Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Careful With That Axe (John 5 album)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 03:50, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Careful With That Axe (John 5 album)

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The title redirects to the article on John 5, the guitarist, and so this page should be merged into that article. Joel.Miles925 (talk) 18:06, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is about an individual album from John 5 (guitarist). Article needs expansion but is definitely noteworthy. Dane2007 (talk) 18:50, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 20:30, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 20:30, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to John 5 (guitarist). I do not see coverage sufficient for individual notability. K.e.coffman (talk) 20:34, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note It was also created at Careful with That Axe (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). I redirected that to Careful With That Axe (John 5 album). — JJMC89 (T·C) 21:06, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the article, as the dab was unnecessary and it's pretty uncontroversial. Just an FYI for whoever closes this. Sergecross73 msg me 13:33, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Plenty of RS coverage, from rather mainstream website's too. Failure of WP:BEFORE. Doubtful that anyone bothered to look.

As interviews, those lack independence from the artist. WP:NALBUM#C1 — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:04, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That depends on the content. Did you actually check them? Some vary, but look at the Blabbermouth one, for example. Most of the content is written by Blabbermouth staff, it's not interview format. Sergecross73 msg me 14:08, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I had checked them. The Blabbermouth one is okay. The other four are in interviews consisting mostly of quotes from the artist. — JJMC89 (T·C) 15:39, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Both the MusicRadar and Guitar.com sources have 4-5 paragraphs of prose before they even get into the interview part of it. That's third party written. They're not just conversation transcripts. Sergecross73 msg me 15:58, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Blabbermouth dedicated some more sources to the album too - http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rob-zombie-metal-obsession/ and http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rob-zombie-guitarist-john-5-to-release-this-is-my-rifle-single-next-month/ for example. Sergecross73 msg me 16:20, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or redirect "Careful With That Axe" - Careful With That Axe is a valid search term, which should be either kept or redirected. I am, however, indifferent on whether "Careful With That Axe (John 5 album)" should be kept, because the former is not ambiguous. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:19, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, if kept, it should be moved to the title without disambiguation, as there's nothing to disambiguate from. The "(John 5 album)" part of the title, per policy, isn't needed. Sergecross73 msg me 21:11, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note - I've completely rewritten the article with reliable, third party sources usable per WP:MUSIC/SOURCES. It's entirely different than it was at the time of nomination, and I've still got more to add too, so please look it over first before adding a stance. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 13:33, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note - It looks like the album charted as well. Sergecross73 msg me 16:11, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- change vote to keep because of the significant work that's been done on the article with new sources added. Songs for Sanity looks rather barren however. K.e.coffman (talk) 07:30, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for reconsidering. Yeah, it looks like a number of his articles could use work, but I do believe they're likely to be notable - he's played for so many big bands (Rob Zombie, Marilyn Manson) and done sessions work in the studio for so many other artists (that's what I'm familiar with him from - Anthems for the Damned) that he almost surely gets enough coverage to meet the WP:GNG for his releases. (I don't mean it in an "inherited way - I know WP:NOTINHERITED - I just mean, he's popular enough through other means that websites also cover his solo albums.) Sergecross73 msg me 18:11, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.