Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Covenant Reformed Presbyterian Church

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The result was redirect to Presbyterianism. No actual sources have been presented by the "keep" side. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:54, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Covenant Reformed Presbyterian Church

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Article about a small splinter group that fails to meet WP: GNG (indeed, it has only four congregations!) Also, the only sources are primary. Difluoroethene (talk) 23:10, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I am in favor of keeping the content of this article. It may be more appropriate that it be included in an article about different Presbyterian Denominations in the United States. There is such a category already, but not a main article as there is with some categories. Sterrettc (talk) 01:55, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No sources have been provided other than citations to the denomination's own web site. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:15, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I would also note that, as suggested by Mark Arsten below, there are few Google hits that are about this denomination. In fact, searches for "Covenant Reformed Presbyterian Church" tend to turn up more references to individual church congregations by this name which are not members of this denomination. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:19, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. — — alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 03:42, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. — — alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 03:42, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of South America-related deletion discussions. — — alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 03:43, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Actually, I think all denominations (rather than churches) are de facto notable. Articles such as this are useful to the encyclopedia for people wishing to navigate through the maze that is Presbyterianism. Category:Presbyterian denominations and List of Presbyterian denominations in Australia illustrate the sort of thing I mean. Size doesn't matter of course. StAnselm (talk) 08:42, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Although denominations are normally notable, typically there are independent sources that discuss those denominations. Does this denomination show up in reference books that cover Christian denominations, Presbyterianism, or other topics? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:32, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep -- This is a denomination not a single congregation. Problems over the lack of WP:RS should be dealt with by tagging for independent sources to be provided, not by deletion. Many articles still need better sourcing, but we do not automatically delete them. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:34, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I just looked through Google News Archive and Google Books and I couldn't find anything about this group. There are other churches with the same name, I think, so searching is a bit tricky. At the moment though, since we need secondary sources to develop a valid encyclopedia article, I think deletion is best. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:02, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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