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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedily deleted as non-notable spamcruftivertisment crystalballism. (aeropagitica) 22:13, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chimpy Chimpusgus

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Chimpy Chimpusgus (discussion|history|protect|delete|undelete|logs|links)

Characters from an amateur unpublished series yet to be released on Google videoMySpace. The bundle nomination also includes other characters: CoCo Nuts, Zileus Chimpusgus, Marcus Nuts, Boris P. Nuts, Junior Chimpusgus, Mr. Harley Davidson, as well as the main article about the series, Ape Hotel, all recently created by the same user. Prods deleted by author. --Nehwyn 11:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong Keep - Ape Hotel will not simply be a Google video show. It will be something people can actually download (in low quality) and buy on DVD. It won't just be some goofy thing you find on You Tube. Also profits from the show will be partially split between GrASP and WSPA. It will also eventually be on tv. TheChimpanator 12:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • NB - The above comment is from the author of the articles in question. --Nehwyn 13:16, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • If you want to make an argument for keeping that holds water, TheChimpanator, cite sources to demonstrate that you are summarizing the existing knowledge about something that has already been documented, and to demonstrate that you are not, as it appears from both the articles and your rationale given above, mis-using Wikipedia as a publisher of first instance, as a free web host, and as an advertising billboard for primary source, firsthand, never-before-published documentation about something that you yourself created and have not yet even published. Wikipedia is not a publisher of first instance, not a free web host, nor an advertising billboard. Per our Wikipedia:No original research policy it is not for documenting the previously undocumented. The places for that are books, journal articles, or your own web site. Uncle G 13:25, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Uncle G, The information I have uploaded to these pages is simply an expanded version of information provided on their official site. Any other information comews from conversations with people involved and the episodes shown at Box Hill TAFE. TheChimpanator 13:31, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • So... no reliable sources at all? --Nehwyn 13:33, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
          • Nehwyn you seem to have something strongly against these articles. Do they offend you in some way? I'd have thought official website would be up there with straight from the horses mouth but there you go. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheChimpanator (talk • contribs)
            • No, the articles have not been nominated due to their offensive nature (they have none), but rather on the basis of lack of verifiability and reliable sources, as well as the fact that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. I can see you're a newcomer editor; don't be discouraged by a deletion nomination. Read the guidelines and policies linked in this debate and try and fulfill them so the articles meet Wikipedia quality criteria. If you do, they will most likely be kept. --Nehwyn 13:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • Anyone can create a web site and publish all sorts of things on it. That doesn't make what they publish true. (Remember the lesson of Jamie Kane.) This "official web site" is a MySpace page. When creating Wikipedia articles, don't use sources where you are just taking the creator's/author's/subject's own sole word for things. Use sources where other people, independent of the subject, and with names and good reputations, have checked facts. Uncle G 14:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete all. Vanispamcruftisement. Note the will be in the author's pleas ablove. -- RHaworth 13:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete all... per "yet to be released on Google video". Ugh. It doesn't get any less notable than that. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 13:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Delete all - If this is deleted, i have noticed alot of new pages created today relating to this article. Chris Kreider 13:30, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Please, list them here! I cannot find any more than those already listed in the nomination. --Nehwyn 13:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Unless someone else is creating them then I don't think there are any more. I stopped making them after I kept getting this will be deleted warnings, now I'm just trying to save what I've already done but it appears no one else sees this as worthy. Again I say this is a real show that will be on real tv, maybe only in Australia but I know the people behind it, they're going to get it out there no matter what. They're just dedicated to the cause. It's a charity show and it means a lot to a lot of people...correction, there is one more page. Mr. Harley Davidson. TheChimpanator 13:38, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • You're right on that one, I had put the AfD notice on it, but then forgot to mention it here among the others (corrected now). As for the rest of your remark... again, encyclopaedias are not for speculations and projects about the future; you can repeat that the series is going to be on TV as many times as you like, but please keep in mind that you need to quote reliable sources that it is indeed scheduled for TV (even just in Australia) if you want the articles kept. --Nehwyn 13:51, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok so as the shows isn't technically out there yet and thus there is nothing I can do to save the articles, I will delete them myself and repost them when the series has offically debut on actual television, not TAFE tv or internet. Sorry if this has pissed anyone off. TheChimpanator 14:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well..um...having said that I don't actually know how to delete them so you'll have to do it i guess. It would have been great to just leave it but until the show is on tv there is nothing else I can do.TheChimpanator 14:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry, admins will take care of the actual deletion. (Any admins reading this, please consider WP:SNOW early AfD closure.) Please, don't be discouraged by this; I'm sure you'll find other subjects where your contributions can adhere to Wikipedia standards! =) --Nehwyn 14:13, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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