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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep but with less than usual prejudice against re-nomination, should new arguments be brought forward. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 14:28, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

County Borough of Southend on Sea (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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The current page was amended to the City of Southend on Sea and there was a prod raised as the page was the same as main Southend Article. The City of Southend does not exist as a governmental district that's the Southend-on-Sea City Council, while the original page was the former local government body that stopped being an entity in 1974. The County Borough had full powers, much like the current Unitary Council has, but lost these when it became Southend-on-Sea Borough Council, even though the boundaries did not change. As such I reverted back to a basic version of original. However should this page exist, or should it be a redirect to the existing Southend-on-Sea City Council page, with the County Borough history added, as currently its a stub. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 12:05, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Communities & Local Government Open data portal,[6] search non metropolitan districts and Chelmsford, the district is called Chelmsford, not City of Chelmsford or Chelmsford City Council. Southend no longer comes under the non metropolitan districts list but under the unitary authority list. So therefore we have contradicting information from government bodies. Therefore whom is correct?Davidstewartharvey (talk) 17:19, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I don't know if some of the discussion here comes across as just absurd, or just very British.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 18:12, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • For the benefit of anyone who might look at closing this discussion but isn't British -- the matter is not absurd but needs context. Southend is a former town that recently became a city, promoted in large part to honour David Amess, Southend's longstanding Member of Parliament who was murdered in his constituency office by a constituent (an event that created quite a media circus here). The article purports to be about part of Southend's recent history. It's likely well documented in local government records and there is little doubt that sources exist. At issue is whether this content is a useful step towards a developed article on Southend's history or whether it should be deleted/draftified to make way for other content. I can see both sides of that, so I won't !vote, but I wouldn't want a foreign closer to come along and reject the discussion as unintelligible.—S Marshall T/C 08:00, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The district gained city status but the settlement still exists. The current district has the same boundaries as the county borough thus this should describe the current unitary district with city status as well as the county borough. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:05, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 19:11, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.