Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David William Parry

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Nakon 01:20, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

David William Parry

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I've been trying to find useful sources for this article for the last few days, but a Google search is picking up next to nothing, aside from the Wikipedia article and Amazon listings. The article itself needs work, as it currently just reads as a list of YouTube and Facebook pages. I'm not convinced this person's notable enough for inclusion. Microchip08 (talk) 15:04, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Another user left a comment on the talk page. Microchip08 (talk) 08:56, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So_ahc: The reason for not being able to find recent activity on the page of David W parry's page is that he is an author, and he works with events and projects. Some of the things may create disrepute. But when being a friend to the house of lords and credited dramaturg, it should be enough to re-consider. the fact is that such pages are invaluable tools for authors artis and the like no matter the recent activity on iinternet. So_ahc so_ahc he also was falsly accused of neo fascism so ahc

My name is David William Parry. I am a Pagan priest, author and dramature. Astonishingly, as an active Libertarian,I have been accused on google of neo-fasciam by UK Indymedia (http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2013/04/508114.html) and Circle Ansuz (https://circleansuz.wordpress.com/2013/04/03/david-parry-neo-fascist/), along with the highly disreputable Searchlight Magazine. As someone active in politics, these slurs are to be expected. However,my work as a devout Pagan is beyond reproach. I am listed on the Fellowship of Independent Celebrants website ( http://www.foic.org.uk/home/celebrant-information?mid=719&pcp=false) as a Godhi. In fact, I am this country's first officially recognised Heathen priest. Additional links can be provided, but I am not sure how many are required? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.208.162 (talk) 19:59, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David, and welcome to Wikipedia! Ideally, articles on Wikipedia—and especially biographies—should have at least two reliable, independent sources (see Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources). The sources don't have to be online, but sometimes it helps. These links aren't really what we look for (we have a policy discouraging self-published sources). Have you been written about in any well known third-party sources, such as a newspaper? If this deletion request succeeds—and I hope we can find some sources so that it doesn't—don't worry. Microchip08 (talk) 20:35, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like someone has a bit of green mist!, the person who has created this deletion request is not really asking for any specific but just criticising, I think this is trolling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tunes666 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear editor, please read my sources again. I am most certainly not criticizing myself in UK Indymedia, or for that matter in the publication by Circle Ansuz. Also, the Fellowship (FOIC) is an organization run by Mr. Able with government sponsorship. How these links can be considered self-publishing is quite beyond me. Indeed, while I agree with you that my entry needs a better design (I did not create this page myself), and I suffer from being a part of that generation who had a full life before the advent of the internet, the TV and Media section is clearly not a series of listings from facebook and youtube. What is more, my publishers can confirm all of these details in other sections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.208.162 (talk) 20:58, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also, dear editor, you will see a number on interviews by both magazines and the media in that specific section. Sadly, due to my lack of internet skills, I do not always tell have links to give my secretary about these developemnts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.208.162 (talk) 21:08, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

David Parry can also be found in these links from the Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jul/10/visa-immigration-boycott-poet), the Searchlight Magazine (http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/archive/holocaust-denying-bishop-speaks-at-iona-london-forum-meeting), (http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/archive/life-continues-in-far-right-club-land) and the Alternate Religions Educational Network (http://www.aren.org/newsletter/2015-ostara/index.html#p=44) . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Posen607 (talk • contribs) 21:25, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear editor, this is David Parry and I need to stress (for the record) I am a Quaker-Pagan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.208.162 (talk) 08:12, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Editor - I fail to see how D Parry cannot be considered noteworthy enough to have a wikipage- and wonder greatly at the reasons anyone could have for making such a claim - an author, a poet, a theatre director, a guest speaker at the House Of Lords on numerous occasions where he has even produced a play , a well known Quaker-Pagan, and a member of the Foundation for International Collaboration , I would have thought he was exactly the sort of person to be included.

D W Storer Autor & Poet — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.96.54 (talk) 09:14, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Editor, this is David Parry with extra external links Overseas artists boycott Britain in protest at visa clampdown Holocaust-denying Bishop speaks at Iona London Forum meeting {http://f-i-c.org/index.php5?&p=0201000001] Life continues in far right club land Guestspot - David Parry - Authout, Poet, Pagan, Dramaturge Deconstructing Mount Athos: An Image of the Sacred in English Literature- Preface by Bernard Hoose Deconstructing Mount Athos: An Image of the Sacred in English Literature Reviews About THA Talks Pagan events in and near London — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.208.162 (talk) 20:28, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I accepted this article and request to keep it as there are a number of independent substantial writings on the person and their work amoungst all the dead links and self-published material linked. so WP:GNG is met. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:04, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete low level writer and politician without any clear impact.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:49, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - the various sources (in "media" and "references") are sufficient to establish notability, but damn David you aren't doing yourself any favors with the endless tldr blocks of text in this AfD. Take a step back and let others decided this.

As a side note, I see no evidence the subject is ever referred to by his middle name in reliable sources - the article should be renamed David Parry (poet) after the AfD closes, if the article survives. --ThaddeusB (talk) 14:58, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:03, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 00:50, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Although Parry has published 2 books with a small publisher of "occult" works, I am not seeing secondary coverage discussing or reviewing these books. The "reviews" section, for example, links to non-notable individuals "reviewing" his book on Amazon.com and personal blogs. Nor so I see much in the way of secondary sources about Parry. Citation #1, in the lede, for example, is the write-up about Parry on the website promoting his self-published book. Citations # 2 - 6 are from Azerbaijan Today, a publication with a worse-sourced Wikipedia page than Parry has. According to the interview in Azerbaijan Today (which may or may not be a RS), Parry is writing a book on Azerbaijani poet Mirza Fatali Akhundov who Parry states is "unknown" in the West, although he has a Wikipedia page. What troubles me is that Parry gives no indication of knowing Azeri,so this cannot be a scholarly work, nor, since it is not yet written, does it contribute much to notability. Overall, the Azeri sources have the look of an underfunded culture officer in an underfunded diplomatic delegation from a remote country getting all excited that a British poseur who has heard of his country. Citations #s 7 , 8 are a broken links, but both cite Gruntlers, an obscure literary circle Parry claims to have founded (or co-founded). # 9 cites one of his 2 un-reviewed, un-notable Mandreke books, # 10 cites wthe same Parry self-published, non-notable book as # 1. We are left with Azerbajian Today, and , really, it's not enough.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:11, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.