/26*1/26*1/26*1/26 = 11,881,376. I'd say, it is pretty fair to assume a divine coincidence here.
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curprev 02:29, 18 October 2009 Alukome talk contribs 1,497 bytes +1,497 ←Created page with 'Dr. Mobolaji E. Aluko (b. 2nd April, 1955; in Lagos, Nigeria; home) is a professor of Chemical Engineering at Howard University, Washington, DC, and was Chair of i...' Tag: large unwikified new article
50.46.167.81 (talk) 05:49, 13 August 2024 (UTC) P.S. I updated my comment to suggest "merging" the page instead of deleting it, with the idea of incorporating it into the Federal University, Otuoke page. His role as vice-chancellor could be mentioned in the "Staff" section along with others who have held the position.50.46.167.81 (talk) 00:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- 50.46.167.81: In UK-based academic systems, which Nigeria and many other Commonwealth nations follow, "vice chancellor" is the actual head of the university. "Chancellor" is a ceremonial role. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:17, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- David Eppstein, thank you for clarifying. Does becoming the actual head of a university anywhere automatically grant a person notability in an encyclopedia? -- 50.46.167.81 (talk) 19:54, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Of a major university, yes. See WP:PROF#C6, already linked above by Reading Beans. I think a national university with 11k students is good enough to count for that. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:42, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if the number of students alone qualifies a university as "major." It might be better to first figure out which universities in Nigeria are actually considered major and what criteria—beyond student numbers—are used. Nigeria is a very populous country (over 230 million residents) with hundreds if not thousands of regional educational institutions. Can we call of them "major"? While it's clearer when it comes to separate Wikipedia pages for institutions, it's less obvious when it comes to the people running them. I think it's fair to be skeptical about labeling an institution as "major" unless there are some solid facts I might be missing. Either way, improving the sources would be a good move, since they're not exactly up to par with Wikipedia's guidelines right now. -- 50.46.167.81 (talk) 00:09, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Of a major university, yes. See WP:PROF#C6, already linked above by Reading Beans. I think a national university with 11k students is good enough to count for that. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:42, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- David Eppstein, thank you for clarifying. Does becoming the actual head of a university anywhere automatically grant a person notability in an encyclopedia? -- 50.46.167.81 (talk) 19:54, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:PROF#C6 -- highest (non-ceremonial) position at a significant institution of higher education. Full professor at Howard University as well is substantially above average professor test. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 23:59, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. Just being a full professor at an American university does not place an academic as substantially above the average as a professor. It's important to note that in certain other countries, being named a full professor at certain universities (like Cambridge) conveys the same status as a named professorship does in the US. But that's not the case here - this person did not hold a named chair at Howard. Qflib (talk) 04:51, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've had a hard time finding any citable publications by Aluke or even figuring out his h-index, which are usually good indicators of "academic notability." There are so many professors out there, and only a small fraction of them have a Wikipedia page. I just don’t see how "being a full time professor" alone should get someone their own page on Wikipedia. As for being the "vice chancellor of a major institution," I've already mentioned my doubts about that. I’ve shared all my concerns, and I don't really want to comment any further on this page and leave it to the other editors. -- 50.46.167.81 (talk) 00:12, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Reading Beans; there is a pass of WP:NACADEMIC criterion 6. In the Nigerian higher ed system (as with other commonwealth systems), "vice chancellor" is the top executive official of a university, equivalent to a U.S. university president. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:10, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - The administrative head of a Nigerian university is the Vice-Chancellor. The Vice-Chancellor is responsible for the overall administration, management, and leadership of the university, including academic, financial, and operational matters. The Chancellor is the ceremonial head of the institution. Unlike the Vice-Chancellor, who is involved in the day-to-day administration and management of the university. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 20:07, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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