Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dennis D'Arcy

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The result was keep‎. Malinaccier (talk) 14:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dennis D'Arcy

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Fails GNG. An newspapers.com search found no SIGCOV. This Dennis D'Arcy isn't to be confused with the one that died in a car accident in 1963 or the non league footballer for Watton. Dougal18 (talk) 13:12, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Scotland. Shellwood (talk) 13:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 19:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Montrose F.C.#Other notable players where he is mentioned as a 'Hall of Fame' inductee. Giant Snowman 19:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dougal18 and GiantSnowman: The British Newspaper Archive seems to bring up some coverage, e.g. [1] [2] [3]. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:47, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have access, what do the sources say, is it significant enough in your view? Giant Snowman 20:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot to check the BNA. I don't have access so I can't read the sources, just the headlines.Dougal18 (talk) 08:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source #1 (1980) is about ~400 words on him being hired as a coach. It says, excluding some quotes from D'Arcy and content on the club rather than him (note that spelling may not be perfect):
FORMER Montrose and Arbroath centre half Dennis D’Arcy last night became the new player-coach Peterhead. The powerful pivot has accepted the club's terms ... Dennis spent 10 seasons with Montrose and had a three-month spell at Qayfield and there has been a rush for his services, with Elgin City and Clach being unsuccessful. D'Arcy takes over from team manager Colin Grant, who has stepped down to become the club's first commercial manager. Dennis should be personality player for the Recreation Park side, though he would not be drawn on where he would play. With big John Slevwright and former schoolboy international James Taylor having held down the central defensive bertha for the past three seasonk, there could be some rearguard reshuffle on the cards, but the new boss has an open mind. Peterhead chairman Robbie Warrender raid last night: "Dennis made a highly favourable Impression on our committee and we feel «fe have fixed up the right type of man get us back among the honoura. “We are meeting Dennis again next week to discuss certain details of how things will be run, but after going through a great many names, we are happy with our choice of player-coach." ... Peterhead will have big Charlie Barbour, signed from Arbroath, leading the attack next season and if new boas D’Arcy can build an attack round Barbour, then Buchan hopes will be high. Dennis will be hoping he Is as successful in North soccer as was his brother, Brian D’Arcy, who won two Highland League championship medals with Inverness Thistle in the early 7ds.

Source #2 (1983) is about him returning to Montrose. It states:
Dennis D’Arcy, one of the most popular players ever to wear a Montrose F.C. shirt, last Wednesday took over as manager of the club, thirteen days after the shock resignation of Steve Murray. Dennis was a Montrose player for almost 11 years. He has maintained friendly links with the club and has been a regular visitor since he was given a surprise free transfer in 1980. During his eleven years at the club as a player D'Arcy was involved in Montrose F.C.’s most successful era. They finished third in the old second division in 1974- 75, the last season before reconstruction then the following season finished third in the new Division One. Their cup exploits too, put the club in the limelight. In 1975 they reached the Eeaguc Cup semi-final beating Hibs along the way before losing to Rangers. In the Scottish Cup they came within seconds of beating Hearts before finally losing after two replags. n leaving Montrose D’Arcy played with Arbroath for a short spell, followed this with a period as playermanager at Peterhead, then most recently played with Deveronvale. The new manager takes over at a time when the club’s fortunes are at their lowest for many years. They lie third bottom of the league and suffered a Scottish Cup defeat at the hands of grora Rangers. D’Arcy aims to recapture the spirit of the successful sides of the 1970’s and the directors have promised him their full support. He is under no illusions about the task which lies ahead or the amount of hard work required, but is calling on the players to back him 1n his efforts. A small amount of cash could be made available to the new boss but Montrose will not be embarking on any spending sprees and every member of staff will be given the chance to prove that they have a part to play.

Source #3 (1973) is about him being 'confident' of victory in the Scottish cup. Content includes:
The tie will provide one of the brightest Montrose prospects, Aberdonian Dennis D'Arcy, a 21-year-old former schoolboy international centre half, with his toughest test yet for his immediate opponent is John Duncan, clear leader in the Scottish First Division ... D'Arcy, whose brother Brian plays for Inverness Thistle, has made steady improvement this season and he's not losing sleep over his impending clash with Duncan ... A former pupil of Aberdeen Grammar School, D'Arcy attracted the attention of Everyton, Charlton, Leicester and Bristol Rovers during his spell with Walker Road Youth Club. He is still young enough to revive English interest in his future and a good display against Duncan could do the trick.

@Dougal18 and GiantSnowman: BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:34, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These look OK to me, I'm inclined to keep if the article can be updated accordingly with this info/sourcing? Giant Snowman 16:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Those are just routine match previews and contract signings. Dougal18 (talk) 09:08, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lean towards Keep Over 300 Scottish football league games played, there are some sources about to show basic GNG, article could do with a cleanup for sure, but the negation is not a reason for deletion. Govvy (talk) 18:14, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The sources provided by BeanieFan11 appear to be enough to meet WP:NBASIC as they go beyond trivial coverage. Let'srun (talk) 22:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the consensus is against keeping, redirect to Montrose F.C.#Other notable players as a WP:ATD. Let'srun (talk) 22:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Montrose F.C.#Other notable players. Doesn't pass WP:FOOTYN since he played for semi-professional teams. By the way, the article says he was "turning professional", although this is not true, apparently. I'm not sure that the archived articles listed above meet WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 17:15, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the BNA sources above appear to establish notability (newspapers.com is poor for European sources). But there are other non-BNA sources accessible to all. A 2017 piece in the Sunday Mail (Scotland) that's brief, but establishes long-term coverage - ProQuest 1932505681. Nfitz (talk) 17:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of sentences a decade is not "long term coverage". That source is not sigcov. Dougal18 (talk) 08:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - @GiantSnowman:, Per above. Clearly was significant figure in Scottish football with offline sources. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 08:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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