Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dheeraj Bakliwal
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 18:35, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
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Mayor of Durg which is not considered as prominent metropolitan city. Even the sources are not able to pass the are enough for passing him WP:GNG, WP:NPOL or other criteria. S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 09:55, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 09:55, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 09:55, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - He is an elected mayor and holds a major public post, so passes WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. "
Durg which is not considered as prominent metropolitan city
" is not a valid argument and reeks of POV. Durg is a big city with 200K residents as per census 2011 [1]. There are Indian politician articles from far smaller and obscure towns and villages, not to mention many are still stubs. All the sources used are reliable, 1st one is from Rajasthan Patrika, 2nd from The Times of India, 3rd from Dainik Bhaskar - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:07, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Note to closing admin: Fylindfotberserk (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 10:25, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- Comment as per WP:POLOUTCOMES I can not agree with @Fylindfotberserk:'s word. As per WP:POLOUTCOMES X is the mayor of Y city will not make him notable.S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 11:11, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- You are changing your words here. If I'm correct, your initial comment "
Mayor of Durg which is not considered as prominent metropolitan city
" meant "Bakliwal is not notable because Durg is not notable". Now you mean "Just because Bakliwal is the Mayor of Durg, doesn't make him notable". Kinda confusing whether you are considering Durg notable or not. As for the article itslef, there is always room to expand it in the future. - According to WP:POLOUTCOMES, "
Mayors: Mayors of cities of at least regional prominence have usually survived AFD, although the article should say more than just "Jane Doe is the mayor of Cityville".... This criterion has not generally been as restrictive as the criterion for city councillors"
. Now Durg is a city of "regional prominence" with 200K plus inhabitants. Point is whether a guideline like WP:POLOUTCOMES, which is more relevant to cities and town of US state, Canadian province, Japanese prefecture, etc, applies to Indian cities. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:35, 8 February 2020 (UTC)- I agree I have said both. But, please take a look on AfD of Vijaya Rahatkar who was mayor of Aurangabad did not survive via AfD. Aurangabad has more population than Durg and even considered as more prominent than Durg. So, @Fylindfotberserk:'s logic doesn't satisfy that the article passes WP:GNG or WP:NPOL.S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 11:44, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- You are changing your words here. If I'm correct, your initial comment "
- Comment Were there only 60 votes in the election this guy ran for this office? If that is true I strongly suspect he is very non-notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:17, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
- Johnpacklambert, due to indirect election through the elected members of a Municipal Corporation. That said, I don't think just being a mayor of a small city alone qualifies WP:NPOL. Tayi Arajakate (talk) 22:27, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- Well the population is 268,279. Is the mayor of the corporation the person who runs the city operations or are they a figure head. In my own area we have an article on James Fouts mayor of Warren, Michigan but not on Michael Taylor of Sterling Heights, Michigan in large part because of the difference between an administrator mayor and a figure head mayor. Fouts is controversial in other ways, he tussells with the King of Macomb County, I mean County Executive.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:43, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:24, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:24, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:MILL. If he was elected by "40 out of 60 votes", it means that he's elected by a city council, not the electorate. While Durg is a large city, by India standards, it's relatively small. Bearian (talk) 16:51, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 15:47, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 15:47, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Clearly fails WP:Politician. Subject is just a regional leader.GargAvinash (talk) 18:40, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as suggested by Bearian. Clearly fails SIGCOV and NPOL.KartikeyaS343 (talk) 16:15, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
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