Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ChampionsGate

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was withdrawn by nominator. Reason: Snowball clause, merge is more appropriate. // Posted by larsona (Talk) // 03:50, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ChampionsGate

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Notability is questionable. // Posted by larsona (Talk) // 02:18, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's notable because people live there. All towns people live in should be listed on site. Hundreds of people live there. It's not just a golf course,it's a community people LIVE IN like Reunion and Celebration Florida. I've seen towns with 50 people have articles. Why don't yall try to make the article better — Preceding unsigned comment added by RjTa0m3Yu10D (talk • contribs) 02:19, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

http://content.usatoday.com/community/tags/topic.aspx?req=tag&tag=ChampionsGate Proof it's very notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RjTa0m3Yu10D (talk • contribs) 02:40, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I beg to differ. It is not a city, but a hotel. If there was a Wikipedia page for EVERY hotel, Wikipedia would become a travel agency, not a encyclopedia. As it is, there is no major press coverage or any warrant for there to be any notability. // Posted by larsona (Talk) // 02:42, 15 November 2015 (UTC) P.S.... THose news articles you provided are from 2003/2004 and make no specific refrence to "ChampionsGate." // Posted by larsona (Talk) // [reply]

Its not a hotel,its a place people live (few hundred) .There are articles on this site for many communities (even sections of towns). Orlando Sentinel is a notable paper. Do you think that Ernston New Jersey is notable too?? It's staying — Preceding unsigned comment added by RjTa0m3Yu10D (talk • contribs) 02:46, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find solid evidence to prove your claims (a census report, a news report, etc.), then you would prove your claim valid and the article would no longer be considered for deletion. However, as of now you have failed to provide solid evidence as to the notability of this 'community.' // Posted by larsona (Talk) // —Preceding undated comment added 02:50, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

According to this the population is about 100 according to this http://www.realtor.com/local/Championsgate-Village_Four-Corners_FL/lifestyle there is also this http://roadsidethoughts.com/fl/championsgate-xx-osceola-census.htm, Wikipedia has articles for nearly everywhere people live in the US (even Ernston New Jersey, Brownville New Jersey) why the double standard.

The GNIS Codes ...

The current system of identification is called the Geographic Names Information System (GNIS). The following GNIS codes relate to ChampionsGate:

GNIS ID for ChampionsGate: 2013663

GNIS ID for Osceola County: 295748

GNIS ID for Florida: 294478

Misc. Census Codes ...

ChampionsGate is located in Census Region #3 (the South Region) and Division #5 (the South Atlantic Division).

For more information about the various Federal identification codes, please visit our Misc Page for ChampionsGate.

from the 2015 census of ChampionsGate : http://www.realtor.com/local/Championsgate-Village_Four-Corners_FL/lifestyle RjTa0m3Yu10D (talk) 03:04, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The information in your first link says that there is no census information available, and the information from 'realtor.com' is just an estimate. 114 people is out of the 26, 116 people in the Four Corners area; there is already a Wikipedia article on the apparently unincorporated area. There is no way that every community of 114 people has to have a Wikipedia article, and I still think you have failed to show the significance. Perhaps the best we can do is merge it into the article on Four Corners, but at that point someone has to add at least 50 more sections, and I don't think that would be you. Not every golf course deserves an encyclopedia page. // Posted by larsona (Talk) // 03:05, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The census is done every 10 years starting in 1970. Unless there's something I don't know about, there is no such thing as the 2015 U.S. Census // Posted by larsona (Talk) // 03:07, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but this article is staying. Brownville (a section in Old Bridge), Sayrewood South (a section in Old Bridge have articles and they have no census for them either. I am sick of you people deleting everyone's articles. Championsgate has people living there. There was a 2015 census there too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RjTa0m3Yu10D (talk • contribs) 03:23, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Warning: The following contains opinion: The creator's rationalle for keeping the page is almost the same as saying "over 100 people visit my local Walmart everyday... there has to be an article for that!" This is flawed logic. There are over 34k golf courses in the world, 45% of them are in the United States. Has Tiger Woods played there? How about Arnold Palmer? This would be an entirely different discussion if they have, but it would also be an entirely different article. The article itself fails to mention why it's notable, and the article creator can't produce any other reason than "people live there." Delete is my vote. // Posted by larsona (Talk) // 03:25, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernston,_New_Jersey One last try, Ernston New Jersey is a NEIGHBORHOOD and it has an article, it past many smell tests to get where it is ,what makes Ernston more notable than Championsgate. Maybe consider merging Championsgate into Four Corners article?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RjTa0m3Yu10D (talk • contribs) 03:27, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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