Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Enes Batur

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. –Darkwind (talk) 01:06, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Enes Batur

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This article is basically a WP:COATRACK for a not very significant spat. The subject himself is flagged as an actor but with no significant roles, aYouTuber but with no evidence of significant coverage, anbd a blogger but with no evidence of any reach or significance. Two "awards" are listed, they are not notable (the "golden palm" is not the palme d'Or). Overall this is a BLP1E fail - even the 1E is not much. Guy (help!) 07:44, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, out of the two awards that you mentioned at least one is notable. The Golden Butterfly Awards is given by Hürriyet and takes both people’s votes and judges’ opinions into consideration, thus making it an important award ceremony in Turkey. The fact that national newspapers such as Milliyet and Habertürk and news agencies such as İhlas News Agency have articles on him makes him even more notable. And the article itself is balanced in the way it approaches the topic, as it also discusses allegations of copyright violations by him which were reported in the Turkish media. I wish you had done some research on the subject before going on with the nomination. Keivan.f^Talk 07:57, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keivan.f, the voting system doesn't make the award notable. Popular <> notable, see WP:GNG. Guy (help!) 11:28, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously it doesn't. We have tons of awards that use this system, but this ceremony appears to be among the most notable ones in his country. And, the fact that national newspapers have covered his biography or published news about him makes him somewhat notable. Keivan.f^Talk 19:54, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 10:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 10:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 10:47, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete a non-notable individual.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:39, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom Spiderone 13:34, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Consensus at DRV, where new sources were brought forward, was to relist this discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:42, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He is a Turkish YouTuber and an actor. Also there is a version of his article on Turkish Wikipedia. If he is not notable, then we have to delete Berkcan Güven. Baran Ahmet 06:36, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a source for Wikipedia, it is the outside sources that matter. Also, another subject's notability doesn't and shouldn't influence the results of this discussion. Your argument should be based on his popularity in his home country. Keivan.f^Talk 06:42, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok @Keivan.f:, but also there are lot of sources on web Baran Ahmet 06:48, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Baran Ahmet: That's true. A deletion review for this article took place about a week ago and as a result of that the deletion discussion was reopened and the article was restored. The article already has some reliable sources listed, and is in better condition compared to what it was before. It will probably be kept this time. Keivan.f^Talk 06:51, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The article has been improved by me and divided into subsections. There were reliable sources in the body of the article before its initial deletion and now I have added a few more, all of which can be viewed by anyone who might be interested. Based on the nature of the sources introduced and considering his popularity and the statistics of his YouTube channel, I think the article can be kept. Keivan.f^Talk 06:44, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep can pass GNG, well known in Turkey, he is most famous youtuber in turkey who have more than 10 million subscriber, actually he is MrBeast of Turkey. Feloniii (talk) 08:36, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.