Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Madden

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The result was keep. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:32, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Madden

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He appears to fail to fail to WP:GNG per only a few routine sources. He seems to pass the bare minimum of WP:NHOCKEY with a first team all star selection for the ECHL but that assumes notability, it is not automatic. Maybe someone else can find a secondary independent source to back up a WP:GNG claim? Yosemiter (talk) 08:25, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete a non-notable hockey player.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:29, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 23:35, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Meets NHOCKEY and has received some coverage, for example [1], [2], [3], [4]. The latter is admittedly local and pretty minor, but the others bring him at least to the border of GNG, so I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Rlendog (talk) 16:17, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Rlendog's sources, and the fact that he actually meets WP:NHOCKEY, anyways. Ejgreen77 (talk) 10:55, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Lepricavark, Yosemiter What evidence is there that he meats WP:NHOCKEY? Is it just your opinion or are there facts to back it up? These discussions are not a vote; without any valid reason your vote is meaningless, it's just your opinion. Notability is not an editors popularity contest! If Madden does meet WP:NHOCKEY, please let us know why you assert that he does.Jacona (talk) 12:47, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@JaconaFrere: Per Elite Prospects, he was an ECHL First Team in 2004–05 which meets NHOCKEY #4 (the bare minimum as I said). This usually means there are articles about him but does not mean that he automatically passes GNG. The ESPN and Canoe articles from Rlendog though might be secondary enough to not be considered routine. Yosemiter (talk) 13:18, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is true that Madden meets a bare minimum of NHOCKEY, as you explained in the nom. But he also has additional credentials that while falling short of NHOCKEY do not fall far short, unlike many run-of-the-mill AfD subjects. For example, he did not play 90 games in the AHL. But he did play more than 80 (a quick sum from Elite Prospects I think gives me 83). Also, he was the Memorial Cup MVP which is not an award we include in the NHOCKEY criteria but not a trivial award either, and one that may (and in Madden's case did) bring him some coverage. 15:13, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

I have no idea why I was pinged here. All I did was some deletion sorting. I never made any claims or expressed any opinions about the article. Moreover, why didn't you challenge Johnpacklambert's delete !vote, since all he did was make an unsupported claim? On the other hand, Yosemiter explained in the nom why the subject meets WP:NHOCKEY. Did you read any of what was written above? Lepricavark (talk) 14:24, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the subject meets NHOCKEY and enough sources exist to demonstrate notability. Lepricavark (talk) 14:24, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.