Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ducky Tie
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The result was keep. Sandstein 15:28, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
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Redirect declined because of one review, but I don't think that's enough to meet WP:NEPISODE. "An episode of a television series is not inherently notable simply because it has aired.... A standalone episode article should be expected to be able to meet WP:GNG on its own; most especially, the episode itself, apart from its series, should have more than a passing mention in reliable source coverage." The editor who undid the redirect failed to prove how one review is enough to pass WP:GNG, and is claiming that I am "rushing around replacing things with redirects". Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:27, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:27, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Comment It's not clear what you are asking for User:TenPoundHammer. You've nominated for deletion, but you seem to be arguing for redirect. Can you clarify? Also, you tried to redirect this to List of How I Met Your Mother episodes. Wouldn't a much better redirect be to How_I_Met_Your_Mother_(season_7)#ep139? Nfitz (talk) 04:20, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm looking for deletion or redirection to the season. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:22, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Why redirect to List of How I Met Your Mother episodes instead of How_I_Met_Your_Mother_(season_7)#ep139? Nfitz (talk) 04:32, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Because I keep forgetting that indvidiual-season articles are a thing. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 14:38, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Why redirect to List of How I Met Your Mother episodes instead of How_I_Met_Your_Mother_(season_7)#ep139? Nfitz (talk) 04:32, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm looking for deletion or redirection to the season. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:22, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep 10.556 million people watched it so of course it got reviews in places. Vulture magazine Why ‘How I Met Your Mother’s’ ‘Ducky Tie’ Was the Best Sitcom Episode of the Season has significant coverage. Clicking the Google news search shows it as the second result, right behind the A. V. Club review already mentioned in the article [1]. And rushing around replacing so many articles with redirects instead of doing any basic WP:BEFORE is irritating. Other things you have done I have reverted since they had two or more reviews in them, you just not noticing, rushing through so quickly such as [2]. You just go through so many articles each day, sending them to AFD, prodding them, or replacing them with a redirect, no one has time to sort through them all. Dream Focus 04:23, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- https://www.ign.com/articles/2011/09/27/how-i-met-your-mother-the-ducky-tie-review https://www.pastemagazine.com/tv/how-i-met-your-mother-review-the-ducky-tie-episode/ are easy to find with a Google search for "ducky tie" and the word "review". Dream Focus 04:25, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Also, WP:NEPISODE says that reviews alone aren't sufficient; there has to be coverage of the episode's casting, writing, or other elements of it being made too. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 14:46, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- That's an essay, so it doesn't matter what it said. We go by the WP:NOTABILITY guidelines, which have clearly been met. Dream Focus 17:49, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Also, WP:NEPISODE says that reviews alone aren't sufficient; there has to be coverage of the episode's casting, writing, or other elements of it being made too. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 14:46, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- WP:BIGNUMBER is not a valid argument. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 14:28, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- I did not make that argument, just pointed out with that many viewers of course it got reviewed. Dream Focus 18:07, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- https://www.ign.com/articles/2011/09/27/how-i-met-your-mother-the-ducky-tie-review https://www.pastemagazine.com/tv/how-i-met-your-mother-review-the-ducky-tie-episode/ are easy to find with a Google search for "ducky tie" and the word "review". Dream Focus 04:25, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep – In addition to the sources listed above, there's a review by Alan Sepinwall that hasn't been mentioned. Five sources (Vulture, IGN, The A.V. Club, Paste, and this new review) is clearly sufficient to establish notability. RunningTiger123 (talk) 15:25, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep – Meets WP:GNG. WP:NEPISODE is an opinion essay. Sources include AV Club, Vulture, IGN, Paste, Uproxx. North America1000 09:10, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
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